EA takes out $1 billion loan for Take-Two acquisition
Electronic Arts has received commitments for a $1 billion loan from various financial institutions toward its acquisition of Take-Two. The company has up until January 9, 2009 to tap the funds in its $2 billion hostile takeover and there's been no update on the deal since Take-Two's last rejection.
GamePolitics spoke with Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter who says that after the Pandemic/BioWare acquisition that EA is a little strapped for cash. He believes the timing of this loan isn't "particularly unusual" and it could be possible that EA might make a higher bid for Take-Two.
GamePolitics spoke with Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter who says that after the Pandemic/BioWare acquisition that EA is a little strapped for cash. He believes the timing of this loan isn't "particularly unusual" and it could be possible that EA might make a higher bid for Take-Two.






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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
joe @ May 10th 2008 3:05PM
I really hope this takeover doesn't happen.
Bleu @ May 10th 2008 9:02PM
I pray it doesn't happen. LEAVE TAKE TWO ALONE E FUCKIN A. WHY DONT YOU GUYS JUST GOO AWAY.
Huey2k2 @ May 10th 2008 3:04PM
Fuck EA.
Esat Dedezade @ May 10th 2008 3:06PM
I concur with your view.
Vol @ May 10th 2008 3:13PM
Exactly.. don't fall into EA's business model of mediocrity and rehashing of old product on a yearly basis with minimum investment. When is the last time EA produced a hit on the scale of Halo, Call of Duty, Uncharted, Bioshock, Gears of War, etc...
Haggard @ May 10th 2008 3:43PM
This has got me really down - it's pretty much confirmation that the takeover will definitely happen.
Coming soon to our lineup: The Sims 2: BioShock fashion stuff!
And the hotly anticipated Grand Theft Crysis!
Night Elve @ May 10th 2008 4:37PM
I agree. Fuck EA!
Maybe I'm a Sony Fan but the only video game company I really dislike and hate is EA.
So yeah fuck EA!
ThePremierAssassin @ May 10th 2008 5:39PM
EA is clearly not getting the message though...
I never thought I could hate someone as much as I hate sony and the sony fanboys...
el serpiente @ May 11th 2008 1:33AM
I still hate you more than EA, prematureAss.
bigsofty @ May 11th 2008 5:27AM
High risk amounts of money, could break em if anything goes wrong... with luck
Kye - Joystiq Greybeard @ May 11th 2008 5:57AM
We can try writing to EA, calmly and rationally, explaining why we, their paychecks, do not want this to happen.
Failing that, spam.
Lord Bowser @ May 11th 2008 6:15AM
I hope EA Fifaise the GTA series.
Babel @ May 11th 2008 5:12PM
I hope YOU fall down a well.
Zach @ May 10th 2008 3:09PM
When all else fails, throw money at 'em! This is worse than the Yahoo! buyout by Microsoft.
Zach @ May 10th 2008 3:11PM
JOYSTIQ STAFF
I find more and more often when trying to rank comments up ie: joe's Im treated with a black screen. Anyone else having the same prob?
Mr Khan @ May 10th 2008 3:17PM
It took me a while to figure this out, why sometimes i got an advertisement and others i just got a black screen, but you have to scroll all the way to the top of the page when you get the black screen. A skip advertisement button can be found there
However, i still disapprove. I expect such irritating page ads from IGN, not from y'all
Sora267 @ May 10th 2008 3:19PM
Eh, if you're using Firefox, get NoScript + Adblock Plus, I don't get any ads using those.
SKI @ May 10th 2008 7:02PM
The skip ad button does NOTHING for me, the ad still plays. WTF!
Vol @ May 10th 2008 3:13PM
Yes, black screens are occuring all the time with me too.
John McPoop @ May 10th 2008 3:27PM
same here ... I thought it was just me ... I just reload the main page
voodoo_craig @ May 10th 2008 3:46PM
Yeah, come on guys, can you at least pretend you're trying to address ther issue of these adverts. I wouldn't mind (we all need to support the site) but they keep appearing when I vote comments up or down, which means I'm starting to get put off doing it cos it happens so often.
Ted @ May 11th 2008 7:09AM
Yeah, that and there is also the problem that when you click on the link in the email you're sent when someone replies to your comment, it doesn't take you to the right page.
ApolloIV @ May 10th 2008 3:15PM
You are out of your mind if you are a Take Two shareholder and sell your stock.
Mr Khan @ May 10th 2008 3:20PM
They'll come down off the GTAIV high by the start of 2009, and unless they lean on Rockstar to shove something else out the door, TakeTwo will, unless they work hard to reorganize between now and then, return to their financial instability
Take Two's got a window of stockholder satisfaction to try to secure future growth and security that is not dependent on one franchise, they had best make use of it
voodoo_craig @ May 10th 2008 3:25PM
I agree with Mr Khan, GTA IV has been and gone and the T2 share price hasn't really moved, it was already artificially high thanks to the anticipation of GTA IV.
If I had stock in T2 I'd seel right away, the price isn't going to go up any further and they don't have anythign on the horizon big enough to warrant hanging on. Bioshock 2 is a long way off, their sports brand isn't too strong sales wise and I don't think they would be worth even half the price EA are offering if it wasn't for Rockstar North.
Although I would hate for this to go ahead, no way would EA ever give R*N 4 years to create a game.
John McPoop @ May 10th 2008 3:31PM
I would not sell the stock ... There is a Bioshock movie in the works, LA Noire and another unnamed PS3 exclusive project ... Its a very steady brand and it will continue to grow ... Wait until the official NPD numbers come out for GTA IV
Mr Khan @ May 10th 2008 3:34PM
I agree, TakeTwo's holdings are a very steady brand, but they just can't get their financial shit together, and that's all the investors care about in the end
voodoo_craig @ May 10th 2008 3:44PM
Ok John, IF the Bioshock movie is made and is successful, let's say it'll take about $300 million at the box office (which is generous), how much do you think T2 will see of that? You're probably looking at less than $20 million which isn't a lot of money when you look at the $2 billion being offered.
We know next to nothing about LA Noire and this 'un-named PS3 exclusive' and you can't forecast for new IPs so far from completion.
Noshino @ May 10th 2008 4:25PM
voodoo,
" let's say it'll take about $300 million at the box office (which is generous)"
http://www.imdb.com/boxoffice/alltimegross?region=world-wide
you probably mean US Box Office, Worlwide Im pretty sure it would make much more than that
"how much do you think T2 will see of that? You're probably looking at less than $20 million which isn't a lot of money when you look at the $2 billion being offered."
wow, they would be looking at more far more than 20 million, that is if they play their cards well.
Its not only that, movies are a HUGE advertising business, with a movie comes the rest of the memorabilia, including DVDs, and so on...not only that, but a Bioshock movie would also be a huge advertisement for Bioshock 2...
Look, shareholders are doing well by not selling their T2 stock, they have all the necessary cards, they just need to play them well, but yah, this also means that if they make one wrong move with their key franchises (bad movie or bad game), they will most likely be fucked.
embassy @ May 10th 2008 5:06PM
noshino,
there's a reason the movie business is in libo right now, cuz films dont make money. the net profit made from a film, even a blockbuster one, isn't enough to recoup losses made on all the other unsuccessful movies funded by a major studio.
so a bioshock movie, which im sorry to inform you, is a "hardcore" gamers' game. isn't gonna have any major affect on T2 stock prices. even with ancillary sales, none of that matters.
also, as much as i love my 2k sports series, they dont sell enough to make a dent either.
that's my biggest fear of the takeover..EA just flat-out shutting down thier sports game competition.
i utterly refuse to play NBA live. the buggiest sports game on the planet.
embassy @ May 10th 2008 5:07PM
limbo*
Gnawkz @ May 10th 2008 10:41PM
The movie license is pure profit. Lets do some math for everyone.
http://www.forbes.com/technology/2006/12/19/ps3-xbox360-costs-tech-cx_rr_game06_1219expensivegames.html
Based on Forbes calculation for revenue breakup of who gets what from a game ... the publisher and distributer gets 1.5% or for Take 2, 3% since they are both.
So a $60 game would make Take 2 $1.80 per game sold.
If the BioShock Movie license was sold for $10 Million + 10% Gross Revenue of movie (Halo Movie Deal), then we are looking at the equivalent of 5.5 Million games shipped ...
If BioShock Movie was $25 Million with no royalty payments, then that is equivalent of ~14 Million units shipped.
This is pure money. This is more than EA has made for the last 3 quarters. This is worth a lot since it is pure money, and if BioShock does well, then the sequel is gonna cost a lot more.
embassy @ May 10th 2008 10:50PM
gnawkz, it is no where near that simple.
first off it cost like..20-35 mill to make a top tier game? ( being very conservative), while a blockbuster film costs 180+ mill and the avg film in general is around 60 mill.
that's a *huge* disparity in budget. so even if bioschock makes 200 mill at the boxoffice, if it costs 180 mill to make it the net profit is chump change.
and thats the case with most films and thus why the film industry is in trouble and is financially ass backwards.
John McPoop @ May 11th 2008 12:44AM
Well I still would not sell my stock in T2 ... Interesting point made about Bioshock 2 as well coming out around the Bioshock movie ... Seriously though any fan of games should wish EA never gets T2 ... I know thats not the scope of this particular conversation but then EA will have a monopoly on sports games ... Lets not forget T2 also has visual concepts under its umbrella which makes games like NBA 2k, MLb 2k, Virtua Tennis among others
CitizenGeek @ May 10th 2008 6:54PM
EA are totally monopolizing the videogame market. The EU would never allow this, I reckon the US's competition laws are in need of upgrade.
Benny @ May 10th 2008 3:27PM
First they came for Take Two, and I didn't speak up because I was too busy playing Grand Theft Auto...
Benny @ May 10th 2008 5:11PM
Then they came for Ubisoft, and I didn't speak up because I was still too busy playing Grand Theft Auto...
JakubK666 (Ninja Defence Force) @ May 10th 2008 5:21PM
[+1] but dude, that's not cool.
JakubK666 (Ninja Defence Force) @ May 10th 2008 5:24PM
Then they came for Activision and I didn't speak up because I was busy killing hookers.
JakubK666 (Ninja Defence Force) @ May 10th 2008 5:25PM
Then they came for Blizzard and I didn't speak up because I was running from 3 helicopters and 6 stars.
Benny @ May 10th 2008 5:39PM
Then they came for my wallet, and there was nobody left to speak up.
Well, except Jack Thompson.
Lone Starr @ May 10th 2008 6:18PM
Yes, the Holocaust was the first thing that came to mind when I heard of a potential EA buyout.
Benny @ May 10th 2008 7:54PM
Snap!
treqie @ May 10th 2008 3:29PM
They can't take a no for an answer. :P
The Artist formally known as Jesus @ May 10th 2008 3:32PM
"We have 30 days to raise 2 billion dollars to prevent a takeover. Any ideas how to raise it?"
"How about an all Male carwash?"
"Ok! Let's do it!"
Kujel @ May 10th 2008 4:08PM
Ask chef to whore himself out to all the women in the world.
JakubK666 (Ninja Defence Force) @ May 10th 2008 5:26PM
Let's get Elton John too!
theturtle363 @ May 10th 2008 5:28PM
well you could whore yourself out to a 1000 fat chicks for 50 bucks a piece. of 50 really fat chicks for 1000 bucks a piece!
Mr Khan @ May 10th 2008 6:47PM
what?
fat chicks need love too
MinimumWageNinja @ May 10th 2008 3:40PM
GODDAMMIT. I hate, hate, hate EA.
Can you see the next GTA with nothing but in game advertising rather than the made up advertising? Welcome to the world of EA.