Chart-Track UK: 360 outselling PS3 following GTA IV launch

Always amazes me how someone can take pride and joy in MS/Sony/Nintendo making more money. Employees? Investors?

Actually, I'm a little confused. Hmm...

enjoy your new wii cutting board

Why should anyone that owns a ps3 care? It's the same game on either console. I would be more concerned if GTA4 was a good game rather than worry about how well it sells on a specific console.

Stop insulting him. We need to try to communicate with him.

BAAA.

option 2. report for blatant trolling.

"option 2. report for blatant trolling."

Serious Business!

You can take pride in "your" system without uttering the words Sony or fanboy.

I guess I'll go cry while watching some blu-ray movies on my console.

Wii60Warrior, people would probably report your comments because you are just starting fights with them for your own pleasure with little interest in discussion.

Besides, what is so exciting about these numbers to you? The PS3 that you hate so much is still 10% ahead in the UK overall. I just don't see what the "Sony bitches" need to think about.

(*Waits to be called a PS3 fanboy now)

hate to jump on phranctoast's coattails but:


you can take pride in being a gamer and not be a fanboy at all.




just a thought ....

Still seems a little bit creepy to me to be "proud" of being a gamer. I've been gaming all my life. It's my favourite form of entertainment....but that's like taking pride in being a "tv watcher" :s

I do believe Sony has found their Jack Thompson in Wii60Warrior.

Irrational, verocious, opionated whithout even a fraction of fact, and most importantly... so damn stupid he could practically pull the smarts right out of you. You are, in fact, an intelligence vacuum.

And this I do have to wonder. You champion the Wii60 movement which is soooo cute in a second grade sort of way. And while Peter Moore was initially all about it, he turned quickly after Reggie Fils-Aime slammed your movement. To paraphrase, "I think it's just silly. I don't want people to buy a Wii and a 360. I was people to buy a Wii and some Wii games. The entire notion is silly." To which Peter Moore responded at Litzpieg paraphrased "It's cute he would say that since we have the higher software tie ratio and stores aren't forcing bundles on our customers."

In other words, both companies are pissing on the movement you're championing. How does it feel to be a tool to people who basically mock you with each sip of crystal in their penthouse?

"Enjoy your new wii cutting board"

Wait,What? when that happened?

Oh boy I need to buy that,I hope its compatible with cooking mama and Red steel.

@ nato

I think its pretty obvious that you're not a sony fanboy. I've been posting here for a while and reading Joystiq for even longer so I know that you primarily enjoy the 360. Not sure if you own a ps3 or Wii. And if you have a ps3 thats your decision (and in my opinion a waste of money). Not insulting you or anything. Just what I think.

And I've never attacked you or said I had a problem with you as far as I know. So w/e...if you feel like you have to jump on the "holier than thou" bandwagon then thats your perogative.

@ Sir Fidilous

You're making a mountain out of a molehill. What the hell do you expect them to say. Of course each just wants their console to be at the forefront of the consumers minds.

And since when did I say my support of the Wii and 360 is based on certain executives? Even if that was the case your quotes and your arguments don't amount to much. You're just doing the typical sony fanboy nitpicking.

In short
1) Wii > ps3
2) 360 > ps3
3) Wii + 360 = Wii60 = >>>>>>>>>>>>> ps3

Oh and as for the "cutting board" (I'm guessing you're referring to WiiFit) LMAO. It must kill you arrogant sony or hardcore gamers that normal people find something enjoyable in the Wii that doesn't necessarily involve guns, violence, drugs, or w/e it is that makes gaming and your kind "HARDCORE". Just like anyone else I enjoy a variety of game types and I'm not ashamed to admit that WiiFit is definitely a must buy for me and my family. And its not like we're getting like because we're fatasses like most of America seems to be these days.

Its because it will be informative, engaging, revolutionary, and most of all FUN. Thats all. Hate on it all you want but the truth is that you're absolutely jealous of this gem.

Wii60Warrior - yeah I have the other consoles too, but do enjoy the 360 most on the day to day.

Now, I know I was harsh towards you today, but it seems that you have taken this appoach of being really inflammatory with everyone, and it reminds me of how Ken was getting. Its one thing to be a fan of a system, but to make everyone out to be sh*t just because they say something positive about Wii or PS3 is excessive.

A Wii and 360 seems to be the best and more popular console setup. So he is kind of right. But there's a thing about voting people down when their right... bad timing probably. Shrug. Comments are all the same colour in IE7 anyroad.

@ chez

I know right...all this vote up and vote down crap is so funny to me. It doesn't make a difference when using certain browsers.

And even when I'm on a friends comp and it does that lil w/e fading crap people claim it does I still see the writing. Unless the lighting is horrible.

Oh well.

And Nato I don't shoot down anything Wii related. I do hate some of the trash games that are released on it and the online could be better but overall I think the Wii is a decent system. Its just that I think Nintendo should make sure that theres a high standard for the quality of 3rd Party games released on it.

Wow this got outta hand. Goodness gracious calm down people. I think we all know by now exactly what console each regular Stiq poster here prefers. Most just wont admit it because of teh flamez...oh noes, teh internet people wont like me.

I think I'll take a break from the flame wars and just sit back and relax while this mother burns down. lol

wii60bitch tell me 3 ways how da 360 an da wii r better dan da ps3???

the....The...THE!!!!!!

@ rodrigo es mammon


*sigh

Well my break didn't last long :(

I have all 3 systems and can honestly state my opinion on the subject.


Xbox 360...

Xbox LIVE
Game Library
XBLA
XNA...soon
Easier to dev for
Usually better Multiplats
Controller
Gamercards/Pics/Score
Achievements
Cheaper

PS3 fanboys saying Gamerscore, cards, pics, and achievements don't matter are delusional because Sony will be copying this eventually.

Wii...

Mario ;)
Cheaper
Nintendo 1st party titles

Almost forgot, no mandatory installs on 360.

Well, my PS3 at least has Bluray (which I love) and can connect me to the internetz via its web browser that I only use to get PS3 themes. Everyone has their preferences in the end, just let it be man.

wow xfenixhoex u surprised me ill give u da points 4 da controller, game library and mandatory installs. wtf is xna??? and come on mario???? mario hasnt been good since super mario bros 3 which is 1 of my fav. of all time so no points and cheaper yea ill give u dat point and da only good 1st party dat i like is ssbb dats it so no point. anyways im not interested in the legend of zelda: link is gay or mario lifting weights or mario shopping at wal mart

Xna = User created games. This will be available for anyone that makes a game and puts it up on XBLA

Dishwasher Dead Samurai...awesome awesome game!
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/30846.html

These XNA games will also be able to be played on your Zune (if you have one) of course.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/31196.html

thx ill check it out. and by da way i have a ps3 and da 360 and 2 me they r da same so dats y i asked wii60bitch how doeas da 360 is better than da ps3. i had a wii but i returned dat thing cuz it was boring. i dont hate da 360 i hate da wii

..and what makes you different exactly?

GOD YOU'RE BORING
THIS WHOLE THREAD IS BORING, HOW ABOUT WE ALL GO OUT FOR PANCAKES INSTEAD?

Wii60Warrior, you've fallen so far from my point it's tragic. Why did I attack you? Because you're a dumbass console warrior. Evidence is found in this quote...

"That right you sony bitches...think on that."

Now think on this for a moment, if Microsoft loses UK, which they have, they've lost all over Europe. Granted, the race is still so close that it's hard to find clear winner aside from Wii. So I ask, what is there to think about. HOLY SHIT! A SALES SPIKE AFTER A POPULAR GAME LAUNCHED?!? COMPLETELY UNPRESIDENTED BEHAVIOR? Seriously, you're a twat, stop it.

Why does it amuse me that you are "Wii60Warrior?" Because neither company would donate a pigeon fart for your loyalty. Sad but true. And here you are, making an ass of yourself over people who are more concerned with getting your money rather than your allegance. I know Sony and Nintendo could give a shit about me. Just as I know Microsoft won't give two shits when I finally reinvest in 360 as the Jaspers ship (although encountering your ignorant ass with voice chat on Live is perhaps one of the biggest purchasing deterants for the 360, beating the RROD, which I fell victim to five times).

As for which systems are better for which ones, you are not a universal truth. Your opinion means dick to me. So in your little chart, I only see sad attempts at logic. Kind of like watching a child put together a flowchart for his first attempt at Hello World. Considering PCs curb stomp the fuck out of all the consoles anyway, the arguement is suprisingly moot.

Oh yes, and as for the Wii Cutting Board comment, that wasn't me. The only thing that amuses me about WiiFit is that it brings Nintendo within one game of completely stealing the entire of Xavix's lineup.

www.xavix.com

I have to wonder how Nintendo is going to steal EyeHand now...

As for being jealous of this gem, why and I jealous? If I cared about WiiFit, I'd walk to my local mall, pick one up, and play it. You are working under the assumption that I don't own a Wii. I have one, I just don't PLAY it. And WiiFit will NEVER be a comparable workout to the gym I belong to which runs only $8 a month. And as for being a revolutionary gem, dude, both Xavix Personal Tracker and EyeToy: Kinetic predate WiiFit. You see the logo and claim innovation. I see the logo and it only tells me what factory it was made in.

You're a console warrior, true and through. And THAT'S why you get voted down. You incite wars with ignorant statements. That, and remember, as bad as you are of an ignorant troll (see this thread for evidence), there are 300 others just as devout and ignorant as you. And they vote people down too.

Just wanted to say that you get a great deal for gym membership. Here its a lot more. You are very lucky.

Yeah, but my gym isn't exactly the best. It has the equipment I need and that's all. Basically it was a gutted restaurant right next to a sports supply shop and a booze shop. And it's open 24 hours which is better than the much more expensive Cardinal Fitness I used to belong to. So when I get insomnia real bad, I can go workout, BIG plus.

Outta control...thanks you guys! Lol you guys are truly laughable...

And Sir Fid keep telling yourself that Joystiq's "vote up vote down" system is the best thing since God created life...

I could care less what your think about me and my fanboy loyalties.

And there goes that typical sony arrogance. So winning one country means you win the entire freaking continent? What a joke...

Now back and play your shitty Haze game...

Hmmm, not true, you forget that your not the only UK member on this board... Sony centres are few and far between here in the UK and there definitely not mass market, its more of a stereo buffs shop than games... dream on...

Is Final Fantasy really that big? I'm not knocking it (in case that gets misinterpreted)...More curious, because I don't care about them =p

FF sucks ass, its all CGI cut scenes with antiquated turn based game play that harks back to Ultima 1... avoid.

4th best selling franchise in video game history.

Behind things that really shouldnt count like "Mario" in an extremely broad sense of the word 'franchise'.

Pokemon and The Sims, rounding out the top 3.

Yes. It's that big.

FF has sucked ass since FF 10 but FFXIII COULD be the game that brings the series back to its former glory...

At least thats what SE and sony/sony fanboys are hoping for.

Quietly I'm kinda hoping the next FF game is a great success as well. I love the series title "Final Fantasy"...its just so epic.

Trust me when I say that ps3 sales will probably be ridiculous the day FF13 drops on this planet.

That is unless the 360 happens to get EXTREMELY lucky and it becomes multiplat by the grace of God. However I think the chances of that are very slim at best. Unless ps3 sales are not to SE's liking.

Nice Wii60 Warrior and I agree. The only new FF's to come out (not counting DS remakes and the likes) have been FF7, Crisis Core and 10. THATS IT! But thats shiz gets blown up and overhyped. Puhlease!!

I know you're not all so ignorant to think that fans of a series running over 20 years could give a damn about the opinions of, well anyone. No need bringing descriptive adjectives into this.

Your opinions have no effect on the numbers. I'd wager your opinions have little effect on anything.

*the only good FF's and worth playing all the way through

It's just my opinion and like koehler sais die hards dont care.

I'm one of the people that got the PS3 for the FF series in particular (as I've said before). So people can talk all the trash about the series that they want, but there are people out there who like it and will buy consoles for it.

Also, how did FF12 suck ass? Besides you just having the need to be inflammatory - do you have any reasoning for that theory?

Dude, I used to love FF and other JRPGs. As I've gotten older, though, and make more money, the draw of the JRPG is fading away. I used to like a FF (or other JRPG) because I knew that:

A.) The game would last long enough to justify the $50 I just spent on it.
B.) I had few other games or other obligations to take up my time... therefore the 80+ hour timesink was totally possible.

Now, with a family, I can only play in short stretches late at night, and with a good income, I'm already sitting on 6 games that I haven't quite finished yet. Don't get me wrong, I would love another FF, but I didn't have the time to get through XII, nor could I completely stay awake through cutscenes and level grinds late at night after working all day. I don't think that XIII will be any different.

The system sellers for me will be GoW3 and Ueda's new title. I have a feeling that they will be both be beautiful, engaging, and be the perfect length.

I have a lot of obligations as well, but that hasn't made me lose interest in games I enjoy. I just accepted that I can't do 12 hr sessions with them long ago. I haven't been able to do that since law school. So I take my time with most of them, and thus have a huge backlog of games to get to at home.

hasnt been a GOOD FF since FF6. FF7 was a joke. Lots of kids liked it...but lots of kids like halo. Figure that one out

I'll tell you what... with the way Square's president has been talking I would actually be surprised if it was only on PS3 at this point. Especially since Sony claims it's so easy to port a PS3 game over to the 360. Square is not growing as a company and have horrible sales numbers in the west. Make no mistake; they will milk this cow until it’s a shattered husk. If they think they could get at least 500,000 360 sales they will port it.

@NATO-duke,

Don't get me wrong - I didn't plan to loose interest in JRPGs - far from it. It just sort of happened. I feel old.