Ninja Gaiden II demo slashes North America

The demo makes me want to buy, even though I'd rather support Itagaki and not buy it. Gamefly still hasn't sent it...and I'm getting itchy....mmmm....

Go buy it. I've only gotten a little time to play it, but the Falcon talons or whatever are seriously one of the best video game weapons ever.

Also, SPOILER:





Kusarigama. Thats all I'm saying.

The camera is broken. It wasn't such a problem in NGB because most environments were wide open. In NG2, you often fight in confined areas, plus the obliteration techniques constantly switch the camera around. It requires some blind slashing once in a while, but it's still awesome.

That being said, I still really enjoy it, but I still think NGB is a better experience - although I'm only on chapter 3, so...

I played the demo: every five seconds you have to press R trigger. But that's not that bad if the game was actually fair; it's almost as if the camera is an enemy unto itself.

Example: you're walking, fighting ninjas, and all that. Suddenly, there's a ninja duo hiding behind a wall. Ok, I'll press R so I can see them. But then the camera gets stuck in a wall.

???

What's up with that? Meanwhile, the enemies have slashed away three or four times at me leaving Ryu with critical health. I'm not saying it's a bad game, in fact I'll probably buy it when the price drops, just don't expect to have fun in small enclosed areas. I would even argue that Ninja Gaiden Black had a better camera.

try it without pressing RT - the camera's fine IMO - gets stuck occassonally but an RT will sort that out.

my major issue is the difficulty levels of the bosses - it doesnt seem to be in keeping with the rest of the game - ie. bosses are extremely hard [even on Acolyte] & all other enemies are easy to beat.

The camera is broken end of discussion. Yuu can argue other things make up for it but for me it's enough to forgo even renting the game.

The camera is probably about as good as it could possibly be. It's a tradeoff...you get frenetic action, at the expense of a camera that you have to fight at times. If only it could switch to an infront view when you enter a new room (so you could see yourself coming in, and the enemies that were waiting). Oh well, the game is still ridiculously awesome.

Someone else was correct in saying that the camera isn't any worse from the original, but that the indoor environments make it stand out more as a problem.

All of that said, the camera is customizable in the menu before you start the game (in-game when you could see the changes you've made in action would have been a nice design choice...but...whatever). So you can absolutely try to tweak it to your personal preferences. I'll admit that you shouldn't have to, but Ninja Gaiden is still the premiere (IMO) game out of the three juggernauts in it's genre (Devil May Cry and God of War being the other two).

"The camera is probably about as good as it could possibly be."

No, it's not even close. It's constantly too low to see where you're going in the first few chapters (causing me to miss quite a few jumps since I couldn't tell there was a hole in the ground), random objects on the side of the level keep obscuring your view (like the fence posts at the beginning of the first level), and certain wall jump areas have the camera completely freak out and glitch through walls and stuff.

If you want to see how good the camera *could* have been with a little more time in the oven, play through the end of chapter 4 and marvel at how many of the special platforming areas have unique camera angles built-in. The camera is significantly better in chapter 4 than it is in the first three chapters.

The menu has an option to move the camera higher. I know it's inexcusable for them to think people will quit out of their game, go back to the menu, and then to options, to toggle the setting that makes it happen, but it's atleast an option.

First complaint I've heard about the camera being too low, but I guess team ninja thought that some might feel that way, and added the menu setting. For me, I'd have liked some way for the game to hold off on sending enemies your way till you can actually see inside the room you've just entered, but I thought the height of the camera was fine. All in all, NGII's camera seems more zoomed into Ryu by default than the original (maybe it's just my imagination).

I thought you could switch the camera just by pressing the back button and going into the system menu lol.

"The menu has an option to move the camera higher"

Really? Man, I should have used that earlier.

And yeah, the camera is definitely closer to Ryu in this game. I guess they wanted to show off all the extra detail!

This is the part where I bang my head into the wall. Why the hell is that not in the start menu? Who would think "Oh! Maybe the back button brings up a menu!" Gahhhh.

if it's so broken why hasn't it been fixed in 2 games and 2 expansions?

This game rocks running out and buying it. Nice way to cool off in this NYC heat!

Did you play GTA IV??

i think the camera sucks; its just terrible.. i can see whats going on 60% of the time but in small rooms, hallways, corners or anywhere that isnt wide open, enemies got lost off screen behind walls, up stairs or ladders, behind pillars, its ridiculous. its not quite enough to ruin the game for a hardcore user but its MORE than adequate to discourage a new player from even renting it..

i dont think ive seen a worse camera in a 'modern' video game (i dont count sigma, that was last gen material)

Sony Fangirls? *facepalm* How can you not realize how moronic this comment makes you sound? At any rate, I agree. The camera can be finicky at times, but it's not a gamebreaker by any means. Good game.

I feel your pain, but let me assure you that the game is SO worth buying. There's absolutely no need to wait for access to the demo; you NEED this game.