Does Fernando REALLY needs his own defense force? really..

He seems to do a good enough job of that by himself

That's why he needs one, everyone hates on him.

=p

If you haven't noticed, we have a pretty good reason to hate on him.

It's not hating on someone when you dislike what they say because they act like a 12 year old.

When Fernando is prepared to grow up, I'm prepared to like him.

I actually read the comments on PS3 posts to watch the hilarity.

This is becoming a spam chain very fast...

GOGOGO

Sorry guys, but I have a policy against e-dick sucking.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to -1 every post I see of yours, Phillip, until you ditch the Fernando Defense Force tag.

Can I keep my defence force tag?

out with the nerd points, in with the nerd cups?!?!?!?

So? For some people...not for you. So let those people enjoy the game that they want to. You can enjoy it the way you want to. Tada.

Pfft! Get over it Dave, now bring on the silly (and absolutely useless) trophies!

So... you get to enjoy games the way you want to, but other people can't? That's like saying that you don't like sprinkles (jimmies) on your ice cream, but other people do. So you don't want there to be any sprinkles (jimmies) in the world so that other people won't start enjoying sprinkles (jimmies)

Somebody really likes jimmies!

Hey Dave, seriously, you sound like a real jerk with your posts busting on 360 users and achievements. How did you become so much better than the rest of us?

If you are so much cooler and dont need to impress people with trophies then you won't have to worry about them, or the lack of them, appearing in your profile.

I found that achievements helped me get rid of my addiction to using cheat codes. I haven't used a single one while playing GTA4 so far, eventually on a 2nd play through I will cheat to have some fun.

Addiction to gamerscore is more productive than cheating IMO.

They're gonna call them Fernandoments.

Because they are only for the greatest of attention whores

Nice... Maybe I will buy a PS3!

=p

zing a zing zing!!!!

Philip is slacking

That's what I found very funny, and kinda pathetic.

I never attack anyone of you, never. Don't insult anyone of you, just the PS3, but you guys likes to bash me, to my person.

That makes me laugh.

=p

Then why suggest them?

achievements is the golden name then? i supposed if MS called in anything else, it would be the golden name for you?

why must you hate EVERYTHING that sony does? did they rape you were you little?

here's and achievement for you

Acheivement Unlocked: Fail at Life

I didn't know that having my own busines, in my home, with two workers, and a lot of free time was Fail at Life.

"I never attack anyone of you, never. Don't insult anyone of you, just the PS3, but you guys likes to bash me, to my person."

You attack and troll the PS3 because you don't like the PS3.

People attack and troll YOU because they don't like YOU.

Which is dumber, trolling an inanimate object or trolling a person that intentionally gets on your nerves everyday?

You get your parents to post your eBay's off for you?

Lol I've always wondered that as well...

Nothing can beat that feeling of knowing you just earned a chevo...

whoa!!!! Fernando, you mean to tell me that you are an ADULT???! I thought you were just some retarded little teenager. I didn't realize you were an adult and had nothing better to do but bash anything that involves sony.

you really did fail at life.

@cc123

"Which is dumber, trolling an inanimate object or trolling a person that intentionally gets on your nerves everyday?"

Actually, caring enough about commentors on blogs to the degree that you allow them to get on your nerves is dumber than either of the options you gave cc123 ;)

Not worth it. =)

And so I shall exile the wicked spammer to thy fires of hell where it shall not corrupt our mortal souls with repetitive messages and or fraudulent sites.
-Internet Bible Chapter 3,page 78:3

Thy internet hell where spammers crawl, fanboys angst and twist in anger, furf*gs yiff and Spartans have their Dinner I shall now shall proceed to exile you there for enternity (Two hours or so).

*Marks as Spam.


Seriously people I have enough with the damn intel ads poping every 10 seconds or so why the hell you keep posting the same Walmart offer again and again?

Are those humming bird ads for intel? I had no idea, shows you how effective they are intel.

Prehaps if joystiq wont remove it, intel will knowing how they are making us hate their products.

Problem as I see it is that he's a person and the PS3 is a machine. Him busting on it is an annoyance to you, but doesn't stop you from using and enjoying it. You calling him names is more than an annoyance.

Personally attacking him as a failure in life is entirely uncool when he doesn't say such thngs about other people. I see people like Name123 who call people names, swear and are filled with hate for all others, I don't see that in Fernando.

Well said, NATO. The ambiguity of the internet really does seem to cause many posters to reduce people to lifeless entities when that's just not the case.

I have no problem with what he posts and where he does it. However if hes going to be a one beat drummer and criticize the same thing over in troll like fashion then hes going to have to take the heat when dished back. Its obviously trolling at its worse, as someone else has mentioned, can he ever say anything constructive or positive? Or is it he appears only in PS3 articles to spew an agenda....WHICH IS FINE mind you. Just deal with the fact that people who own the PS3 and look forward to supporting their purchase might see Fernando as attacking their purchase and therefore see it as a criticism on them. Now it might become a personal matter for that person. So just as he has the right to attack what he wants, so should they have the ability to say something back

If he was giving a constructive insight or opinion, and hell if even owned one, i think some people might be more tolerable. He doesnt obviously, and has an agenda. Whats wrong if someone doesnt agree with HIS agenda?

...how/why the hell did this topic turn into a lengthy Fernando discussion?

You guys are acting as if Fernando was a normal person on here and that we should be mindful of his feelings. Here I'll show you who Fernando Rocker really is:

"I hope that this game fails, together with MGS4 and Killzone 2 (really)"

"But I'm not trolling... I'm saying what I really want to happen... I want that the PS3 fails (more than now)..."

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/01/27/ffxiii-designer-promises-demo-2008-release-date/

Is he being mindful to the developers that are putting in thousands of hours into these games? No, he wants them and their games to fail because they are not on his chosen consoles. That's about as bad a fanboy as there can be.

"I see people like Name123 who call people names, swear and are filled with hate for all others, I don't see that in Fernando."

Fernando is filled with hate towards the games, developers, and fans of anything Sony. When he shits up thread after thread that is Sony related is he at all concerned with the fans that like to read those threads? No. Just because he doesn't call people on here names doesn't make him any different than trolls like Name123.

cc123, I see what you are saying, but i can't agree that because he has a problem with some games or Sony, that he is suddenly open to comments like he often gets.

His hate for Sony doesn't seem the same as contempt for people in my book. Yeah, I don't share his ill will for some consoles, and it makes no sense to me, but he's an alright guy from my experience, who shys away from calling anyone 4 letter words and the like - in fact, he seems to limit himself from talking about people as a whole doesn't he? Hell, he doesn't even get as mad as I do when some of these people start calling others names and such.

Talking sh*t about a machine is, like I said, totally different than just talking sh*t about a person.

Nato, i dont think when people use curse words it means they are foaming at the mouth pounding on the keyboards when typing a response. I dont think people should abuse other people on this board or any other board for that matter....however,

i feel he gets his kicks off of it. Its definitely a pattern forming with his posts especially on PS3 threads. I wouldnt know him as a "good guy" (thought he was a 14 year old) because i dont look at threads that dont pertain to my interest. PS3 pertains to my interest 90% of the time, and if that article is positive or negative, i have noticed he is there to give his agenda. He has that right tho.

The point i think you are missing, is that it often can ruin a discussion or gathering of opinions when he comes with the same ole bullshit. It gets some people riled up because its a continuous thing, its even expected now. Then the topic, like this thread turns to him and is unreadable. Again, i think he gets a kick out of riling some people up. Its his right to do it, but dont mask it with, well its not people its a product hes talking about. People invest time, money and their lives into gaming, and i think some people take his constant troll like behavior as a slap at them.....well all im saying is they have the right to slap back then.

This is just what im noticing in my short time on this website.

@NATO

I understand what you're saying but what I don't get is how you guys expect people to react to him.

Sometimes it feels like Fernando is the annoying child of someone you know. You have to keep your mouth shut while the kid runs a muck. And it seems like the people on here that have a sweet spot for him expect those of us that don't to just smile and look the other way.

So how to deal with Fernando...There is no ignore feature here so that's out. You can't avoid his comments because they're everywhere. There usually is no rational or logical response to most of his trolling so trying to have a discussion with him is pointless. If he hasn't been permanently banned by now he's never going to be. So my question to you is how should we deal with his never ending nonsense?

And please don't say ignore him cause we both know that will never happen.

Sorry, but I can't tell you how to deal with him - that's just not an ability I have. We all deal with what annoys us differently. I sometimes will say to him that I think hes full of it or wrong, but I don't need to go too much farther than that in a response. I just think that people take it too far with him.

If you want me to say, "OK, I see what you're saying - go ahead and call the guy a failure and talk shit about his mom." then I have to disappoint you. I think it's undeserved to talk to him like that.

I didn't see a lot of ubber pro-Sony people jump in to tell Krazy Ken to shut up or die when he would launch copy/paste tirades in every post on the 360 and Wii – nonstop. He was maddening with that crap, and yet he would get up voted when we would tell him to relax with it. He would say nasty personal crap about me and others and get upvoted. He would do something like post blu-ray specs in a Gears of War story and would get upvoted. So, when you talk about how Fernando deserves it for his comments – I see it as a bit slanted.

There is a limit, such as when Name123 talked about placing us in concentration camps and such.

I don’t think any of us need to be going that far.

"If you want me to say, "OK, I see what you're saying - go ahead and call the guy a failure and talk shit about his mom." then I have to disappoint you. I think it's undeserved to talk to him like that."

Uh...thats not what I was going for at all, my question was actually serious and I just wanted to get the input of someone with your viewpoint.

"Sorry, but I can't tell you how to deal with him - that's just not an ability I have. We all deal with what annoys us differently."

Yup and some people choose to deal with it by tearing into him. They then have to hear it from Fernando Defenders about how they're wrong, but these defenders never offer any solution to the problem either. They just derail the thread further.

"I didn't see a lot of ubber pro-Sony people jump in to tell Krazy Ken to shut up or die when he would launch copy/paste tirades in every post on the 360 and Wii – nonstop."

Works both ways. Fernando defenders always lean towards consoles other than Sony because they aren't the ones being annoyed by his antics.

"So, when you talk about how Fernando deserves it for his comments – I see it as a bit slanted. "

I think if your a troll you open yourself up to being attacked not matter what side you're on. People are not required deal with a trolls crap yet it seems like that's what some of you want (with Fernando especially). I don't recall seeing Krazy Ken defenders either.

"There is a limit, such as when Name123 talked about placing us in concentration camps and such.

I don’t think any of us need to be going that far. "

I agree that there's a limit and this definitely crosses it. I missed it and I'm surprised he's still around after posting that.


Fernando makes himself fair game by constantly annoying a large group of people that like to read Joystiq on a daily basis. If he doesn't want personal attacks thrown at him he can very simply stop trolling.

Listen: all of you are fucking retarded. The amount of people bashing fernando far exceeds the amount of trolling posts he has ever made and, frankly, reading you cretins attack someone because he annoys you gives me the impression you're all 12. Hate on tmcarjordanwhatever: he's a douchebag. Hate on killjebus: he's a jackass.
But really the only reason Fernando has given you to even consider posting negatively on him is that he's a bit over zealous and sometimes posts irrelevant ps3 hate in a thread. He has never, to my knowledge, even insulted one of you dumbasses. That shows the patience of a saint in my opinion.
And yes, insulting another human being because you find them "annoying" is much more pathetic then saying you don't like a hunk of plastic. Hell, it's almost as pathetic as me wasting 3 minutes writing this over-serious post. Also, I don't know how to use hyphens.

@cc123,

"I understand what you're saying but what I don't get is how you guys expect people to react to him"

Really? How about don't feed the trolls?

-or-

If that's too hard, then how about you try coming at him with logic? Flamebait fanboy comments can usually be shut down pretty quickly with logic; on the other hand personal attacks drag things out and ultimately make the person making said attacks look like MORE of a dick than the original troll (since the original troll wasn't making personal attacks, and in the case of Fernando afaik doesn't resort to them even when the SDF begins cutting him down.

I hope you understand that those of us who are defending Fernando aren't necessarily fans of his; we're just not cruel enough to think that personal attacks are justified no matter how much he insults the inanimate objects that you're a fan of.