It is always so much fun to post the thoughts of industry analysts. No matter what the topic, there are guaranteed to be comments regarding A) what an easy job analysts have and B) how nothing analysts say comes true. Honestly, analyst posts are fun for all ages. The latest analytical blatherskite holds that the Playstation 3 will have won the console war by 2012. Specifically, according to CNET, IDC analyst Billy Pidgeon claims that by 2012 the PS3 will have moved a whopping 107 million units. The Xbox 360? By 2012, Pidgeon predicts Microsoft will have sold just over 40 million units. In other words, the PS3 will grow exponentially year over year, whereas the 360 will grow at a much more tepid pace.
The reason: market perception. Analyst extraordinaire Michael Pachter gave his two cents, noting that Microsoft has "an image issue." Essentially, the 360, according to Pachter, is perceived as a console for hardcore gamers only, whereas the PS3 (and more specifically Sony) is perceived as family friendly. Aaron Greenberg, 360 product manager, naturally disagrees, noting that the Xbox 360 has more million-selling titles than either the Wii or PS3 and that the 360 has "the largest game lineup, and the most exclusive titles."
Another interesting point made by Pachter is that price is a huge factor in console sales. Interesting, because the Xbox 360 (we're fairly certain) will always have a price advantage over the PS3, and the low-end Xbox 360 (the Arcade) could easily meet the Wii's (current) $250 price point before 2008 is out. "Consumers just have this image that consoles cost $199 or less," said Pachter. Considering that the 360 will almost definitely hit $199 before the PS3, are there really that many people just waiting for the PS3 to get cheaper, all other consoles be damned? Guess we'll find out in four years or so.
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Reader Comments (67)
Posted: May 22nd 2008 3:40PM Jonman said
Tsk Richard. That's not exponential growth. That's linear growth.
Uninterestingly enough, the Wii and 360 trends are inverse exponential growths.
Maths is your friend.
Uninterestingly enough, the Wii and 360 trends are inverse exponential growths.
Maths is your friend.
Posted: May 22nd 2008 3:41PM (Unverified) said
By 2012 the XB360 will be a fond memory as the newest XB will be out. Things they need to do right are.
-More Stable Hardware!
That being said my XB360 has NEVER given me any problems whatsoever...
-Cheaper! (people are sheep they like cheap!
-Make online gaming free as with crappy PS3 has right now
Everything they need to do is a given....
-More Stable Hardware!
That being said my XB360 has NEVER given me any problems whatsoever...
-Cheaper! (people are sheep they like cheap!
-Make online gaming free as with crappy PS3 has right now
Everything they need to do is a given....
Posted: May 22nd 2008 4:35PM (Unverified) said
It makes sense , PS3 is an international console , the wii is a cheap console , an the 360 is a rap console that is only worth owning in America , it makes lots of sense .
Also , releasing a new xbox every 4 years is stupid , they should do it more like the PS3 and make it future ready to last ten years , of course the PS3 is going to win . Buying an X720 for $500 plus would be real smart compared to paying mabey $150 for a PS3(which will still be out , and strong enough to be considerd a current gen system for 2 gens) which by then will have a MUCH LARGER intsall base .
Personally , I love Japenese games like final Fantasy , so I got the PS3.
Also , releasing a new xbox every 4 years is stupid , they should do it more like the PS3 and make it future ready to last ten years , of course the PS3 is going to win . Buying an X720 for $500 plus would be real smart compared to paying mabey $150 for a PS3(which will still be out , and strong enough to be considerd a current gen system for 2 gens) which by then will have a MUCH LARGER intsall base .
Personally , I love Japenese games like final Fantasy , so I got the PS3.
Posted: May 22nd 2008 4:39PM Trogd0r said
I just realized that these predictions have the PS3 selling a minimum of 15 million consoles annually from here on out and a whopping 30 million in 2010. He also predicts the 360 will sell 5 million or less annually from here on.
If he believes there will be a market for 30 million PS3s and 10 million Wiis in 2010, I have to say that there would be a bigger market than his predicted 2 million or so for the 360 in 2010.
The 360 has sold almost 20 million consoles in 2 1/2 years, how could MS only manage to sell 15 million in the next 4? Even if the new Xbox came out next year the 360 could still manage to sell more than 15 million in the next 4 years assuming MS supports it.
He really did base these numbers on the last generation, except for the Wii of course.
If he believes there will be a market for 30 million PS3s and 10 million Wiis in 2010, I have to say that there would be a bigger market than his predicted 2 million or so for the 360 in 2010.
The 360 has sold almost 20 million consoles in 2 1/2 years, how could MS only manage to sell 15 million in the next 4? Even if the new Xbox came out next year the 360 could still manage to sell more than 15 million in the next 4 years assuming MS supports it.
He really did base these numbers on the last generation, except for the Wii of course.
Posted: May 22nd 2008 5:15PM yost said
who gives a damn if the ps3 does "win" the console war... we 360 gamers paid less, and got better games...I am more than satisfied with my 360.even if I only count what I've done with it so far it has more than earned the money I paid for it...and I still have fable 2 and halo wars coming... "won" the last cosole war and good for it but that does not make my xbox orig a less worthy purchase .I prolly pick up a ps3 when it hit's bargin bin prices for all 5 of the good games it will have (already have a wii)...
Posted: May 22nd 2008 5:19PM MasterGouken said
I agree...
in 2012, every smart people on earth, probably will have a xbox 360... so after a while, with no more things to buy, people will think... heck.... why not buy a ps3... its shiny, play BD, and im pretty sure, couting 2008 to 2012, they are going to release some worth our money...
Prepare urself M$... ur going to be outsold in 2012... thats catastrophic... well done Sony... :D
in 2012, every smart people on earth, probably will have a xbox 360... so after a while, with no more things to buy, people will think... heck.... why not buy a ps3... its shiny, play BD, and im pretty sure, couting 2008 to 2012, they are going to release some worth our money...
Prepare urself M$... ur going to be outsold in 2012... thats catastrophic... well done Sony... :D
Posted: May 22nd 2008 5:29PM (Unverified) said
LOL ...and there will still be nothing to play on the PS3
Posted: May 24th 2008 5:40AM (Unverified) said
This chart is seriously LOL its not even funny. Its like Ms. Cleo predicting who will win all the gold medals at the olympics.
Posted: May 22nd 2008 6:10PM (Unverified) said
so Killzone 2 , Resistance 2 , Final Fantasy XIII , MGS4 , and many other games don't exist . I really thought hard about getting a 360 , but i'm not going to buy a whole system just to play Halo 3 , I guess I'll be getting the PC version .
Posted: May 23rd 2008 12:08AM MasterGouken said
1,2,3,4...
600 bucks for 4 games... if
No, thanks...
Ok, being serious, i have a 360, and i had a PS3, i think is a great machine, and when i saw metal gear, i even considereg thinking of buying again... but for me, sony is having problems bringing good games to the PS3, i like FPS, but resistance, hmmm i didnt like a lot, on PS3, i prefer play the small games you can download. And believe or not, for me, achievements points, even being useless, make a difference, if i have to chose between Assassins PS3 and Assassins 360 i go for 360, because have achievements, i know is psychological, but being 30 years old, i need a motivation to play certain games, but woulb be cool have booth !
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600 bucks for 4 games... if
No, thanks...
Ok, being serious, i have a 360, and i had a PS3, i think is a great machine, and when i saw metal gear, i even considereg thinking of buying again... but for me, sony is having problems bringing good games to the PS3, i like FPS, but resistance, hmmm i didnt like a lot, on PS3, i prefer play the small games you can download. And believe or not, for me, achievements points, even being useless, make a difference, if i have to chose between Assassins PS3 and Assassins 360 i go for 360, because have achievements, i know is psychological, but being 30 years old, i need a motivation to play certain games, but woulb be cool have booth !
Posted: May 22nd 2008 6:22PM (Unverified) said
I don't get how he thinks the PS3 is geared more towards family rather than 360....that's why all the PS3 commercials have heavy medal rock playing, and creepy black rooms, while when the 360 came out had people playing jump rope and having water balloon fights and the slogan "Jump In".......and the 360 has arcade......ARCADE!!!!MOVIES!!!!TV SHOES=family oriented.
Posted: May 22nd 2008 7:33PM (Unverified) said
If only M$ could think of a way to combine HD movies and games in one console to the rest of the WORLD!!!
Posted: May 22nd 2008 8:43PM Haohmaru said
In the end, aside from the psychotic fanboys rampant on the internet, who really gives a fuck?
Posted: May 24th 2008 10:03PM (Unverified) said
I'm sure this has already been pointed out a billion times but the next Xbox will be out around 2010. Nobody's going to care how many PS3's $ony is selling in comparison to the 360 in 2012 when the next-gen will be have been around for two years.
Posted: May 23rd 2008 12:04AM (Unverified) said
The PS3 will sell as more than the Wii by 2012? Are the ****ing INSANE!
Posted: May 23rd 2008 3:59AM (Unverified) said
I find this Laughable as Xbox 3 could blow the Ps3 sideways for one Xbox live in 4 years time will blow everything else away, Wait !! it does that already.
I never trust things like this anyway, By the time they Bring out Ps4 I'm sure they will be working on Xbox 4 an I'm sure that the Sony will be playing catch up.
I'm willing to bet my house on this Sony will make all these statements and promises about the Ps4 but they will drop them or will be delayed.
I never trust things like this anyway, By the time they Bring out Ps4 I'm sure they will be working on Xbox 4 an I'm sure that the Sony will be playing catch up.
I'm willing to bet my house on this Sony will make all these statements and promises about the Ps4 but they will drop them or will be delayed.
Posted: May 29th 2008 3:22AM (Unverified) said
This kinda 'analysis' makes me furious, it is in no way justified and does not deserve to be reported on. Its a cheap shot at getting their names in the headlines by saying something controversial. But its ok to say this crap when no one will give a sh** in a week, let alone 2012! Theres no point in arguing for or against this ludicrous prediction because it is just that; a ludicrous, unjustified prediction.
Please to not pander to these attention seekers X3F, you're better than this.
Please to not pander to these attention seekers X3F, you're better than this.
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