So, there's this game called Metal Gear Solid 4 ... it's apparently a big deal for the PlayStation 3. Well, above is the movie-style trailer (with movie-voice guy) for those interested in watching it. No pressure. Watch it, don't watch it. We wish there was more we could do to generate hype for this indie title made in some guy named Hijeo KoshimaHideo Kojima's garage on a shoe-string budget.
After the break you'll find three ads involving MGS4. It's really nice to see Sony taking an interest in this title. It warms our cockles to see a giant corporation give support to a game featuring geriatrics at war.
A. This is the internet. Grow a thicker armor or go away.
B. I readily admit I'm an asshole. It's fun.
C. Original poster essentially insulted an entire nation and I say he should die painfully, and I'm the asshole? I guess comments like "fuck the chinese" is perfectly acceptable to you, just so long as no one wishes death upon the person who said that.
There aren't rules to the internet. We are not talking hacker code of ethics or anything. If you flame, you should expect flames back. Die in a Fire is relatively tame, actually. You should try Xbox Live sometime. So as I said before, if you take ANYTHING said on the internet seriously or get hurt in any way, grow some thicker armor or go away. There is always a group of people ready to flame you right back.
Now, how exactly didn't the original post insult an entire nation of developers? Let me repeat the statement here...
"Okay, further proof that Japan and Drama do not mix. They should stick to cheerleaders and a bouncy plumber."
So basically he's insulted Japanese developers as a whole based on something that the developer himself (Kojima for those out of the know) readily admits is silly and excessive. Japan and Drama do not mix is insulting enough and devalues the nation as a whole. But they should stick to cheerleaders and a bouncy plumber? Games that represent, maybe, .0001% of Japanese developed games? There are actually more US deved cheerleading games than Japanese developed ones and somehow this is to be used as an insult? HOW IN THE HOLY HELL is this not an attack, en masse, to Japan and their developers? How can you explain that?
And then you use my post as an attack against me. Did you read my post or just write it off as "tee hee, he's insulting as well." My post was in response to the general bashing of the actual TVs which are very typical for Japanese game ads.
As I said, it's too bad we don't have some sort of cultural differences we could blame for the Japanese MGS4 ads not connecting with many posters here. A damn shame, really.
And I know, die in a fire is truly excessive... but c'mon. How do you know I'm not Grand Theft Autophorically speaking? I've died in a fire many times in that game....
I am going with Sir Fid on this one, It has nothing to do with JPN vs USA game stories, its Video Game stories in general, are really not as good as they could be.
I will say, as a whole, I am much more impressed with JPN story-telling, especailly in jrpg's, than western games.
when it comes down to it, Is Halo, or Mass Effect, or any other western game a REALLY good story?? ME tells it very well, but the nuts and bolts is just re-tred space drama.
Exactly and there's nothing wrong with enjoying a game while laughing at its plot. What's sad are the self-brainwashed that take the plot and characters seriously and actually think there's an iota of quality in there. The games ARE FUN and SILLY...but genius? What all games should strive to be? The epitome of good story telling and character development?! Really!? REALLY!? When I was 8 or 9 and played the first metal gear on nes..yeah, i was too young to know the difference.
Here's a test. Show some clips of MGS to someone that doesn't know who doesn't play video games...see if they laugh at it or not. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. And saying "yeah, but western games don't have good stories either..." is changing the subject. The subject is about metal gear. Nobody has good story telling...let's be honest. But this game literally pickles itself in its story (and forces the players to do the same) and obviously doesn't know when to stop.
There are game with good plots, its just that a game with a good plot can often mean less gaming, or the plot goes overboard, much like FF7.
Persoanlly I like a game with a story, not that I don't like games without one, but the story adds a bit more reasoning as to why you are wasting time doing whatever you are doing in the first place. If the game is anything like GTA4, then even if life is pointless and your mission is pointless, who cares, at least you had fun while doing it. But its when we go into all the hero sylvester stallone one man army rubbish that gets me annoyed.
Whatever happened to the days when characters didn't need to be male or have an 8 pack in order to be a hero. What happened to Gordan Freeman days?
"Whatever happened to the days when characters didn't need to be male or have an 8 pack in order to be a hero"
I don't think that period ever existed, to be honest.
I agree with JFK, stories in video games tend to be poor, even embarrassing at times. It's hard to argue with that.
But there are small incremental steps being made, and the MGS has always tried. I'd rather pay for a game that tries to aim higher than another that relies on backwards thinking or nostalgia, and such.
If I had a PS3 I'd surely get this. But I'll wait for the inevitable Wii port...
Yes it is. I think most people with PS3s were anticipating it very much.
BUT that was until now, now that we've all read that you think these are bad, I don't think any of us will be buying it anymore. Thank you for saving us from a grievous error.
Nice logic champ...you forgot to mention that this ad is clearly trying to mimic western style ads. This just in...it's not "bad translation" it's "bad product."
Keep making excuses though, they make you sound real intelligent. Blame the audience, it's their fault.
PLEASE DESIST! This thread is not for fans of MGS4, this is a forum for all those who don't even own a PS3 to come in and tell us how unimpressed they are by anything they see and how they won't be buying it.
Wow that's kinda funny coming from you since you have absolutely no problem going into 360 threads and bashing Microsoft/xbox games/xbox fanboys yet when someone does it to sony you get all defensive about it and start whining.
My advice: If you can't take the shit you yourself dish out, might as well not talk shit at all.
sorry el serpiente i dont know how to reply =´P im new here. the thing is i dont have ps3 just ps2 x´D im happy with my 360 for now, but il get one ps3 wen ff XIII come out.i just saw the movie i dindt read the title i just was kinda exited about the ninja thing i was not trying anything =´P sorry if i said something worng. I dont speak english so sorry about any grammar errors. peace \o/ x´D
oh! loool i see x´D I still have a lot to learn =´P im from portugal sorry about all that then, im a school dropout =´P so all the inglish i have learnd is from tvshows.anyway the game is going to be awesome =´) take care
The biggest problem I see here is that they're trying to make the story accessible to people who have never heard of MGS before...which it isn't. Also, it seems like they're going for the "THIS SUMMER" action movie vibe, especially with LaFontaine. These things just don't fit with the series at all...it's like they're handpicking the cheesiest dialogue. Too bad, cool new footage though.
"Your body is approaching its limit. ...And so is my outfit." Maybe, one day in the not-too-distant future, the games indusrty will be capable of creating female characters that aren't just there for T&A.
"THIS SUMMER... you will watch CUTSCENE after CUTSCENE!"