It's a rumor because nobody's sure the translation correct or not.

ah, I see. Thank you round-eye for your clarification.
Maybe the Divine power of the Pink Unicorn has something to do with this.

metal gear solid isn't even close to being the best game of all time...i've played em all an they never live up to the hype

The series is in my Top 3 of all time, but i would never consider it the best game ever. Great story, innovative gameplay (for its time) and impressive graphics, but there's flaws that make them less attractive. MGS2, for example, was great, but extremely linear with nothing else to do other than play through it again on harder difficulties. Substance rectified that, but it came a year late.

Since when is Linear a bad thing? Seriously, this is the reason why so many gamers are starting to annoy me....

Does this mean that my enjoyment of Super Mario Brothers is hampered because I always go from level 1-1 to 1-2? And you're talking about an excessively cinematic game in all MGS games. To remove linearity to that game flow is to suddenly have cut-scenes detached from the overworld and last time I checked, GTA had that fucking covered.

Seriously, shut up, sit back, and enjoy the ride of these things you call video games. If it's linear, who cares? Was it fun and told a good story? Yeah?!? THEN WHAT THE HELLS THE PROBLEM?!?

Actallly, I'm kinda with knightsray on this one. When the first PS1 Metal Gear Solid came out, I had played Thief: The Dark Project. When I got to play Metal Gear, I couldn't help thinking it was just Thief for thickos. Apparently "super soldiers" in the Metal Gear world was another name for "blind, deaf retards that could be fooled by wearing a fucking box!"

Metal Gear Solid 2 was also a let down. Don't get me wrong, MGS1 was a GREAT game, and so MGS2 was a let down. A game made of cut scenes about some whiny prick that wasn't Snake != teh fun.

Now there's this shit along with the iffy review. Grey me out all you like, but the fact is, I won't be running out to buy a PS3 to play this. I could be wrong and this game could be awesome, but seeing how I don't know anyone with a damn PS3, I won't be able to find out first hand.

are the MGS games decent yeah. But seriously, greatest game of all time? I seriously doubt it.

Most Bizarre of all time perhaps. Best of all time? No. Metal Gear Solid, as a whole, is a game that is better than the sum of it's parts. It's not the best shooter, it's been one-upped for stealth gameplay by Splinter Cell, it lets you play as Raiden etc. When you add it all up though, the shooting, the stealth, the humour, the bizarre F'ed-uppedness, etc, you get something that is better than the things that went into it.

I'm hoping that MGS4 can bring back that MGS1 feel, but without the crazy Ninja's, or the vampires, etc. Give me snake, give me an exciting (wintery, not deserty, kthxbai) setting to sneak around in, and I'm set.

You are a really poor excuse for a troll. If you're going to try and flame someone, put some effort into it.

Well, at least you're not pretending to be a 'sony fan' any more...

His last name is "Bryant".

He needs to spell the last name differently to avoid a lawsuit.

I doubt it. I don't think anyone here really thinks the real kobe cares where MGS ranks as a series on an all time list or even knows what it is.

You just make 360 owners look bad, make 360 fanboys way more annoying than PS3 fanboys as a mindless troll retarded clone of Kobe. : )

probably true, like Brett Favre's numerous retirements, or how SSBB's Masahiro Sakurai left HAL Labs in 2003 because he didn't want to do anymore Nintendo sequels

MGV is gonna rule.

Isn't expecting it to be great without playing it first biased to begin with?

@trmacdonal

Considering the development time put into this game along with the studio's past accomplishments, I think it's fairly objective to assume the fourth and final title in the series will be as well received as the initial three.

You're funny. :)

Sounds like someone's got a grudge. Also if you honestly think kojima is arrogant I'd love to hear what you think of miyamoto who's done nothing but say things like "I can create halo" and "I wanted OOT in FPS mode back in 1996" for the last year or so.

I disagree with pretty much everything you said, except for the toy license reference, of which I can not confirm or deny.

It sounds more to me that you are the one that couldn't understand the games, and thus you pan them off as crap and slight anyone that enjoyed them. Bad form, Leo, bad form.

"How do I know this of Kojima. He stripped my friends' action figure company's license because they accidentally previewed of MSG Solid's Figures. Kojima was pissed, dude needs to get off his high horse."


That's called a bias opinion kids.


Your opinions are now void, even if you liked the game you wouldn't say so because Kojima raped your dog and burned down a local orphanage... so, just stop.

KTHX

So your "friends" company likely broke confidentiality and previewed something before he should have despite the papers that he obviously signed and had the license rightfully pulled but it's Kojima being an egotist....

You do realize this is the same man who harnessed the power of the sun, not for a fruit drink, but for a vampire hunting game and is the producer of Japan's largest dating sim series (Tokimeki memorial)? Not to mention if you took the time to READ his blog, his observations and such can best be described as a random genuis. His official blog runs the gamut from BluRays impact to gameplay (which he said was very little) to lamenting on needing to buy a new organizer since the one his wife gave him many years ago is no longer useful (and to him, it would be like losing a friend since it was a 10+ year old organizer).

Now, compare his behavior to Pete Monyluex, Cliffy B, Mark Rein, John Carmack, or even Dennis Dyack...

I agree with you on the "high art" statement. It's kind of sad to see so many teenagers think that the story of MGS is "deep" and "complex" when anyone who has taken any literary or philosophical courses can see what a jumbled up mess of a story Kojima tells. It's overly pretentious and trys way to hard to be deep and philosophical. Unfortunately, a majority of people that play this game are teens who have little grasp on storytelling.

If Kojima wants a deep story, he really needs to start figuring out how to actually TELL the story in an intelligent way and stop using philosophical ideas that are laughably bad.

Note: I've generally enjoyed most of the MGS games so far, if only for their gameplay and characters. Those are the two things that Kojima can do well.

@Joeshie

I have been saying over and over what you just posted on many other blogs and those who have some education in literature and know the works of Hemingway, Beckett, and Fitzgerald can attest how unnecessarily convoluted Kojima's attempts to storytelling are.

Here is an excerpt about this same subject I posted on Kotaku;

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If anyone here took a screenplay class or an intense writing class you would realize that Metal Gear story lines are completely unnecessary and extremely self centered and egoistic. What made Hemingway so great was that he wasn't so focused on adverbs and adjectives he just got to the meat of the story without aggrandizing everything the character was experiencing at the moment. Metal Gear does this and then some. Instead of Solid Snake went to point A then to point B, its Solid Snake went to point A while staring at the night sky contemplating thoughts about his war at home and while realizing he hasn't taken a shit in two days then shows up at point B showing strain on his face with no bathroom in sight. Kojima thinks we care about Solid Snake's irrelevant mundane thoughts, he thinks we care about the most mundane minutia between the conversations of his characters. He does not trust his audience to disect and analyze the subtext of the characters.

Japanese game writing is notorious for this. They think that verbal masturbation is important to their games, but anyone with any lick of writing experience can see right through it and look at it for what it is, an sneak peak into the soul of an immature 6th grade poem about being rejected for the first time."

@Joeshie

Yeah I'm going to have to agree with you there. MGS is kinda like the evangelion of the gaming world. It's a game that is heralded by many as the greatest video game series of all time(which is bullshit) and the creator is considered to be a genious. But in reality the actual gameplay in MGS have always been meh at best and the cutscenes are (as you put it best) a bunch of jumbled incoherent cutscenes that try to make the game seem deep and meaningful but in reality is just incredibly pretentious. I still shudder when I think of the 30 min cutscene in MGS2. SEriously what the fuck?
What makes it worst is the insane fanbase that, just like the fans of Evangelion, insult your intelligence claiming you didn't understand it (which is also bullshit). Becaues apparently, only those with a high IQ can fully appreciate the series.

I can understand why some people like the game. It isn't my cup of tea and I understand. But I really do hate it when people try to pass it off as "THE GREATEST GAMING SERIES OF ALL TIME!!!" It simply isn't true.

And to the Evangelion fans, I really did try giving the show a chance(I watched 10 episodes) but the story was incredibly boring and Shinji is possibly the most annoying main character I've seen in an anime.

Vegeta, no.... so close... only 6 more episodes and things would have changed... you really need someone to watch it with.

But, I guess I'm mindless because MGS is probably my favorite series, and EVA is my favorite anime.....

Am I truly that much of a conformist? I really doubt it.

But please, for the sake of a fellow Joystiq'r try and watch the rest of EVA.

I've got to say the same thing Vegeta. The storyline is not as direct as say Vegeta describing how Freiza destroyed his homeworld and why he needs to prove Saiyan pride, etc etc yadda yadda,

However, it speaks to a lot of japanese people who feel pressured to follow in their fathers footsteps but at the same time feel abandoned by their father. Succeed in school! Work hard! Become successful!

In the meantime, the father is working such long hours, burried in work, to pay for housing, schooling, cost-of-living, he rarely gets to see his Son except for an hour or two a night if even.

The story is a narrative interpretation but taken to a bit extreme. Shinji literately is given the 'weight-of-the-world' or responsibility for 'survival-of-mankind' is put on the children's shoulders.

Shinji who has never gotten to see his father as he's been so busy working for Shinji's future now as to come to terms with his father's absence and Shinji's darker feelings towards his father.

Granted, its characters are a bit extreme, the fantasy world involves lots of angry screaming, etc, but overall if you look at the story. Its a pretty nice exploration of the concept through fiction.

Oh don't get me wrong, I did get Evangelion, and I understood why Shinji acted the way he did. That doesn't mean that made the story any less boring, nor does it make Shinji an interesting or likable character.

Perhaps I will finish the series, but it's incredibly hard to find any motivation. Like with MGS, I can undestand why people would like this anime. But it's nowhere near the "GREATEST ANIME OF ALL TIME" status it has garnered.

...how do I put this lightly without going onto a long half-page rant like the previous comments?


By saying it's a just friggin' videogame. Anyone taking this game, or any other title for more than that needs a serious reality check.

Sure, I'm a fan of the series but it's *just* gaming entertainment value. Nothing more or less. Don't like it? Don't bother giving it your "precious" time.

`the end.