Ever since the passing of controversial anti-Ninja legislation, importing Japan's deadliest natural resource into the States is a near-impossible process. Luckily, the Federal Trade Commission has recognized that Ninja Gaiden II is not an actual ninja, but instead, a circular platter of polycarbonate encapsulated in a decorated box and an irritating plastic sheath. They also noted that the ninja on the cover is an illustrated ninja, who poses little to no risk of flipping out and killing you in your sleep.
Thus, Ninja Gaiden II was cleared to launch in North America just in time for its June 3 release date -- though it took Team Ninja much longer to convince the FTC that the game's demo was not some sort of digital assassin, sent to kill the internets. Luckily, that bit of confusion was resolved today, and the Ninja Gaiden II demo is now available on Xbox Live. Conveniently enough, we can think of no better way of venting our anger over the demo's North American delay than to dismember some minions with frightening bladed weaponry.
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Posted: Jun 7th 2008 1:15PM (Unverified) said
I think you meant delightful. Too bad the camera is broken.
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Posted: Jun 7th 2008 1:14PM Misfit Toy said
Picked this game up the other day. Only put in about 20 minutes, but it seems fun so far, and easier than NG 1...thankfully.
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Posted: Jun 7th 2008 3:08PM (Unverified) said
Now that must be a joke... LoL... Seriously, i played NG1 but i must say that NG2 either is more difficult or a lot CHEAPER (A.I) but its kicking my Arse... & i was pretty good at NG1 in all settings... This game is BADASS but is The A.I. is so cheap, especially the Bosses... This is how it goes: 100 enemies, Mini-Boss, 100 enemies, Big Boss = Dead 20 times... hmmm... or is it just me... LoL... :(
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Posted: Jun 7th 2008 4:30PM (Unverified) said
In normal mode, the game isn't too hard, yet. The only boss that has given me issues so far is the chapter 3 boss...took me forever to figure out how to not die. But this game kicks ass... Seriously, if anyone is on the fence about buying this, freaking buy it. When you're playing a game for a few hours straight and have no idea where the time went, thats when you know a game is good.
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Posted: Jun 9th 2008 3:46AM (Unverified) said
The first level is more of a tutorial to the basics of the game. The game gets much harder as you progress through. I wouldn't go as far as calling the game cheap though. It's just hard. What some people seem to call cheap, I call challenging. If the game gets cheap once then you can expect it the next time, because in NG there will be points in the game where you will die over and over and over again.
So far I absolutely love the game. I just beat the second Test of Valor and the 4th chapter on Warrior Mode and am getting ready to start Chapter 5.
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So far I absolutely love the game. I just beat the second Test of Valor and the 4th chapter on Warrior Mode and am getting ready to start Chapter 5.
Posted: Jun 7th 2008 1:17PM (Unverified) said
Two sigs Lord Bowser let's get the entire Joystiq army on this one...
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Posted: Jun 7th 2008 1:24PM (Unverified) said
Thank you, we need more brave people like you to fight the good fight for Our Uwe.
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Posted: Jun 7th 2008 2:20PM killr0y said
Just got done eviscerating a whole lotta ninja.. This game is a lot of fun.. The camera isn't as broken as the haters on here, who most likely never played the game, try to lead on.
Its pretty astonishing how this game can capture the feeling of being a human blender.
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Its pretty astonishing how this game can capture the feeling of being a human blender.
Posted: Jun 9th 2008 3:50AM (Unverified) said
Agreed. The camera is exactly how it was in NG1, yet NG1 got 9.5+ out of 10 from just about everyone who reviewed it. Due to the scale of some of the battles and the number of enemies attacking at once, the all encompassing view that most of the negative reviewers call for simply just isn't possible. My guess is they were trying to play through the game real quick to meet a deadline for a review, got frustrated because they couldn't beat it, and gave it a bad score because of it.
That must be why games like COD4 that have super-long 6 hour campaigns that play themselves practically get 10/10's.
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That must be why games like COD4 that have super-long 6 hour campaigns that play themselves practically get 10/10's.
Posted: Jun 9th 2008 4:15AM (Unverified) said
Dude, COD4's campaign on any difficulty kicks ass. The fuck you talkin' bout, plays itself? On recruit, a difficulty explicitly stated as the EASIEST, the game's fun and unchallenging. On veteran, damned if you can actually pass it. I loved every minute of that campaign, regardless of difficulty. I'm pretty sure reviewers didn't give it high scores because it was easy on recruit. Maybe it was the superb gameplay, wonderful set pieces and good story/entertaining dialogue. And a fun multiplayer.
Don't even get me started on the notion that reviewers give games a bad score because they themselves suck at the game. Bullshit man, and you're gonna have to find a better reason than that to bash COD4.
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Don't even get me started on the notion that reviewers give games a bad score because they themselves suck at the game. Bullshit man, and you're gonna have to find a better reason than that to bash COD4.
Posted: Jun 7th 2008 2:25PM (Unverified) said
I bought the game yesterday, its bloody awesome! The camera is not that big a deal. Fuck reviewers, not once have I said "oh man this camera is frustrating" like they say.
NG Sigma & NG2 >>>>> DMC series
Glad I passed on that boring ass game.
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NG Sigma & NG2 >>>>> DMC series
Glad I passed on that boring ass game.
Posted: Jun 9th 2008 3:53AM (Unverified) said
Agreed. I gave DMC4 a shot because all the PS fanboys always said I should give it a try. I played it for a while and got bored with it. I was expecting another NG, and it was far from it.
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Posted: Jun 7th 2008 2:47PM (Unverified) said
Redundancy of a Demo being released after the full game: 87%.
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Posted: Jun 9th 2008 4:16AM (Unverified) said
Agreed. I'm sure this isn't news. The game's out, nuff said.
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Posted: Jun 8th 2008 10:19PM (Unverified) said
Gah! The camera is HORRIBLE. Glad I played the demo first. I gotta say meh. I would much rather a 2D Ninja Gaiden any day of the week over the newly 3D ones. Although I do love the wall running, but it's always better when a Jedi does it ;)
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Posted: Jun 7th 2008 3:03PM (Unverified) said
I am already in chapter 6 and I can tell you its a whole lot of fun. I would say that its as hard as the first one.
The camera is not really an issue. I think is the same camera as the first one, and no one bitched so much about it like they are on this one. Like Fenix said, I am almost half way through the game and I have not had any camera problems.
PS: 10 times more fun than DMC4. And bloody as hell. :)
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The camera is not really an issue. I think is the same camera as the first one, and no one bitched so much about it like they are on this one. Like Fenix said, I am almost half way through the game and I have not had any camera problems.
PS: 10 times more fun than DMC4. And bloody as hell. :)
Posted: Jun 7th 2008 3:33PM DeadPlasmaCell said
Cool news, but I got my copy from GameFly today not 5 minutes after I downloaded the demo!
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Posted: Jun 7th 2008 3:34PM Spunky Monkey 190906 said
And Europe? Or do we wait for last as usual.
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Posted: Jun 7th 2008 4:42PM (Unverified) said
Nigeria, you're full of shit. It's not "rather flawed". Thats a bloody lie (no pun intended). And contrary to what you said, if you played the first and liked it, definitely play the sequel. You make it seem like people should just pass it up...
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Posted: Jun 7th 2008 5:09PM Nigeria said
I say: if you haven't played the original then go out and buy the sequel because it's a good game.
But if you've played Gaiden/Black/Sigma then you shouldn't feel no rush to purchase this version. Wait for a price drop.
To me, this version feels sterile and cold. There's no character. Though, I was just judging from the demo. I could elaborate further on my thoughts but I don't have the will to qualify them at the moment.
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But if you've played Gaiden/Black/Sigma then you shouldn't feel no rush to purchase this version. Wait for a price drop.
To me, this version feels sterile and cold. There's no character. Though, I was just judging from the demo. I could elaborate further on my thoughts but I don't have the will to qualify them at the moment.
Posted: Jun 7th 2008 4:55PM xThePunisherx said
Wasn't going to pick it up (NGS too hard :( ) but now i'm having second thoughts. Althought the camera is a big problem in parts, it's still fine. Maybe when it hits $40, i'll pick it up.
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Posted: Jun 7th 2008 5:12PM Vcize said
Wow, I wasn't expecting much because I played through the Sigma demo and didn't really like it, but I just played through the NG2 demo and REALLY enjoyed it. That was easily the most fun I've had in a hack n' slash since the God of War 1 demo came out. Good stuff. I'm surprised this thing is only averaging ~80's unless the full game just doesn't deliver what the demo looks like it will.
Maybe the full game is worse than the demo, but I didn't see what people were complaining about with the camera at all. It was very easy to control, and there were only 1 or 2 times where I really had to adjust it at all and a simple tap of RT did that. I dunno if the people complaining about the camera are people that normally stick to RTS games or turn based RPGs because they just don't have any twitch control at all or something, because anyone that's ever played an FPS should easily be able to keep up with the camera here.
In short, if the camera in this demo gives you a problem then you're probably better off sticking to turn based stuff. I'd imagine my wife who can't stop her FPS character from looking straight up into the sky when she tries to move around would have trouble with the camera in NG2, but I can't see how anyone any more adept at games than her would have a problem with it.
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Maybe the full game is worse than the demo, but I didn't see what people were complaining about with the camera at all. It was very easy to control, and there were only 1 or 2 times where I really had to adjust it at all and a simple tap of RT did that. I dunno if the people complaining about the camera are people that normally stick to RTS games or turn based RPGs because they just don't have any twitch control at all or something, because anyone that's ever played an FPS should easily be able to keep up with the camera here.
In short, if the camera in this demo gives you a problem then you're probably better off sticking to turn based stuff. I'd imagine my wife who can't stop her FPS character from looking straight up into the sky when she tries to move around would have trouble with the camera in NG2, but I can't see how anyone any more adept at games than her would have a problem with it.
Posted: Jun 7th 2008 7:28PM ChooChooCharlie said
I agree that the game deserves better than low to mid 80s and it is a lot of fun, but be warned that the demo is not very indicative of the actual game's difficulty. The fact that they only allow you to play on Acolyte and give you maxed out weapons from the start will give you a somewhat skewed impression of the game. NG2 is easier than NG/Black/Sigma due to the recharging health system, but it is still rough in spots.
Overall, though, I haven't had too much trouble with the camera and I'm on Chapter 8 / 14.
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Overall, though, I haven't had too much trouble with the camera and I'm on Chapter 8 / 14.
Posted: Jun 9th 2008 4:00AM (Unverified) said
I disagree about the health system. What you fail to mention is the fact that the amount of health that you can gain back decreases with the more damage you take. Also, due to the health regeneration and the healing at the save points, health items are much more difficult to come by. Also, healing items are MUCH more expensive at Muramusa's shop. In the first game, a basic health elixir was 500 essence. In this one they are 3000 essence.
I think the health regen makes it easier to get through the different parts of the levels, but when you encounter parts of the game like the Tests of Valor where you are facing 100+ enemies nonstop the health regen is completely useless to you and health items are necessary.
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I think the health regen makes it easier to get through the different parts of the levels, but when you encounter parts of the game like the Tests of Valor where you are facing 100+ enemies nonstop the health regen is completely useless to you and health items are necessary.
Posted: Jun 7th 2008 7:06PM (Unverified) said
"Demo was released during the week. It's bloody, but rather flawed. If you played the original you've played the sequel"
I do no agree, chapter 10 and 11 alone shit all over black and sigma.
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I do no agree, chapter 10 and 11 alone shit all over black and sigma.
Posted: Jun 7th 2008 7:30PM (Unverified) said
Interesting enough I finished Sigma just a couple days ago and picked up NG2 yesterday. Instantly there is a level of polish that you can easily see in NG2 over Sigma. Next thing you see is the amount of enemies on screen. I like how they changed the health bar which does make the game easier then Black but it's not like it's a cake walk because the enemies are more aggressive.
At first I was saying cheap but I found that you need to use all your Ninja techniques and never stay still. You really have to use your obliteration techniques as well as your ultimate’s.
The 3rd boss was a bitch, and that’s all I will say about that bum
I love devil may cry and GOD of War but neither come close to the difficulty and speed of NG2. If Ryu is on the ground for more then a second during battle then you are not playing NG2 at it's fullest.
I have found that certain weapons work better with certain characters and switching it up is always a joy.
NG2 is just like NG1 but with a lot of little tweaks that raises the bar. God of War 2 was pretty much the same way. Tweaks that made the game better but nothing that broke the combat which is the star in these types of games.
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At first I was saying cheap but I found that you need to use all your Ninja techniques and never stay still. You really have to use your obliteration techniques as well as your ultimate’s.
The 3rd boss was a bitch, and that’s all I will say about that bum
I love devil may cry and GOD of War but neither come close to the difficulty and speed of NG2. If Ryu is on the ground for more then a second during battle then you are not playing NG2 at it's fullest.
I have found that certain weapons work better with certain characters and switching it up is always a joy.
NG2 is just like NG1 but with a lot of little tweaks that raises the bar. God of War 2 was pretty much the same way. Tweaks that made the game better but nothing that broke the combat which is the star in these types of games.
Posted: Jun 7th 2008 7:32PM (Unverified) said
I also have to chime in on the camera. Right Trigger handles pretty much all the situations where the camera can get itself in a bad spot but even so, I haven't had to use it that often. I really do not see what the big deal is and all the complaining about the camera.
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Posted: Jun 7th 2008 9:33PM Vcize said
Agree, to me the whole camera debate stinks of one of those situations where a reviewer mentioned it and a bunch of people that wanted to hate the game before ever playing it decided to run with it.
The camera is no worse than the camera in a hundred other games I've played, including many very highly rated games like SM64/SMG.
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The camera is no worse than the camera in a hundred other games I've played, including many very highly rated games like SM64/SMG.
Posted: Jun 8th 2008 5:36AM (Unverified) said
I think reviewers kill ninja gaiden 2, playing NJ2 with the kusari gama make GOd of war gameplay look like poop.
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Posted: Jun 8th 2008 11:33AM Domicinator said
Yeah, this game is really hard, but also really amazing. And it reminds me a lot of God of War. There is really good combat action and some really mild puzzle solving, which usually comes in the form of figuring out where you're supposed to go next.
The biggest criticism it's getting is that the camera is annoying, but I don't find it to be that big of a deal. It hasn't caused me any real problems yet. All you have to do is hit right trigger to re-center the camera anyway. Yeah, it would be nice if the game would just do that for you, but it's a minor complaint in my eyes.
I think the boss at the end of level 2 was pretty brutal, and has been described as one of the toughest bosses ever, but I actually figured out a really easy way to beat him.
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The biggest criticism it's getting is that the camera is annoying, but I don't find it to be that big of a deal. It hasn't caused me any real problems yet. All you have to do is hit right trigger to re-center the camera anyway. Yeah, it would be nice if the game would just do that for you, but it's a minor complaint in my eyes.
I think the boss at the end of level 2 was pretty brutal, and has been described as one of the toughest bosses ever, but I actually figured out a really easy way to beat him.
Posted: Jun 8th 2008 2:47PM (Unverified) said
This game deserves a 7. Oh yeah the graphics are pretty and so are the moves. But ultimately when you peel the layers back. The game just repeats itself over and over again. Move a few steps. Fight enemies. Move a few steps. Fight enemies etc. Most of the enemies look alike too. This game works better as an arcade game, but for 59.99 home game and no real lasting appeal. I'll pass on this one.
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Posted: Jun 9th 2008 4:10AM (Unverified) said
I disagree. You are entitled to your opinion but I feel like you are basically simplifying to its basics to try and make it sound worse. There is much more to the game than "move a few steps, attack, repeat". In my opinion, the game is full of strategy. Attacks that require more skill often yield more essence which enables the player to purchase more items, this in turn greatly rewards those who choose to take the time to learn to play NG, and don't just button mash all day. Beyond that, item management is an essential strategy as well, and spending money to level the correct weapons at various points in the game can make fighting different enemies much easier. In addition to that, there are the tests of valor, which give experienced players a chance to be rewarded for their efforts even more by forcing them face non-stop waves of 100+ enemies. These battles also unlock achievement points that in my opinion, carry more bragging weight than unlocking all 1000 points in many other games on XB360.
If I broke all games down to the bare essentials like you have, then why does GTA4 deserve a 10/10? All you do in it is drive, shoot, repeat. Same goes for COD4. Run, shoot, repeat. Or perhaps FFVII. Run, beat battle, repeat.
You see, any game sounds horrible when you exaggerate the basic nature of said game.
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If I broke all games down to the bare essentials like you have, then why does GTA4 deserve a 10/10? All you do in it is drive, shoot, repeat. Same goes for COD4. Run, shoot, repeat. Or perhaps FFVII. Run, beat battle, repeat.
You see, any game sounds horrible when you exaggerate the basic nature of said game.
Posted: Jun 8th 2008 5:53PM (Unverified) said
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FOCKEN AWSUM!
Posted: Jun 8th 2008 5:56PM RobAccomando said
It's a possibility that the camera can be tweaked. NG1 had a patch that overhauled the camera and improved it somewhat.
Complaints from me are minimal though. I dealt with the original camera in NG1 and this seems better.
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Complaints from me are minimal though. I dealt with the original camera in NG1 and this seems better.
Posted: Jun 9th 2008 4:01AM (Unverified) said
Anyone else taking the time to do the Tests of Valor?
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Posted: Jun 10th 2008 8:55PM ChooChooCharlie said
Don't know if you'll see this reply this late after the original post, but yes.
Some of them are pretty rough, I think. 5 and 6 in particular. Just finished the final one last night :)
In response to your argument about the health regeneration. You're right, in the Tests of Valor and in the boss fights, the regen system does you absolutely no good. But I've had an extremely easy time nearly everywhere else because of it. That, in addition to the full heals at save totems, full heal/ninpo after valor tests, life refilling after you use a lives of a thousand gods, and the overabundance of essence in this game have made this game a hell of a lot easier for me than the first one was. I currently have every weapon and ninpo completely maxed out with full items and about 300,000 essence left over - and I'm only on Chp 12 on Warrior.
BTW I did beat Black on normal difficulty, but I BARELY made it through several areas. Any fights with other ninjas and the boss fights with Alma 1.0 and Marbus, in particular, had me extremely frustrated. Any slight mistake, and I was restarting from the last save point. The sequel still has some difficult bosses (like that damn worm in Chp 9), but it seems more forgiving to me overall.
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Some of them are pretty rough, I think. 5 and 6 in particular. Just finished the final one last night :)
In response to your argument about the health regeneration. You're right, in the Tests of Valor and in the boss fights, the regen system does you absolutely no good. But I've had an extremely easy time nearly everywhere else because of it. That, in addition to the full heals at save totems, full heal/ninpo after valor tests, life refilling after you use a lives of a thousand gods, and the overabundance of essence in this game have made this game a hell of a lot easier for me than the first one was. I currently have every weapon and ninpo completely maxed out with full items and about 300,000 essence left over - and I'm only on Chp 12 on Warrior.
BTW I did beat Black on normal difficulty, but I BARELY made it through several areas. Any fights with other ninjas and the boss fights with Alma 1.0 and Marbus, in particular, had me extremely frustrated. Any slight mistake, and I was restarting from the last save point. The sequel still has some difficult bosses (like that damn worm in Chp 9), but it seems more forgiving to me overall.
Posted: Jun 9th 2008 6:29AM (Unverified) said
"Ryan Hamilton
Jun 8th 2008
2:47PMThis game deserves a 7. Oh yeah the graphics are pretty and so are the moves. But ultimately when you peel the layers back. The game just repeats itself over and over again. Move a few steps. Fight enemies. Move a few steps. Fight enemies etc. Most of the enemies look alike too. This game works better as an arcade game, but for 59.99 home game and no real lasting appeal. I'll pass on this one"
I THINK YOU SHOULD GO BACK TO YOUR HOLE. I'm playing it on very hard right now and all I have to say I love this game. For those of you that doesn't know ninja gaiden 2 is a gears of war w/o gun and locust, but hacking and slashing.
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