Gears of War 2 gameplay footage debut

Vidikron, I think it depends on what one's purpose is in playing the game. In my opinion--and I don't think I'm alone on this--I didn't play Gears for the story. So I think something that expands on the story of Gears of War but doesn't add a whole lot of new gameplay elements isn't something for me. Sure, one Final Fantasy game may play very similarly to a previous one, but I mainly play Final Fantasy games for their story-telling. Know what I mean? It just depends on how one looks at it, and with the majority of today's games having online playability, popularity is another factor to consider. I might think X is much better than Y, which is itself not a bad game. However, because Y is so much more popular and more people own it, I might be compelled to choose that over X simply because of the greater opportunities to play online. Somehow I got away from sequels and over to games in general, but I think it still applies.

Vegeta, you've been using that same damn If It Ain't Broke don't Fix it statement for the past 3 pages.

Shut up already.

Just because something works doesn't mean that it doesn't have to be improved. If it doesn't get improved, UNLESS there is a massive amount of new levels and a much longer games, it's an expansion pack or an episodic game.

So either GEoW2 needs to have gameplay changes and the number of new weapons being in the 10-20 range, or it's just gonna be an overpriced booster pack.

They may only be videos from one section but if Epic and Cliffy B. wants to star gloating about how badass the game is, they need to try a little harder selling why the sequel is better and why it merits the full 60 dollar price tag.

I agree with you here, tmac. It looks like more of the same old, but that'll do just fine for me. I really couldn't get into the single player at all. Actually, never played more than an hour of single player, played the whole way through with my cousin in co-op when he still lived with me. He's moved to TX since and I can't wait for it to come out for us to blow through it over live.

If you're doing single player and never bothered with live, then by all means rent it, because the 1st one was short, and I'm guessing the 2nd will only be slightly longer if anything.

"Just because something works doesn't mean that it doesn't have to be improved."

If you even read my posts you'd know i comment on this. Most sequels provide improvements to the game, but don't really change the core gameplay. And we've already seen a couple improvements and small additions in the gameplay vid. But it's necessarily the same game. That's how sequels work.

And for god's sakes people. It's a fucking trilogy. Of course the gameplay is going to remain somewhat the same.

I can't say for sure, but they made it known that multiplayer was a last minute addition last time around, so hopefully now knowing how big it's become and going into development from the beginning knowing that multiplayer is the biggest part of the game they will get some of the kinks worked out.

I would have rather not have had multiplayer last time around if that was the case.

I think the humans didn't realise that when they first settled there. The locust just kinda popped up and started killing chumps - a bit like Aliens. So the natural response would be to try and defend yourself - although if the locust can grunt at you in english, surely you can enter reasoned debate with them.

They're evil because they're ugly. Honestly, after all the fantasy and sci-fi stories we've had you haven't figured this one out yourself yet?

You're right, but it still looks like fun.

Course it does, first one was awesome fun.

Markez, don't be an ass. Lord Bowser has never been hateul on this site. He's a huge fanboy, no doubt, but he's never stooped to personally insulting people.

Seriuosly gosh you've never come off as condescending, which I'm sure you convince yourself of when you post 1 paragraph asinine posts. Length does not equal you being any better than Lord Bowser.

Right back your way you fucking hyprocite

Markez: forcing Joystiq conformity since July 24th, 2007.

Silly guttersnipe, silly child. If you wish to address me again, please avoid baseless slander. Lord knows, you and the rest of the NDF love baseless slander.

I don't have a PS3, but the Killzone videos I've seen do look pretty fantastic.

So did the Killzone 1 videos, and we all remember how that turned out.

Well, apparently we don't all remember, hence the fact that there is still somehow hype over KZ2.

No no, recent videos I've seen far surpass any ounce of 'good' I saw in the KZ1 previews.

I don't, nor will I probably ever, own a PS3 but I can still see that a lot of effort is going into making Killzone. The pre-judging and fanboyism is pretty lame.

I think gears 2 looks good as well as Killzone II ... Just because the guy has a different opinion does mean its not valid ... It seems Gears 2 still looks monochromatic and washed out ... Its hard to go down after the first Gears campaign ... Nowhere to go but up as far as I see

Killzone 2 might have stood the test if it had been released at least this year. It's one thing to show off trailers and footage that look cool but if you don't bother releasing the damn thing then it's going to just look dated when it does come up. I don't care how a good a game trailer looks. I only care if it has a realistic delivery date. Are you listening Alan Wake and The Getaway 3?

Gears 2 looks good, Gears 2 is actually going to come out pretty soon. Gears 2 takes the win.

Killzone 2 is entering the realm of vaporware. Gears 3 might actually be unveiled when Guerrilla actually finish.

People who call for bans should be counter-banned. It's a low blow from someone who wants a uniformity of thought. This is the internet: people may have thoughts divergent from the herd.

And for the record, there was no trolling. I stated my opinion, some people disagreed, we exchanged ideas. No trolling, just genuine discussion.

Hey Bowser, I've been checking out this thread for a day or two now and you really are a schmuck. Apparently you don't realize that when people carry themselves like they are so much more sophisticated and intellectual than the people around them they are generally disliked. People who do that are most likely doing it for attention and to compensate for feelings of insecurity.

Your comments on how 'base' a game like GOW is, and how people should rise above liking that kind of game are ludicrous as well. Do you like sex? Ever masturbate? How 'base' is that? But you do it (probably the latter) often. I suppose as Americans people who enjoy football should rise above that kind of entertainment as well.

I consider myself a well rounded and educated person. I own a business, I read, I'm writing a novel, and am a good athlete. I play ice hockey, lift weights and have been studying a martial art and its' corresponding philosophies for about 25 years now. And you know what? When I have an hour or two to play a game solo or online I like a kick ass action game, and Gears is one of the best I've ever played solo or online.

If games like Gears aren't your cup of tea, fine. Don't go around like an elitist ass telling people what the 'right' things are for them to enjoy. If you must sit around smelling your own flatulence please do it in private and spare the rest of us.

"Do you like sex?"

Somehow in Bowser's case, I doubt it.

Rouge is a moron. Move on, there's nothing to see here.