Nintendo says: Only geeks and otaku want a harddrive

If nobody cared about the storage dilemma, why would it have been brought up at a press event? Sounds like somebody is getting a wee bit defensive

Wow, so Nintendo is claiming the insult your fans crown from Sony just before the PS3 launch? Nice, this fan won't be standing in line day one to buy your next console. Hope the turn-out from soccer moms is high!

If they don't announce a solution soon, I'm going to be so pissed. I can't believe they haven't done something yet. People have already been able to hack the wii and run outside code on it, so why not just open up the SD card slot or let us plug a jump drive into the back. It's ridiculous.

Yeah, that guy needs to be fired. Way to insult your market, dumbass.

Way to insult your own fans! What an obnoxious prick.

Seems to me that anyone who really uses their Wii would want additional storage. Especially now that it's been announced that lack of storage is what is stopping some companies from coding for the Wii or releasing Downloadable Content. It doesn't have to be a Hard Drive, though. Open up USB Drives for us to use. That's got to be better than copying items to/from an SD card. For my part, I don't need it at the moment, but the amount of space a download takes up will eventually cause me to stop and think about whether I want to download something or not. It's convenient to have everything easily accessible rather than having to swap things around. Add in the time to swap/re-load and it just makes sense to allow some form of expandable storage.

i cant believe i just read that....that guy needs to be beat up in a alley somewhere,the wii does need storage and there is no geeks here just people that want freakin storage...way to go nintendo take the money and freakin run...damn idiots

Nice to insult your core audience jackass. Seriously, I am happy and all that Nintendo has gone back to it's roots and found success in that but there is no reason to insult people that ask for one of the most BASIC of elements provided by other current generation consoles.

I demand this guys ass to be fired.

Who the hell has kept this industry alive for the last 30 years, hu? GEEKS, THAT'S WHO!! And Otaku's? Aren't Otakus just japanese geeks? Why doesn't he learn the Spanish way to say geek and insult Hispanics too, hu? I bet they'd love that. ******* ******...

Wow. NoE better have a swift word with that employee about Customer Relations. Insulting the customer is one of the worst things to do, and this guy should really take a long look at this problem before opening his mouth again.

The stupidity of that comment warrants an apology.

nice, Nintendo.

All the more reason for me to leave my Xbox 360 as my main console and my Wii as secondary. That way I won't have problems with storage space, right?

Note - I know this is Wii Fanboy. I greatly enjoy my Wii titles. Halo 3 was, in my opinion, overhyped and now boring. However, the lackluster online support has caused me to only use my Wii when I first get a new title or when company is over. I'm simply venting my frustration as a devout Nintendo supporter since the NES, now seeing them shrug off their core audience in favor of the soccer moms. What's your average attach rate, eh Nintendo?

Laurent Fischer is my new hero.

I laughed so hard. So, so, hard.

I hope he doesn't go back on that comment because, though it was worded poorly, he does have a point.

"Are you running out of storage space on your Wii?"

Not really. I'm about 2/3 full so far and I bought it around launch. But when I do, I'll buy an SD card and move a couple of things over onto it. I don't need access to every single downloaded game at once. I usually only play 3 or 4 different games in a given week.

That's kind of tight. And my storage space is fine... so far. I don't think I'm going to need much space, anyway.

The main thing stopping Nintendo from doing this is it's lack of control over SD or external storage specs. It's dead easy for us to say oh let's use our 2GB SD cards or let's use this external 120GB USB drive, but Nintendo wouldn't get a cut in this. That's why they weren't going to support SD cards for savegames on the Gamecube, even with an SD card adapter sold by themselves; Nintendo just doesn't make the cards themselves.

And we know Nintendo doesn't work on losses or free stuff, they don't subsidize shit. It's just how Nintendo works, unfortunately. The good side is their games kick ass, so I reckon the overall experience is worth it.

I've said it many times before: releasing a hard drive would be a mistake as it would be extremely overkill.

Also, Nintendo may not advertise WiiWare, but Microsoft doesn't either with Xbox Live Arcade. Then again, it's not really a comparison issue and both should probably advertise their games...

I think the WiiWare / Wii Shop Channel interface is fine. There doesn't seem to be an interface problem with the Virtual Console section, so why should the WiiWare section be any different. Can't find a game, just use the search function or look for a game via the Nintendo Channel.

Count me in the nerd pile, but also count me in the 'no longer buying downloadable content until a storage solution is provided', plain and simple. This is where I've been since week one of WiiWare launch. My disposable income for this sort of thing is easily being eaten up by Rock Band on my 360 though, so don't worry about this nerd, Nintendo!

-m.

Ok they are 2 scenarios here,
1- he actually works for Microsoft or Sony, and probably spy on Nintendo.
2- He is the one with the smart idea to NO release external storage and push the idea that 512MB is enough, and now he is in deep shit by his superiors. In result he is pissed at the world.

Technically, that's probably about 90% true. This guy could have chose better labels for said people crying for an HDD, though.

That said, it's Nintendo Europe. Who cares what they say?

Nice to see Nintendo still cares about the hardcore segment of the market. You know, the group that buys mountains of their games, instead of just the titles that start with "Brain". Hey Nintendo: if you don't come up with a solution for my Wii's storage problem, I WON'T BE ABLE TO BUY ANY MORE DOWNLOADABLE GAMES. I'm fully dedicated to your Shop Channel system and love the WiiWare I've played so far, but I'm not gonna keep deleting my old games to play the new.

Rock Band, motherfucker.

So? This is the payback Nintendo gives to their hardcore fans who kept their company afloat during the gamecube years? I'm ashamed to be a Nintendo fan after that statement!

Geeks and otaku? That fool doesn't realize that applies to everyone who plans to buy like 20 out of the hundreds of vc games or like 5 wiiware games. Do Nintendo not want our money? How are they gonna plan to sell hundreds of future wiiware titles if each console's 512mb can only fit 5 games? Shame on them, third party developers better pressure Nintendo. Why spend time making wiiware games if Nintendo does even care enough to maximize sales for the medium? Screw that.

My Wii could probably take like 2 more wiiware games at most. I refuse to delete any games on my console, PERIOD. Not gonna waste half of hour of my time with that ridiculousness. So, I already poured like $200+ to Nintendo for great vc and wiiware titles. They ain't getting another dime from me after I run out of space. I imagine it the same with other "geeks and otaku," who are heart and soul of the video game industry. I have like no downloaded channels except the new Nintendo channel and MK channel. If Nintendo doesn't want my money and enthusiasm, then forget them.

IGN's Nintendo podcast had a great rant by Casamassina and Bozon about this. This is not acceptable. And now, they insult us because we criticize them. WOW!

OK, rant over. I feel much better.

I'm going to write to Nintendo,
tomorrow.
Family guy is on now.

Fool.

It looks like they are making one anyways.

(the job for the USB utilization ad)

wii update to accept usb jumpdrive.
topic closed

I guess when my mother phoned me at work yesterday about my little brother's wii back home over an hour away from where I live, being filled up, that was her indication that my 8-year-old sibling is a geek/otaku. I also love that it's so confusing for these casual gamers that Nintendo seems to worship, as they obviously don't clearly state easily enough how a relatively hip mother, and a gradeschooler who loves nintendo, can figure out these storage issues. No, instead, I hear about from mom, "I had to get an SD card" so they could download the games he wanted to play, as a gift for his birthday. Nevermind the fact that an SD card used for copying is more convoluted than redownloading the game in the first place.
Oi.

I really, really wish this whole situation hadn't come about.

Point: The comments are a grade-A insult to your consumers, whether it's accurate or not is another thing entirely.

Point: The Wii has USB ports. If you don't want to bring your own product to market that will solve the problem, ADD USB MASS STORAGE SUPPORT SO WE CAN USE THEM.

Nintendo, we know you think you're adhering to "The iPod model", but you're not. Apple sells a 160GB iPod because they understand some consumers don't want to change the content on their iPod in order to listen to some songs for a day.

Also, some of us live in areas without broadband net access or we actually pay for downloads (hello TimeWarner subscribers). We don't want to download the same thing twice.

Seriously, can someone in the Nintendo-related media PLEASE get to this guy and tell him that the Internet now thinks he's an asshole?

Thanks.

It's not that he said "geeks and otaku," it's that he referred to them in a dismissive way, like some sort of superminority

Like saying "Only the people who bought God Hand want more God Hand"

It seems like Nintendo's approach this time around is "We don't care if you play with the Wii, just as long as you buy one.". Shame.

ok, "geeks and otaku" may apply (at least in this case ;) ) but the way he said it (or at least how I read it) is like he's writing "us" off as if we don't matter...

we're just geeks and otaku, what are we gonna do? come out of our parents' basement and go *do* something about it?

f**ker... I think I'll join you guys and stop buying vc/ww games until this problem is solved... unless they release Earthbound or Mario RPG... I'd have to make some exceptions, lol

Two words; unofficial firmware. Why not? I can be done! Look at what people have done with the SD Slot so far; the Twilight Hack. If that can be done, certainly some genius will figure out how to enable the Wii to accept SD media (and flash drives) more than 2GB. Nintendo just shot themselves in the butt. "Nerds and Otaku" uh...that means the same thing. Sure, making said unofficial firmware is "illegal" but who gives a crap?