GTA IV has 40% attach rate with new Xbox 360s, says Microsoft

Umm... Pachter could still be right? If 275 000 360s were sold this month as he predicts, all this means is that 40% we sold along with a copy of GTA:IV.

No, it doesn't.

Loki, do you understand numbers?

Only if they're arranged in a fashion that spells '1337'!

Perfectly understand numbers - don't get MS constant dick swinging and the need to put the PS3 down - seems to me they're scared. I couldn't care less, I have the 2 big consoles and enjoy them whatever their flaws are. Give me games - not numbers.

Does the article mention the PS3 AT ALL?

The only people bringing it up are the Sony fanboys.

And by the way... "scared"? It's a little thing called 'competition', and it does you, as a consumer, a few favours.

Loki you have no idea what your talking about do you?

Loki - the quote was "..roughly 40 percent of 360s going out the door had a copy of GTA IV going with them." So the other 60% is 360's sales that don't have a copy of GTA sold with them. They were not talking about the PS3 or attacking it.

When you think about it, who the hell would by a 360 that week and NOT buy gta?? Its strange that that number isn't higher...

And how many PS3's have you sold with a copy of GTAIV along with it?

I haven't sold any personally. I cant speak for the chain as a whole, those numbers aren't available at the store level.

Our store, has historically been an XBOX store, though. I thought the launch of the PS3 would even it out. But, our ps3 base in our town is not there. I don't know why, it is a great system, with a winning media format.

People complain about 360's dying all the time, what about the extremely high failure of ps2 optical drives? Face it, each company has their kinks to work out.

It all boils down to preference, at this point.

You should consider changing your name to Mr. Relevant.

I'm not going to kill you LOL. I'm not excited for MGS4 at all, other than to double my PS3 game collection :) I wouldn't read into the preorders either. I don't preorder until one week to one day before the game ships. I don't hand over my money interest free!

It wouldn't suprise me. It's not going to get COD4, Halo 3 or GTA4 numbers. Not in North America.

I am not saying it's going to be a bad game. Far from it. It's just that the game doesn't appeal to as wide an audience. I also bet people are waiting to see more of the game before pre-ordering anyway.

It will still be a money maker though.

In Japan and Europe it will make a killing I bet, but I think gamers in America are more of an inpatient bunch and if a game with guns doesn't throw you into the action immediately and makes you wade through a ton of incoherent, badly translated cut scenes it won't move much.

I am not saying MSG4 is going to be bad because of the cut scenes, it could GOTY material, i might be a little bit out there for the American shooter fan.

Wow, surprise. Raving xbox fanatic jihadist Leobabies doesn't think a sony game will do well. And tosses in the blu-ray only diss!

Do you remember MGS1, 2 and 3? Yeah, the american audience had such hard time connecting with those strange furrign games, they bought millions of copies out of apathy.

@el serpiente

"Raving xbox fanatic jihadist"

I like that. Yea I am a little skewed towards the 360, Wii camp but I just think its due to byproduct of being told by Sony that I should've waited off on buying a 360 because the PS3 was heads and shoulders above the 360's capability. That ruined it for me when it comes to trusting Sony's credibility. It doesn't mean I wont cave in and buy one in the near future SCE still puts out some of the best title in the industry.

Now going back on the previous sales of MSG titles in NA. There has been a gradual decline in MSG sales for each iteration this is due to two factors.

1. The Splinter Cell series has taken away many fans that enjoy high budget stealth titles. The MSG series is no longer considered the only quality stealth game in town in NA.

2. The industry has changed since the last MSG title was released significantly. I think action game fans have grown tired of the Japanese style action game with prolonged cut scenes, and unrealistic surreal plot lines. I think the reason MSG was so popular in the PS1 PS2 days was because of the early foothold of Sony's consoles providing the only high budget action title on the market accessible to the general gaming public. Now with the rebirth of the FPS on consoles, and quality PC developers having success on consoles that action player demographic has moved on to instant gratification games like Halo, Gears of War, Call of Duty, and Resistance.

I agree about MGS; the plot has always been a little arcane. But I am biased I suppose... I haven't enjoyed a MGS game since the first PSX version.

PS.
thank you for not reducing yourself to el serpientes level. he's only fit to crawl on his belly like the slithering beast which shares his name.

Your mom and I have the same name? COOL!

Go look at leobabies posting history. At least I am sane.

(Yeah, I made a mom joke. He set me up so well)

sigh, I love that vid. God damn he speaks the truth.

thank you for doing this for me...i was getting tired of it myself and I only did it a couple of times.

You do realise lots of people had freezing issues with the PS3 version as well, don't you?

Yeah but they were fortunate enough to have a patch put out.

And if I'm not mistaken this post is about the 360 and GTA IV. I never said it wasn't a problem elsewhere.

I've had it freeze twice on me in the past week (game locks up, radio still plays). And according to the little stats page, my longest continuous game was just over 7 hours.

So you've blown the problem way out of proportion.

I haven't installed the patch yet and haven't had a single freezing issue on my launch 60gb PS3.

In fact, I'm having trouble installing the patch, several times it goes to 1% and stops and one time it stopped at 67%.

What I find remarkable then, is that 60% of people who recently bought a 360 did not also pick up GTA. WTF? I know the game isn't for everyone, but I still find that 40% stat a bit low.

Maybe they already got it at another store, or are going to, or the store was out of GTA IV copies at the time.