Battle of the 'Bams!': Resistance 2 vs. Killzone 2

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I'm thinking Resistance 2 is going to be the better game and probably the only of the 2 I'll pick up.

R2 will be better by a mile, but we havn't seen any K2 multiplayer, so we still don't know how the other half is shaping up. Id rather play the demo first and judge for myself. Though i don't get any of the comlaints people make about the game being boring, i think its fine, whenever i play halo all i do is hold the triggers and shoot things.

yeah because an 8 is really really bad.

Nah. Killzone 2 will get a few 10's just because EVERY major release is over scored these days. MGS4 is up next.

@Samfish

I agree -

I noticed it especially with Brawl & Mario Kart ... Brawl deserved some decent scores but Mario Kart is pretty much a horrible game ...

Who the hell would have thought a scale periphial would average over an 80 metacritic review ... I bet Wii Fit is harder to find than an actual Wii at this point ...

Wow, I didn't know Mario Kart Wii got such good scores. I went to the Nintendo Store launch for it and was one of the first people to get it and I think it's complete shit. I don't know how you could honestly score that game above a 6. It doesn't take any skill to play, the better you get the more you get blue shelled/combo'd the hell out of.

Really? I'd say it's one of the most engaging Mario Karts to date. Anyone can see that the game definitely needed more time for graphical spit-and-polish, and more in-depth local multiplayer would be good (one of the first time that Wii online multiplayer has been more comprehensive than Offline multiplayer), but what the game does is great. Online infrastructure is smooth and easy to use, the tracks are mostly made of win, including the toughest 3D Rainbow Road to date

It's not without its flaws, but i would say that the flaws are only on the technical side of things. The way gameplay is balanced can be rather annoying in the short term, but in the long term, skill matters much more than luck of the item draw

That's the thing that annoys me, no matter how good you are it doesn't matter. I've lost races being a half lap ahead on the last lap only to end up taking 10th because a blue shell hit me, then another blue shell, then another blue shell, then a guy with a star, then a red shell, then another guy with a star, then a bullet bill, it just gets insane. I watched a friend play it the other day and he was in first going around the last corner of the race when a guy with a star hit him, then another guy with a star hit him, then another guy with a star hit him, and then a shell hit him and he took last. It's like Nintendo Communism or something, I can only hope that Super Smash Bros. doesn't get this treatment in it's next iteration. Could you imagine if since someone had 1 life left they instantly got tons of final smashes?

REAL, Halo Killer = COD4 ;)

The term halo killer needs to stop altogether for every shooter because of two reasons

1) It's not hard to make a better shooter than that mediocre garbage. Plenty of FPS are better like half life 2, cod 4, and bioshock.

2) COD 4 already killed it in every aspect.

I forgot gears. Gears is also much better than halo and while the story isn't jaw droppingly awesome it's at least passable.

You know what's funny? Everytime I see the "_____killer" bullshit started, it isn't from the fans. Nope, it's either from magazines trying to sell copies or it's from the console detractors trying to pretend there is hype. I mean, really.... Haze... a Halo Killer?!? The hell are you smoking?!? Never once did I see those phrases used by intelligent people.

I mean, let's put it in a way even your miniscule mind can comprehend as to why I detest this phrase. Gamepro, EGM, and Tips & Tricks all three once claimed Brave Fencer Musashiden is looking to be the Zelda killer playstation fans were waiting for. How do I know this? Once upon a time I was a Sega and Nintendo fan who hated Sony (amazing what Quest 64 can do to a guy). I was, at the time, thinking what asses they must be for even trying to topple OoT. And then it dropped and all three magazines remarked how it failed to be a Zelda killer and snapped at the game for failing to reach ambitions like that.

I wrote it off. Brave Fencer Musashi was a shitty Zelda clone. Nothing could convince me otherwise... until I saw a $10 copy used at my local Waldensoftware. Oh shit, oh snap, time to make fun of how sucky this game was. But something happened. Brave Fencer Musashi was nothing like Zelda. It followed an excessively linear path with an emphasis on platforming and maintaining your swords rather than exploration. This was insane to me. How could the two games even be compared? This was like saying Hot Shots Golf is going to be the big Madden killer this year. So I found a gem, and researched where this silly notion came from. Sure enough, the magazines started the rants and even the game creator called the very notion silly. The magazines meanwhile sold more copies and added fuel to the flamewars.

It was the media that branded the first one a halo killer, and free radical dubbed haze a halo killer.

Hillary Clinton: the DLC's Obama killer.

...although if she's his VP, she probably will...

CONSPIRACIES!

I'm sorry but COD4 might have sold more and than Halo 3 but I still believe Halo 3 MP is way better than COD4. Its much better competitive play and way more balanced and fun.

People should stop hating so much on Halo 3. Its a great game. Its not the Best game ever thats for sure, but its not mediocre either.

Fid is right. It's almost never the fans of the game being called an "X killer" that call it that. It's usually the media or the fantards of other systems.

Yeah, sorry. Halo done got kilt by COD 4.

It was a bit long in the tooth anyway. The people who were blown away by Halo 1 are 6 years older now. And younger gamers will just start with COD 4 and never look back.

BioShock was no Halo killer. Halo is primarily an online game, BioShock has no online component.

Shouldn't be the only reason why you're playing this game.

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now that it's two full years later.....the game it was competing against (gears) has a sequel coming out in Nov... and they're finally getting reasonably close to their fraudulent target renders? Tis a joke


now resistance2 on the other hand....sexy time

Vegeta

I know, I have a fear of a boring MP and a short and underwhelming (although very stunning) single player with dumb AI =/

For some reason I have this suspicion that they delayed this game to rework MP. Maybe seeing the success of COD4 changed the direction they were going in. I mean we havent seen any MP at all yet so theres another hint. That would be sweet IMO but who knows.

Imagine Wii 2 puttin out this kind of stuff with slightly enhanced, wireless Nunchuk/Wiimote right out of the box day 1. *droolssssssss

It will happen.

"Do tell, Vegeta, what are the criteria for true enjoyment of a videogame?"

hmm I don't know, how bout actual gameplay. Remember that? Or are graphics the only thing now needed to convince you to buy anything like the good little sony whore you are.

if hes a sony whore, then what can i get for a dualshock ;)

Dualshock'll get you a good, hard clit rubbing.

Vegeta is right thats why Gears is so awesome. Great graphics AND gameplay. KZ2 might be the best looking shooter in the next year but I don't know about it being the most fun. Gears 2 will have that covered IMO. How can you beat chainsaw duels? I mean, they're fucking chainsaw duels!!!

"Or are graphics the only thing now needed to convince you to buy anything like the good little sony whore you are."

Okay, I'm going to state this yet again... fuck you and your ivory tower. I'm getting so tired of graphics being an attack point when they are good. "Meh meh meh, graphics are good but how is the gameplay?" Considering the first Killzone played very much like a Call of Duty style game and parallels are being made now to COD4, I'd say the gameplay will be like COD4 except set slightly in the future (we ARE only looking at about 100-200 years here).

Besides, Vegeta, you've obviously played Killzone 2 since you're on a high horse about the gameplay on the title. What's it like? I want to know. From the gameplay I've seen, it looks impressive. How accurate is the rifle while holding sustained fire? Does Killzone 2 retain the very accurate pacing (read: slow) of reloading and grenade throwing? You gotta know this since you're much more in the know than anyone else....

"COD4, I'd say the gameplay will be like COD4 except set slightly in the future (we ARE only looking at about 100-200 years here)."

hmm. Funny how you say this and then question me if I've played the game yet. The fact is, I'm not impressed with the game at all. Sure are the graphics incredible yeah. But that doesn't mean the game itself will be great. Gameplay should be the reason why you put down $60 bucks(or more if you're paying for a console as well) because for all we know KZ2 can be just another Haze. So while I'm willing to accept the fact that KZ2 can do something that will blow me out of the water, as of right now, I'm not impressed.

I only buy a game if I think it's fun, which means it has good gameplay.



...that's why I almost never buy western games.

*sneaks off*

Okay, keep in mind as I saw this, I'm afraid I'm with the graphics whore agenda. It is my profession actually. But, having said that, let me look at this quote.

"Gameplay should be the reason why you put down $60 bucks(or more if you're paying for a console as well) because for all we know KZ2 can be just another Haze."

This, I'll agree with. But here's the deal. All anyone has to base their opinions off of are two things. Graphics and gameplay impressions/videos. We don't know how the game will play. It's still 9 months out. So obviously the big push this early is on the graphics.

So if someone says they are impressed by this, this shouldn't be a reason to pounce on them. Quite the opposite, actually. "Good on you, you can see the graphics."

Gameplay, this far out is moot because even if we knew all the fine details of the gameplay, majority of the game is largely unknown. Take, as an example, Gears of War. A game I'm quite torn on.

You can take the core of the game and say "this is what the gameplay is like." For the most part, you may have a point. But there are sections of the game where the gameplay is radically different from the pop and shoot mechanic of the bulk of the game. Like the section where you drive the vehicle or have to man the gun. Or my personal favorite sequence of the game, where you had to blow the propane tanks to create and stay in the pools of light. Meanwhile both of your beserker fights were dramatically different from the other gameplay as well.

Now, according to Cliffy B, what was shown of Gears 2 so far is what he calls a 10 on action. There are sections that will be 2s or 3s and much less scripted. So at this point, all people can comment on is what was shown and the graphics. That's where we're at on Killzone 2 as well.

So you ask the question, is this worth $60 to only have the graphics? Well, I don't see Sony or Epic stating that we have to buy the game RIGHT NOW if we want to play it when it comes out. So it's an invalid question. We'll have to wait for more details regardless before we decide whether the game will be worth $60 or not.

Hi my name is FenixKnight and I'm a graphics whore. Sad but true. :(

@Wong

I agree with you. Which is why I'm saying you shouldn't only be buying this because it looks good. I'm tired of going to joystiq and other gaming forums where people are claiming this'll make fanboys weep or this will be the greatest FPS ever. Why? Because it looks pretty. I mean we don't know enough to even make a judgement yet, which is why I'm taking the wait and see approach.

I'm not saying the game will be bad, that's not what I'm saying at all. I agree we haven't seen enough of the game yet, but from what I've seen so far, I haven't seen anything that makes me jump out of my seat yet.

Terrible?

Really now?

You do realize those screens were released in 2007? And proven to be doctored?

If you've watched the Killzone 2 Direct Feed Gameplay and still think it looks "terrible", then so be it.

I'm just glad I don't know how it feels to be blind.

Joke post or have you not seen much of kz2?

They aren't terrible, but they don't look any better than current "next-gen" games.

shouldnt it be called current gen now.

Personally, it should just be called 'games' by now.

That said, I'm looking forward to next-gen Mario now.

You must really be anticipating both of them!

I got a bit carried away there with all my excitement.

Or maybe the reason why GOW got good scores is because it had a decent single player and an awesome multiplayer mode.

Also if you think graphics alone will help a game, think Lair.

by multiplayer u mean coop right? cause online multi for GOW sucked hard.

lol@ vegeta
GoW multiplayer sucked extremely hard.. aside from co-op (wow one friend)the multiplayer aspect was junk.

Maybe you need to review the old scores.. 'cause i dont think it scored high for its MP lol!

I'm with KiraXD

The single player mode was mind blowing. I played it 4 times in all difficulties and in Co-op it was so awesome especially in insane mode.

The multiplayer mode was weak compared to the single player mode due serious lag issues and the xbox live players being as stereotypically stupid as always. Getting the achievements was really hard since the game didn’t counted the kills at the moment but at the end of the matches and I always had the luck that the host was tired of being owned and disconnected or I lost the connection at the best moment.

Another problem was that the Xlive is full of f@gs especially games like Halo 3 and GOW. Some matches were fixed (The other team was of just 2 guys, some players didn’t moved etc etc) how it can be true skill matches when people cheated the f*ck out of the game? At least let me get the achievements in player matches that are actually fun to play. While ranked was full of fail and Aids but player matches were actually fun but people rarely played more than 3 different maps. It was a b*tch when I couldn’t connect to a match because I didn’t have the new map pack, I got the map pack and all the matches were in the classic 6 maps again, WTF with that?

Again I’m buying Gears 2 for the Single player mode, f*ck the online mode.

It must really have sucked hard to be the 3rd most played game on Live a few weeks ago a year and a half after release (and it's never been worse than 5th). I could make it through this entire console generation with just Gears and no other game and be happy.