Metal Gear Retrospective: Part Four slithers back to the '60s

agreed, all the retrospectives that I have watched are top notch, but this one had to have been the most difficult.

12th June indeed, i wonder how the lisbon vote will go!


...oh theres something gaming related too?

Man... next week can't arrive fast enough. XD

MGS 4 takes place 5 years after 2 and Solid Snake looks easily 30 years older. I have always wondered about the cloning project that created Solid, Liquid, and Solidus. Solidus looked like he was in his late forties or fifties. I wonder if he was the first and the rest came a few years later? Just some speculation for those interested in the overall store.

Non MGS fanatics commence flaming.

store = story. should have proof read. my bad.

kaneda: Liquid mentions near the begining of MGS2 (in the final cut scene of the Tanker mission) that the cloning process was flawed. After seeing his brother, he declares that Snake "hasn't aged well" and says that as Big Boss was "already in his fifties" when they cloned him, the Sons of Big Boss are flawed.

As I understand it, all the clones were born at the same time, so Solidus was the same age as Solid. I guess the premature aging hit him harder.

I recall it now that you have mentioned it. I kinda considered that line an attempt at an insult. Snake would have been in his mid thirties and looked it in my opinion. It's probably just the smokes. But I think you are right about their aging at different rates.

Of course we are talking sci-fi, so laws of real cloning do not apply, but I never really considered these 3 to be identical twins. Liquid stated that solid is all dominant genes where Liquid is all recessive, which is only evident through Liquid's blond hair, but then Naomi turns it around to say that Liquid had it backwards. What ever. The point is, they never really address (to my knowledge) what concoction of Big Boss Solidus is. Though the definition of the word Solidus might shed some light on why he was so unstable, in clone terms (deteriorated so quickly).

"Solidus - The maximum temperature at which all components of a mixture (such as an alloy) can be in a solid state. Above the solidus some or all of the mixture will be in a liquid state."

Man, I just know I'm gonna get flamed for geeking out so deeply about the story here.

Oh shit! Snake's a clone?

SPOILAR ALURT!

Solidus is described in MGS" (and hinted at the end of MGS1) as being a 'well balanced mix'.

So, Liquid was the strong one, Solid the weak one, and Solidus balanced.

I agree. It's definately the best on released so far.

I'm sorry but I will have to disagree. The first Metal Gear Solid on the PSONE was the best. Do you remember the opening scence when you were playing the game and credits were rolling... Great touch...

MGS1 was good for its time - it's my favourite game on the PS1 - but it cannot stand up to MGS3. It has way to many flaws, most notably the fact that it's insanely easy to avoid ever being seen (something MGS3 remedies thankfully remedies).

There's always someone saying that for each of the games lol

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/05/18/metal-gear-retrospective-part-two-sneaks-into-the-ps1-era/#c12201543

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/05/25/metal-gear-retrospective-part-three-explores-the-big-shell-inci/#c12309792

Best part: I bet mgs4 will be 'the best' too.

MGS1 is a great game too. But 3 was just so refreshing, it's a great spin on the MGS series. Plus the story was fantastic so many great moments.

@jcd:

I think MGS _2_ was the best.

*ducks for cover*

No wai! The Twin Snakes was the best!

*triple backflips in slow motion into cover*

I gotta agree with kaneda, 2 was the best for me. 4 looks unbelievable though.

I am with you 100%. Loved the star wars retros, whyever did they stop them? They didn't even mention KoTOR. Bastards :(

Here's an interesting thought:

What if Solidus is actually a direct biological descendant of Big Boss, and not a clone? If Naked Snake and EVA had a child at any point during or shortly after Snake Eater, that child would be about ten years older than Solid and Liquid, making him about 45 years old during the plant chapter.

And EVA wants Solid Snake to call her Big Mama in MGS4. Or is she the surrogate mother of all the Snakes?

Goddamnit June 12, get here already. Kojima, you so krazy.