Though we're certain Square Enix's interpretation of words like "final" and "last" differs greatly from ours (o hai Final Fantasy XIX!), we think we're all in the same boat when it comes to "first," as in, "The Last Remnant will launch on the Xbox 360 first." Speaking at a Japanese Xbox 360 press conference (liveblogged by IGN), Square Enix revealed that the Unreal-powered RPG would be arriving on Microsoft's system first this Winter, with the PlayStation 3 version following at a later date.
The Last Remnant is still set to enjoy one of those newfangled worldwide releases, with North America, Europe and Japan receiving the Xbox 360 version simultaneously -- or at least, close to simultaneously.
well im a Playstation fan, and im saying, i dont care if 360 guys get to play it to as long as i still get to play it on my PS3 as well. Final Fantasy is one of the main reasons i own a PS3 anyway so i would be bummed if i lost it to Microsoft completely.
i dont mind sharing good games, but honestly, if MS somehow scooped FF exclusively, that would probably be the thing to make me wave the white flag and get a 360.
huh.....thats not even Final Fantasy. i dont know what i was thinking it was. oh well, i still feel the same way since it does still look pretty good to me.
I know it sounds stupid but when I read "unreal-powered rpg" the first thing that came to mind was final fantasy with characters like fenix from GoW andUnreal tournament guys. That would be awesome.
Or the hundred thousands of JRPG fans who want something to play while Sony get its thumb out of its butt.
Outside of MGS4 and my PS2 backlog, I am starting to wonder if I jump on the wrong first console this generation. Oh course if you told me that X360 would triple in the number of JRPG's then Sony, I would have called you a high little fanboy.
At this point, 2 days before MGS4, I think its time for Sony to go Sega and drop out of the console game.
Seriously, today, Sony should officially announce they will no longer be supporting the system. Well.. they should admit they they've never been supporting it all along. Just announce the imminent cancellation of the FFXIII compilation and lets move on.
Today is the day, in my mind, Microsoft wins the console war.
Yeah, I wouldn't go that far, but X360 has definately turn the corner on "shooterbox" only console. Definately got me thinking about getting a X360 if the price drop happens this year.
this is hilarious!!! I will remember this when PS3 passes 360 in worldwide sales next year, as every single analyst has predicted.
Just because the 360 dominates the states, doesnt mean it does everywhere, it gets outsold 8:1 in JPN, and recently past 360 in LTD sales in EU, despite the year head-start.
Gotta agree that any talk of someone winning the console war is silly. There is no way that Sony would drop their PS line. They are making lots of money, like everyone else, and thats what a business cares about.
This idea that you have to make more money than the others to keep going is plain insane. You don't have to be 1st in business to be the only one left. (See car industry.)
Let be honest here. I know that there has been a lot of other games than shooter on the X360 but to me its been half hearted attempts. With all the Kameos and Viva Pintas and Forza's, a lot of developers and publishers look to have "gun play" as the main feature in most of its games on the X360. Yea all of them were not FPS or 3rdPS but ones that weren't had to have a "shooting" mechanics. Crackdown, Shadowrun, Saints Row, Lost Planet, even WRPG style Too Human has gun play. It what sells, so much so, Sony is try capitalize on it instead of JRPGs, which left X360 a market to fill.
Yeah I don't think Sony cares about finishing first or last in a meaningless race as long as they make lots of money, which they are doing (as well as everyone else).
Also in one year the ps3 has already had way more good to great games than the ps2 had in its first year, and I'm pretty sure it's selling just as good if not better than the ps2 did in a year.
Dude! Dont bust on Viva Pinata. How was Forza half hearted?
Here's what I detect in these posts - people say that MS has done a lousy job with non FPS games, but then they haven't played them because they aren't their style of game. So how can the game be half hearted if you haven't played them?
Remind me again, how many times have the analyst told us that? I see you have givin up on this being "TEH YAR OFF DE PSTRIPPLE!" and started pumping next year.
It was suppose to take off when it started selling. It was suppose to take off after [Game name here.] was released. It was suppose to take off after a price cut. Meanwhile, Nintendo and MS are making a profit on their consoles and release a steady stream of decent games. Why does Sony have to "win" so bad?
WOW, they lost 28 millions this past year, and now their putting rpg's on the 360 first, not a good idea. Ill wait for the ps3 version if its any good, since i like the controller and don't know if ill have a 360 by then. SONY needs to start throwing some money around, but then again i guess aquare is trying to be square, lol, since the ps3 has two ff 13 games, which we know nothing about, nice one square.
The funny thing is that square would be making less statistically if they were to come out with rpgs on the ps3 at least at the moment. It's a common misconception that the ps3 is selling well in japan. The Psp is (new trend), the ds is and the wii is. That's it. It's obvious that microsoft is funding these projects a whoooole lot to get these exclusives. That's something sony wouldn't do. Square's situation is like being between a rock and a hard place. "Next Gen" in japan just isn't happening..and square relies on that to push their software. A lot of it is their fault. They still are making the same darn game over and over again. They used to be ahead of the curve graphically (which meant sales in america and europe at least) and that seems to not be the case anymore. They spit in nintendo's face when they went to sony and now nintendo might be the only viable money making scheme. That, or keep pushing that 360...it very well might revive square when/if a cheaper, more reliable generation of consoles comes along.
Nicely said and it's something that I've been saying for awhile. I mean console gaming in general isn't doing so hot in Japan. Why else do you think Japanese developers such as Capcom are making western influenced games?
If we consider your "logic" in your post, maybe RPG fans saw that LO and Blue Dragon was a "nice try" by Microsoft to publish a couple of JRPG but never took it as a commitment to the genre. But with SE pushing four titles to X360 title with in a year (Infinate Undiscovery, Tales of Vesperia, Star Ocean, and now timed exclusive The Last Reminant) and Sony can't tell you when their two big JRPGs (FF13 and White Knight) are coming out, it showing for now that X360 is the place JRPGs for the moment.
Why is what Name is saying so outlandish? Both these games were touted as the next big thing, and neither one was.
We have nothing to base how these new RPG's are going to do off of except how the past RPG's have done, and its not pretty. Just because there is now a more wide variety of games on teh 360 doesnt mean it isnt still the shooterbox, as those are the only games that sell well.
While PS3 games dont sell nearly as much, because the install base is much lower, you still have shooters that sell well, like COD4, but you have games like R&C, Uncharted, and Heavenly Sword that do well also, and MGS4 will be the best selling PS3 game in a matter of days.
Ok, seriously if people don't get off the "shooterbox" thing then we're going to have to bring back the "PS3 has gamez?!?! LOLZ!!!" crap too.
Both are just as old, outdated, and irrelevant as the other.
Only shooters sell on the 360? 3 of the top 10 selling 360 games are shooters. 2 of the top 10 selling PS3 games are shooters (and another is Uncharted which is pretty damn close to a shooter). Wow, huge difference *rolls eyes*.
Just because a console does one thing really well doesn't mean that it doesn't do everything else well. That's just as stupid as saying the the PS3 does games poorly because it plays Blu-ray movies so well.
Anyone that uses the term shooterbox is no better (or less blind and foolish) than the schmucks who say "LOL I THOUGHT THE PS3 WAS JUST A BLU-RAY PLAYER!"
"So you're going by sales as to whether games are good or not?"
uh, that wasn't what he stated (at least I hope it wasnt), I think what he meant by showing the sales numbers wasn't to say that they were no good but to show that they just weren't successful...
And although name123 mentioned it with a hell lot of fanboyism, the statement still stands, RPGs aren't successful on the console...
Blue Dragon, even with a freaking anime, wasn't successful
Yup, 360 is all about the FPS's...err, NOT! Not only does it have the most diverse library. It has the best library. Amazing what almost 1 year headstart can do.
*Waits for RROD comment from a Sony fanboy, sadly I know which ones will do it too haha.
These 360 RPGs are just calculated, uninspired attempts to broaden the 360s appeal (so are Viva Pinata/Kameo/Banjo). They are proof that the 360 is struggling to appeal to non-FPS players.
It's true that the 360 has more than FPS games, but if you aren't into FPS games there's no reason to get a 360 over a PS3.
The 360 isn't "struggling" for shit(well, the Wii's casual market, but that's something entirely different).
Also, anyone who has actually *played* Viva Pinata would not call it "uninspired." It was a clever, beautiful game of which I put more hours into than every PS3 game I've played so far *combined* (even though somehow I did get screwed out of my 50 HR achievement...)
It's not about what genres the 360 has, it's about what genre (singular) actually gets played, and furthermore what the console is soley known for. And THAT is FPS.
Looks ok I guess, but I'm not falling for JRPGs flashy cutscenes anymore. I need lots more details on the gameplay before I get suckered into buying another JRPG like I did with Lost Odyssey
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Maverick Saturn @ Jun 10th 2008 7:37AM
Guess this makes sense, especially with FF13 games being exclusive to PS3. Something for something.
And it looks good :) Do I see blood spurting there? Will this game be like Gears, gore and violence in an RPG?
When is FF11-2 coming out ¬_¬ They promised.
xFenixKnightx @ Jun 10th 2008 10:16AM
lol, They are going crazy over at PS3fanboy over this. Thats just sad.
deaftly @ Jun 10th 2008 10:41AM
The comments on ps3fanboy never cease to crack me up this early in the morning, "XBOX KILLED MY FATHER.... AND RAPED MY MOTHER!!!11 NOOOOOOOOOOO"
Maverick Saturn @ Jun 10th 2008 11:37AM
Sounds like Wii60warrior, lmao
SoCoolCurt (PSN: KillaKornbread) @ Jun 10th 2008 12:37PM
well im a Playstation fan, and im saying, i dont care if 360 guys get to play it to as long as i still get to play it on my PS3 as well. Final Fantasy is one of the main reasons i own a PS3 anyway so i would be bummed if i lost it to Microsoft completely.
i dont mind sharing good games, but honestly, if MS somehow scooped FF exclusively, that would probably be the thing to make me wave the white flag and get a 360.
SoCoolCurt (PSN: KillaKornbread) @ Jun 10th 2008 1:18PM
huh.....thats not even Final Fantasy. i dont know what i was thinking it was. oh well, i still feel the same way since it does still look pretty good to me.
ThePerfectCompanion @ Jun 10th 2008 7:38AM
Sweet!
Supino @ Jun 10th 2008 7:39AM
So many promising RPGs on the way! can't wait.
fred @ Jun 10th 2008 7:52AM
I know it sounds stupid but when I read "unreal-powered rpg" the first thing that came to mind was final fantasy with characters like fenix from GoW andUnreal tournament guys. That would be awesome.
Geist @ Jun 10th 2008 3:52PM
No. No it wouldn't be.
PrinceKing @ Jun 10th 2008 7:59AM
This is becoming oh so common. *sigh* can a ps3 fanboy get any love?
ThePerfectCompanion @ Jun 10th 2008 8:06AM
No...the devs don't think its worth the money and you don't deserve the great titles to begin with.
Eggy @ Jun 10th 2008 8:12AM
Yeah for the 10,000 or so xbox 360 gamers who actually want these titles.
RPGJock @ Jun 10th 2008 9:24AM
Or the hundred thousands of JRPG fans who want something to play while Sony get its thumb out of its butt.
Outside of MGS4 and my PS2 backlog, I am starting to wonder if I jump on the wrong first console this generation. Oh course if you told me that X360 would triple in the number of JRPG's then Sony, I would have called you a high little fanboy.
I am just saying...
koehler83 @ Jun 10th 2008 8:00AM
At this point, 2 days before MGS4, I think its time for Sony to go Sega and drop out of the console game.
Seriously, today, Sony should officially announce they will no longer be supporting the system. Well.. they should admit they they've never been supporting it all along. Just announce the imminent cancellation of the FFXIII compilation and lets move on.
Today is the day, in my mind, Microsoft wins the console war.
Brodie-san @ Jun 10th 2008 8:05AM
LOL!
Thanks for that. I was having a crap day in work until I read that.
RPGJock @ Jun 10th 2008 9:26AM
Yeah, I wouldn't go that far, but X360 has definately turn the corner on "shooterbox" only console. Definately got me thinking about getting a X360 if the price drop happens this year.
NATO_Duke @ Jun 10th 2008 10:06AM
RPGJock, ya know, the 360 has had a lot more than FPS on it this entire time.
Reality is a wonderful place to live in.
PojoMofo @ Jun 10th 2008 10:07AM
this is hilarious!!! I will remember this when PS3 passes 360 in worldwide sales next year, as every single analyst has predicted.
Just because the 360 dominates the states, doesnt mean it does everywhere, it gets outsold 8:1 in JPN, and recently past 360 in LTD sales in EU, despite the year head-start.
Saying Sony should drop out is ridiculous.
NATO_Duke @ Jun 10th 2008 10:23AM
Gotta agree that any talk of someone winning the console war is silly. There is no way that Sony would drop their PS line. They are making lots of money, like everyone else, and thats what a business cares about.
This idea that you have to make more money than the others to keep going is plain insane. You don't have to be 1st in business to be the only one left. (See car industry.)
xFenixKnightx @ Jun 10th 2008 10:26AM
Koehler83 For Prez!!! :)
Pojo
Calm down, Sony isn't going anywhere. We know all that mumbo jumbo you just typed. But we don't care ;)
RPGJock @ Jun 10th 2008 10:33AM
@Nato,
Let be honest here. I know that there has been a lot of other games than shooter on the X360 but to me its been half hearted attempts. With all the Kameos and Viva Pintas and Forza's, a lot of developers and publishers look to have "gun play" as the main feature in most of its games on the X360. Yea all of them were not FPS or 3rdPS but ones that weren't had to have a "shooting" mechanics.
Crackdown, Shadowrun, Saints Row, Lost Planet, even WRPG style Too Human has gun play. It what sells, so much so, Sony is try capitalize on it instead of JRPGs, which left X360 a market to fill.
tmacairjordan87 @ Jun 10th 2008 10:37AM
Yeah I don't think Sony cares about finishing first or last in a meaningless race as long as they make lots of money, which they are doing (as well as everyone else).
Also in one year the ps3 has already had way more good to great games than the ps2 had in its first year, and I'm pretty sure it's selling just as good if not better than the ps2 did in a year.
NATO_Duke @ Jun 10th 2008 11:06AM
Dude! Dont bust on Viva Pinata. How was Forza half hearted?
Here's what I detect in these posts - people say that MS has done a lousy job with non FPS games, but then they haven't played them because they aren't their style of game. So how can the game be half hearted if you haven't played them?
These are pointless circle arguments really.
LameDuck @ Jun 10th 2008 11:25AM
@Pojo:
Remind me again, how many times have the analyst told us that? I see you have givin up on this being "TEH YAR OFF DE PSTRIPPLE!" and started pumping next year.
It was suppose to take off when it started selling. It was suppose to take off after [Game name here.] was released. It was suppose to take off after a price cut. Meanwhile, Nintendo and MS are making a profit on their consoles and release a steady stream of decent games. Why does Sony have to "win" so bad?
PojoMofo @ Jun 10th 2008 1:34PM
@ Fenix, I came off a little harder than I intended, I know that most people know what I said, thought maybe Koehler83 had forgotten :)
@Lameduck, you missed my point (I do still think this is the year PS3 starts regaining their past dominance though)
I was simply giving a few reasons why the TC was ridiculous in saying Sony should drop PS3.
http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10710&Itemid=2
search google and you will see that is the concensus, I would link more but my company block most gaming websites :(
TwEE @ Jun 10th 2008 1:58PM
I think Wii has won this generation, you can ignore it if it makes you feel better though.
browntown @ Jun 10th 2008 8:03AM
WOW, they lost 28 millions this past year, and now their putting rpg's on the 360 first, not a good idea. Ill wait for the ps3 version if its any good, since i like the controller and don't know if ill have a 360 by then. SONY needs to start throwing some money around, but then again i guess aquare is trying to be square, lol, since the ps3 has two ff 13 games, which we know nothing about, nice one square.
Jfk Aok @ Jun 10th 2008 10:52AM
The funny thing is that square would be making less statistically if they were to come out with rpgs on the ps3 at least at the moment. It's a common misconception that the ps3 is selling well in japan. The Psp is (new trend), the ds is and the wii is. That's it.
It's obvious that microsoft is funding these projects a whoooole lot to get these exclusives. That's something sony wouldn't do.
Square's situation is like being between a rock and a hard place. "Next Gen" in japan just isn't happening..and square relies on that to push their software. A lot of it is their fault. They still are making the same darn game over and over again. They used to be ahead of the curve graphically (which meant sales in america and europe at least) and that seems to not be the case anymore. They spit in nintendo's face when they went to sony and now nintendo might be the only viable money making scheme. That, or keep pushing that 360...it very well might revive square when/if a cheaper, more reliable generation of consoles comes along.
Vegeta (aka Ska Oreo) @ Jun 10th 2008 11:49AM
Nicely said and it's something that I've been saying for awhile. I mean console gaming in general isn't doing so hot in Japan. Why else do you think Japanese developers such as Capcom are making western influenced games?
name123 @ Jun 10th 2008 8:21AM
Lost Odyssey: 700k worldwide
Blue Dragon: 500k worldwide
These new 360 RPGs will do even worse.
The big, true next-gen RPGs will be on the PS3 because of Blu-ray. There will probably be some PS3 RPGs that use multiple Blu-ray discs.
ThePerfectCompanion @ Jun 10th 2008 8:26AM
LMAO...keep telling yourself that.
Darcrequiem @ Jun 10th 2008 8:29AM
You should change your name to Denial123....
name123 @ Jun 10th 2008 8:33AM
ThePerfectCompanion/Wii60Warrior/PremierAssassin
What's with all the accounts? Is this one going to be the funny one?
xFenixKnightx @ Jun 10th 2008 8:49AM
namePS3
So you're going by sales as to whether games are good or not? Damn, that means just about all but 2 or 3 games on PS3 games are garbage then...
Sux for you. Now, would ya kindly STFU!
RPGJock @ Jun 10th 2008 9:37AM
@Name
If we consider your "logic" in your post, maybe RPG fans saw that LO and Blue Dragon was a "nice try" by Microsoft to publish a couple of JRPG but never took it as a commitment to the genre. But with SE pushing four titles to X360 title with in a year (Infinate Undiscovery, Tales of Vesperia, Star Ocean, and now timed exclusive The Last Reminant) and Sony can't tell you when their two big JRPGs (FF13 and White Knight) are coming out, it showing for now that X360 is the place JRPGs for the moment.
And this coming from a guy who only has a PS3
I'm just saying...
PojoMofo @ Jun 10th 2008 10:14AM
Why is what Name is saying so outlandish? Both these games were touted as the next big thing, and neither one was.
We have nothing to base how these new RPG's are going to do off of except how the past RPG's have done, and its not pretty. Just because there is now a more wide variety of games on teh 360 doesnt mean it isnt still the shooterbox, as those are the only games that sell well.
While PS3 games dont sell nearly as much, because the install base is much lower, you still have shooters that sell well, like COD4, but you have games like R&C, Uncharted, and Heavenly Sword that do well also, and MGS4 will be the best selling PS3 game in a matter of days.
Vcize @ Jun 10th 2008 10:35AM
Ok, seriously if people don't get off the "shooterbox" thing then we're going to have to bring back the "PS3 has gamez?!?! LOLZ!!!" crap too.
Both are just as old, outdated, and irrelevant as the other.
Only shooters sell on the 360? 3 of the top 10 selling 360 games are shooters. 2 of the top 10 selling PS3 games are shooters (and another is Uncharted which is pretty damn close to a shooter). Wow, huge difference *rolls eyes*.
Just because a console does one thing really well doesn't mean that it doesn't do everything else well. That's just as stupid as saying the the PS3 does games poorly because it plays Blu-ray movies so well.
Anyone that uses the term shooterbox is no better (or less blind and foolish) than the schmucks who say "LOL I THOUGHT THE PS3 WAS JUST A BLU-RAY PLAYER!"
Noshino @ Jun 10th 2008 10:39AM
Fenix
"So you're going by sales as to whether games are good or not?"
uh, that wasn't what he stated (at least I hope it wasnt), I think what he meant by showing the sales numbers wasn't to say that they were no good but to show that they just weren't successful...
And although name123 mentioned it with a hell lot of fanboyism, the statement still stands, RPGs aren't successful on the console...
Blue Dragon, even with a freaking anime, wasn't successful
wootman @ Jun 10th 2008 3:26PM
so by that logic, Last Remnant will sell AT LEAST 900k?
personally, that sounds like a pretty good bottom line.
VSpeck @ Jul 15th 2008 3:06AM
700K and 500K are bad?
baby sea tuna @ Jun 10th 2008 8:24AM
B-b-b-b-b-b-but all the xbox has are FPSs...right?
xFenixKnightx @ Jun 10th 2008 8:33AM
Right...oh wait.
FPS's
3rd PS's
RPG's
JRPG's
Action RPG's
Fighting
Survival Horror
Racing
Action
Sports
Platformers
XBLA
XNA
Casuals
Yup, 360 is all about the FPS's...err, NOT! Not only does it have the most diverse library. It has the best library. Amazing what almost 1 year headstart can do.
*Waits for RROD comment from a Sony fanboy, sadly I know which ones will do it too haha.
name123 @ Jun 10th 2008 8:46AM
These 360 RPGs are just calculated, uninspired attempts to broaden the 360s appeal (so are Viva Pinata/Kameo/Banjo). They are proof that the 360 is struggling to appeal to non-FPS players.
It's true that the 360 has more than FPS games, but if you aren't into FPS games there's no reason to get a 360 over a PS3.
baby sea tuna @ Jun 10th 2008 8:58AM
The 360 isn't "struggling" for shit(well, the Wii's casual market, but that's something entirely different).
Also, anyone who has actually *played* Viva Pinata would not call it "uninspired." It was a clever, beautiful game of which I put more hours into than every PS3 game I've played so far *combined* (even though somehow I did get screwed out of my 50 HR achievement...)
Co @ Jun 10th 2008 9:54AM
It's not about what genres the 360 has, it's about what genre (singular) actually gets played, and furthermore what the console is soley known for. And THAT is FPS.
Sorry Fenix, you're still my boy!
Co @ Jun 10th 2008 9:56AM
Dammit I just agreed with Name123.
DELETE POST!!!
NATO_Duke @ Jun 10th 2008 10:09AM
Oh look! Another post where Name talks about games that he has never played and follows with how much better the PS3 is because of it.
Troll.
xFenixKnightx @ Jun 10th 2008 8:26AM
Damn, this looks amazing. And I'm not even big on JRPG's. Bummer for PS3 fans, why does this keep happening?
tmacairjordan87 @ Jun 10th 2008 8:37AM
Looks ok I guess, but I'm not falling for JRPGs flashy cutscenes anymore. I need lots more details on the gameplay before I get suckered into buying another JRPG like I did with Lost Odyssey