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Posted: Jun 9th 2008 8:17PM (Unverified) said

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He has a point.

Posted: Jun 9th 2008 10:02PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah he does. While there is a small minority of hardcore gaming chicks, or even cellphone gaming chicks, the majority just aren't into video gaming the way guys are. Same with cars or jet fighters or trucks or whatever else...
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Posted: Jun 10th 2008 4:58AM (Unverified) said

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Thats more of a cultural thing than some kind of bizarre genetic hormone imbalance. Both guys and girls are expected to be certain things from a young age. In my experience this has meant two things: Either theyre never exposed to games (because theyre not seen as educational enough by the childrens parents etc), and thus never get into them and dont see the fuss- leading to a hatred of games once they start to date and get frustrated about their boyfriends hobby ( or friends, or cousins or whatever).

OR- They play games when they're kids, perhaps on their brothers console or with friends and 'grow out of it'once they hit a certain age. This again can be cultural- the age where most girls stopped gaming in my experience was when they started puberty. Most girls at that age try desperately to be seen as 'mature', and want to shed all childish things. Games are seen as something only children do (i suspect even games like GTA are tarred with this brush). They will still pick up a DS or fight over a dance mat- dont get me wrong- my non-gaming sister and her friend are like vicious beasts when i get out the guitar hero- but few will consider getting a console for themselves because of the 'geeky' or ' immature' label.

Which is why the DS and wii are SO important (and so sucessful!), they kind of bridge the gap and get rid of the 'geeky' label of gaming, making gaming seem like something healthy/additional to life as well as fun. Its not a game, its a mind exercise! its not a game, its a fitness system!

This may have changed over the years- i only know my own experiences, but in general it seems most people who dont play games only do so because they dont know what games are, they either snub them as being immature or are scared of them.

Something like 'hello kitty racing' or whatever the heck is in the OP, or all those soulless goddamn shovelware collections on wii is only going to demonise games further as being only for kids.


I wish i was less lazy last night and had put this up as my first comment, oh man, what a blown opportunity to spew the same argument every time theres a girl gaman post ;_;

/ Is female and sees games as a form of entertainment/art just like movies and music. A much more awesome form where you get to explore and control everything. and kill people. :D.

// Is currently applying for concept art jobs in the industry
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Posted: Jun 10th 2008 4:58AM (Unverified) said

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haha oh wow, long comment is long. FRONT PAGE HOG, YO
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Posted: Jun 9th 2008 8:28PM RobAccomando said

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"Better things to do"? You mean, like *talking* on the cell phone?

Posted: Jun 9th 2008 8:37PM (Unverified) said

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Or making me a sammich?
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Posted: Jun 9th 2008 11:21PM mcarage said

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or trying to avoid the same jokes being told over and over.
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Posted: Jun 9th 2008 11:25PM (Unverified) said

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Or being a buzzkill.
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Posted: Jun 9th 2008 8:28PM finnith said

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Girly games have always been really cutesy, as if the devs were using stereotypes.

Posted: Jun 9th 2008 8:52PM PoisonedAl said

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I read that there is a physiological reason girl usually don't get as much out of "standard" games. Male brians are set up to hunt, so can fixate intensely on one thing. Female brain are set to guard, so they take in the whole picture, not just one thing, keeping an eye out for a threat.

In other words, guys will watch Mario, while girls will watch the background. That's why girls get more out of games like Myst.

That and lets face it, most games are male power trips.

Posted: Jun 9th 2008 11:01PM TX2 said

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"To hunt?" Early humans where scavengers.
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Posted: Jun 9th 2008 9:02PM PoisonedAl said

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Mostly, but we wouldn't say no to something fresher (chimps are a good example of this)
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Posted: Jun 9th 2008 11:15PM TX2 said

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Until the really sharp weapons were developed, it just wasn't worth it. They mostly went for Shellfish just off the coast.
Are brains aren't set up to hunt though, their set to browse. Both Men and Women.
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Posted: Jun 9th 2008 9:07PM (Unverified) said

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'Girly games' are damn patronizing.
Not all mind you.. I do like Kingdom Hearts, but this lil Hello Kitty thing they seem to have up there is more sickening than seeing my sister barf up a load of alcohol and kebab doing one of her 'better things to do'.

We may acknowledge that we do HAVE 'better things to do' but i for one still love to sit down and veg out to some good ol' gaming. Some that ISN'T focused for females, because lets face it, any game REALLY focused for the stereotypical 'female' is just gonna be some cutesy lame ass boring game with no blood, carnage, sex or interest.

What a load of bollox i say!
I'm quite content with Sonic and Tetris.
The only Hello Kitty game i'd get is one that slaughtered the poor cat.

Posted: Jun 9th 2008 9:13PM NO DOUBT GET LOUD said

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Normally, I would have a joke related to this article, however, I am not since I want to appeal to the 100% of female joystiq readers who read my comments on a daily basis.

Posted: Jun 9th 2008 10:58PM (Unverified) said

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If you're really concerned about appeal I suggest you dumb down your comments to cater to the massive amount of 13 year olds who visit this site daily (as evidenced by any and every single 100+ comment thread).
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Posted: Jun 9th 2008 11:02PM NO DOUBT GET LOUD said

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Nah, im not serious


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Posted: Jun 9th 2008 9:14PM (Unverified) said

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Nothing wrong with making 'girly games' Mr. THQ, how about you try and not make them shit though? I think even these 'females' have a sense of what makes a reasonable quality game and it's the not the shit all you guys have been trying to sell them.

Posted: Jun 9th 2008 10:51PM (Unverified) said

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Exactly. Most games targeted at girls are total shit. This dude needs to stop making stupid excuses and make better games if he wants people to buy them.
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Posted: Jun 9th 2008 9:15PM (Unverified) said

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It's true, most games aimed at girls really are incredibly patronising. Mostly because they're aimed at *girls*, i.e, twelve year olds. Earlier today i saw two girl-oriented DS games, one called Imagine: Babies and the other, Imagine: Happy Cooking. What the hell? Because obviously, all girls want to do is have babies and cook?

A great example of a game that appeals to women without being completely patronizing stereotypical garbage is The Sims. Sure, it wasn't deliberately designed to appeal to the fairer sex, but that's basically what ended up happening.

Posted: Jun 9th 2008 9:29PM (Unverified) said

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I agree- games for girls are literally that- made for the 6 to 10 year old market. Even if they had access to a mobile phone, they can't afford to buy the games.

Now excuse me- I need to go and feed my horse. And then get ready for a hot date. But only after my High School Musical Singalong.
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Posted: Jun 9th 2008 9:29PM Trojan said

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I don't think "girl games" are really what girls are looking for. It seems to me that most women who play games gravitate towards casual games, not games specifically geared towards females.

Posted: Jun 9th 2008 9:59PM (Unverified) said

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Girls have text messaging. Why make games when they won't bother downloading them?

Posted: Jun 9th 2008 10:06PM Batzarro The worlds WOrst Detect said

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Imagine: Bringing me mah beer!

Seriously, though(yes, it WAS a joke...I don't even HAVE the beer) the priority thing can be snaked around, but most girls who play with barbies don't wanna play AS Barbie, or am I wrong? Puzzles are more up women's alley. My mom was a Tetris freak. She beat it before me!

However, it is amusing this comes from a THQ exec.

Posted: Jun 9th 2008 10:52PM (Unverified) said

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That sounds about right. lol

Posted: Jun 9th 2008 11:20PM TX2 said

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My own mother was absolutely obsessed with the game&watch stuff from the 80s and she was 30 at that time.

Posted: Jun 9th 2008 11:56PM raygungirl said

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Speaking as a girl (I'm 24, so I'm not a little girl, but whatever), I like lots of different games. I'd agree, I'm more casual than most hardcore guy gamers, but I'm more hardcore than most casual girl gamers. (Does that make any sense?)

I would say girls do like puzzle games, or like I really enjoy World of Warcraft but I don't care for PVPing so much as questing. But I also like games with a good story or just a masculine type of game that has a female protagonist, or just a co-starring female character. Sometimes it's just nice to be able to play a girl, too, and not always Mr. Beefy Shoulder Man #45. I love games where I can make my avatar look like me, even if that means making her short and kinda plump.

So I'd say a huge reason girls don't play games is because you usually play as a guy. Just like how most guys don't LOVE Disney cartoons where the main characters are princesses, you just can't help but gravitate toward something where you can identify with the character.

Also, I really like Hello Kitty - I have a sticker AND a charm on my pink DS, okay? But I doubt I'd ever pick up a Hello Kitty game unless it was basically free, especially on a phone. The quality of the games is never worth the price, so I never buy phone games, ever. Plus it runs the battery down. If I want to play a game when I'm out, I'll play it on my DS or PSP.

Also, I hate cooking and I really hate babies. However, I would play a game where you cook babies.

Posted: Jun 10th 2008 1:00AM TX2 said

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There should be a version of GTA IV where you play as a character who looks like the girl from the professional.
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Posted: Jun 10th 2008 3:05AM TX2 said

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One other thing that should be noted though: in horror movies men identify more with a female protaganist (known as the last surviving girl).
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Posted: Jun 10th 2008 3:23AM raygungirl said

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Do guys really identify with the girl, though, or do they just get a kick out of watching her suffer? (And I don't mean this in some annoying feminist way. I'm evil and sometimes I like seeing people get ripped apart. If it's a nice looking guy, like Chris Hardwick all chubbers in House of 1000 Corpses, I enjoy it more.)

If you're right though, and guys identify with a female protagonist in horror movies, that's pretty interesting. It's like, college thesis interesting. :)
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Posted: Jun 10th 2008 4:08AM TX2 said

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My reply is below
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Posted: Jun 10th 2008 1:04AM (Unverified) said

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a) 3 groups: masculine focus, general focus, feminine focus.
b) Masculine focus is easy. (basically adrenaline-based)
c) General focus is a little harder, intellectual seems closely suitable (inclusive of repetitive/rhythmic/relaxation for my purposes, basically something that involves the mind)
d) Feminine focus is tricky, emotional seems suited (The Sims, Nintendogs).
d.i) Feminine doesn't mean pink or cutesy or soft/non-violent, which is the basic fallacy many people seems to make. The simplest analogy is to reference it to other media: You've action movies (Mission Impossible), sitcoms/dramas (Forrest Gump), and gameshows/intellectual shows (Donnie Darko).

Posted: Jun 10th 2008 12:32PM (Unverified) said

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James Scalpello can lick my vagina. Yeah, I wouldn't play "girly" games on my cell phone because if I'm not at work selling video games or having an actual love life, I've got a controller in my hand.

Assholes! They're everywhere.

Posted: Jun 10th 2008 4:06AM TX2 said

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It's a kind of situation where the guy can find it easier to feel vulnerable if the character they relate to is a non-sexual girl (with a name like Chris) who upon confronting the monster at the end of the movie becomes a total BA, gets a masculine weapon of some kind and kills the monster.

Samus Aran's character was based off the final girls of Sci-Fi horror movies like Alien which is why she's received so well by male US consumers.

Posted: Jun 10th 2008 6:06AM JRMG said

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If they make a game about fashion shopping, and they can actually buy things from their cellphone, I'd say it would be popular among the girl gaming crowd.

Another good idea would be to bring over those japanese-style games where you can learn recipes, languages, wines, vocabulary expansion, GRE/GMAT training, etc. There's definitely a market for that--especially for cellphone users stuck on the subway with no reception.

Posted: Jun 10th 2008 9:38AM (Unverified) said

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I'm a female gamer, and I find almost any game "marketed to girls" as insulting. I'm not going to give money to companies that insult me.

Yes there are differences between what most girls like and what most boys like in a game. I like the social aspect of MMORPGs, which is not to say I don't enjoy the smashsmashkilling bit :p Storyline is probably more important. I also relish the opportunity to play a female character that doesn't have a pair of DD boobs in a low cut piece of "armour".

It blows my mind that marketing towards females is almost entirely "make it pink and something to do with shopping and cosmetics". Surely with such a large potential market could do some research into what women/girls *really* would enjoy in a game?

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