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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 4:07PM Landosystem said

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Be more creative is right! There are so many fantastic ways to insult people on a much more personal and individual level, shouting racial slurs and homophobic rants just proves how simple minded and lazy you are.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 5:23PM (Unverified) said

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Why do you need to insult people? Can't we all just get along?
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 9:43PM (Unverified) said

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I go with the classic "go pick my cotton".
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Posted: Jun 13th 2008 9:01AM (Unverified) said

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There will always be stupid people. Especially stupid young people. Always. Make XBOX Live 1yr subscription $1500 and you weed them out. Because their most likely poor as well. Stupid and poor. Always.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 4:10PM (Unverified) said

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i totally agree its gotten horrible since 360, back on xbox 1 it was so fun to just randomly go on quick match. sessler is right by every single thing he says here and that's very hard for me to say seeing as how i lost all respect for xplay about 3 set changes ago. guys please if you do this F***ing think about it first!
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 4:14PM (Unverified) said

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As soon as I hear that crap, I file complaints. Everyone should do the same.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 4:20PM anoffday said

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I agree. I file a complaint, and then I give them negative feedback, so at the very least I don't have to hear the idiot.

I've met a lot of cool people on Live, but I've also met a lot of complete losers.

On a sidenote, MS needs to work a lot harder on this issue. I know a lot of people who have gotten banned from Live for the stupidest reasons, while racist morons never get in trouble for anything.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 4:22PM newmania said

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Agreed, complaints and reviews aren't used nearly enough. I hate that every jerk on Live has a 5 star rating.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 4:23PM (Unverified) said

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agreed, i'm the same way.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 4:17PM SavageGrampa said

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I agree. Hopefully someone listens.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 4:18PM Rajko said

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Yeah, so many idiots on there, I wish something could be done.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 4:23PM Gemini Ace said

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Problem is that the people that do it aren't at all influenced by Sessler's or anyone's logic. They don't care. All you can do it leave feedback and tell them you effed their mom. After that, what is there?
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 4:27PM (Unverified) said

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Well, you could actually go F their mom. That would be a pretty bad burn.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 6:10PM Jude said

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I actually had to go do that once and the lady was absolutely horrendous. Think Ron Pearlman meets Barbara Bush meets Oscar the Grouch. So, ultimately, the burn ended up being on me. It was nasty.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 8:41PM Capitalist Pig said

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J, you jsut made my day!!

But I wish all those racist/homophobes out there would learn how to shut up. Seriously, if only Microsoft would make punishments more severe for this kind of behavior.

Just a quick question though to everybody else. If you give someone else negative feedback/ file a complaint, will they know your gamertag? Because I have been seriously tempted to give people negative feedback, but I know that if I do and they know it's me, they'll spite me by doing it back. Thanks!
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Posted: Jun 13th 2008 12:27AM (Unverified) said

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No you can not see who left you negative feed back.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 4:26PM (Unverified) said

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This is the main reason why I am back to a silver level membership. I love online play, but I just don't want to be involved with any of those people at any time. Any game that I absolutely must play online I'll get for my PC. It may cost more to upgrade and play all the latest games, but you'd be surprised at how much more mature the average PC gamer is...

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Posted: Jun 13th 2008 8:04AM mardigan71 said

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You're absolutely right, Geoff. When I get online with a PC game, I rarely if ever hear that kind of talking. Plus, you can tell by the voices that the age of the average PC gamer is older.
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Posted: Jun 13th 2008 9:30AM Fox City said

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Older, but not always wiser :(
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 4:29PM refinedsugar said

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He answered his own open ended question: it's the internet, anonymity, fin.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 4:31PM (Unverified) said

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just last night i had a very young kid ask me if i had any daughters he could rape after finding out that i was married with children. i guess someone else had asked me about it.

the worst thing you can do is get into a verbal battle with these idiots. i just ignore them, file a complaint, make them avoided players, and mute them in the game itself.

this will never end. it is best that you keep a level head and get acquainted with the nearest mute function.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 4:32PM JeffTXD said

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Can we also stop using the word rape? It kinda may be a sensitive issue for some people.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 4:48PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, also nobody mention either world wars, Nazis, death, killing, or anything that could offend anybody.

I think I've made my point.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 6:58PM (Unverified) said

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Instead of "You got RAPED!";

How about "Good game."?

Try it every once and a while, you may get a friendly response back :)
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 7:31PM Ethan said

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I don't think the words on their own are harmful, but then being pointed at people a lá 'u got raped' is a pretty nasty inference. But even then, it depends on the tone.

Maybe it's just because kids can't handle the concept and thus be mature enough to joke about it, while maintaining boundaries?
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 8:02PM (Unverified) said

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I understand what you mean, but it's always a matter of tone. Of course, the "U GOT RAPED!" guys should shut up, but I use it on occasion myself, but not as an insult.

When I start a game, and see people with much more experience than me, after getting a feel for them, I might drop a "rape me gently". I say it without ill intent and it always gets a chuckle.

Now if somebody was to say something, I'd apologize in a heartbeat. I don't play to insult people, I play to have fun and I don't want to ruin the game for anybody else.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 11:46PM (Unverified) said

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I whole heartely agree that there needs to be a resolution to these immature gamers out there. I do not understand why games rated 17 and over are being played by all these young kids. The best we can do for now is send in reviews so that those players become avoided players.

What is ironic is that those that are sending out those homophobic remarks are also the ones that are teabagging your body they just killed.

GROW UP PLEASE!
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 4:37PM (Unverified) said

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Remember the good ole days of Quake2? Where at the end of each match people would write "GG". Or if it wasn't a good game they would say something like "Blah".

Ah the memories.

It could have been because GG is a lot easier then some racist tyrade
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 4:43PM Dirty said

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I wish they had a game zone that is like an "adult swim". The other problem is that it changes people, a friend of mine became crazy at talking shit to people on halo 3. He used to be such a nice guy.

This is a big problem, hopefully someone at M$soft reads these comments.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 5:26PM (Unverified) said

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"M$soft"

It's not spelled Microssoft, which is what you are implying with this abbreviation.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 5:29PM Dirty said

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whatever, You F@**
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 5:31PM Dirty said

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Sorry, been playing too much H3
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 4:43PM (Unverified) said

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The main reason why I mute about 5 players every match I play when not playing with my friends. Xbox 1 got that way after about a year of Halo 2...stopped playing it. COD4, H3, GTA4...sitting on the shelf. Sure, they got my money, but where's the lasting value? (DLC $$$?) What's the point of bragging about being number one on XBL when that number is half of what it could be if people weren't such cocks?

Anyway, I'll drop the "your mom" comment every once in awhile just to get to someone, but the racist and homophobic slurs are off-limits under all circumstances. You get muted for life and compliant filed. I don't trust that MS investigates all complaints, but it's my only recourse other than the obligatory mute.

So, Adam, I'm doing my part. Keep up the fight!
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 4:53PM Joeybeast said

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I've set my voice communication to "friends only" long time ago. I can never use the "eavesdrop" perk.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 4:54PM Joeybeast said

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Has any body else realized that Adam has no neck?
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 4:54PM (Unverified) said

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My two step program to virtually eliminating this issue:

1. Use the feedback and player review system frequently and accurately. Everyone always whines about how it doesn't work and doesn't seem to realize that's because not enough good, honest people are using it and most of the ones who are, are abusing it.

2. Do not react to these idiots, EVER! That's what they are looking for, it's an affirmation that they have the power over you to get you very worked up with these words. Don't even try to reason with them; just mute them and leave reviews and feedback. Also never tell them you're doing this otherwise they will likely retaliate with feedback.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 5:16PM Ethan said

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Nail. Head. Adam Sessler.

Online games often have people who want to turn a competition into something far more aggressive, ugly and vile. Rather than these people seeing the starting point for a new acquaintance being normal, they start with bitch and go downhill from there. There's a lot more fun to be had in online matches if your trying to do more than just dominate people.

And what makes it worse is that dominate doesn't mean win. It means to 'grief,' to control how a person experiences the game, even if only for a second, and that's what these words do too. But I'd like to think it's more than our concern for our reputation that keeps us decent elsewhere.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 5:22PM RMM said

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I play on Xbox Live a lot, and like, 95% of the people I play with seem pretty cool. But yeah, really, there's not much that can be done beyond giving them negative feedback. It's like telling a stupid person on the internet that they're stupid. They don't care, and they aren't going to change.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 9:55PM chrisrackley said

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I agree, but it doesn't go far enough. Why is just the bigotry, why not the obscenity? I'm tired of playing a game and having everyone I kill say "F*** you!" or "You f******"! or "D***head!"

Seriously . . . I understand the bigotry rants, but why not get rid of the needless obscenity. Only Quentin T. and Robert R. should talk like that.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 5:29PM (Unverified) said

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One thing I don't understand about the feedback system, is how do they know what the person said? Do they record everything that gets said across XBL? That's a little too big brother for me.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 6:06PM imurray said

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No, they don't record anything.

The way you can TELL them what the person said is through the feedback system. It gives you broad areas of offenses that said asshat might have used, and you select which one is applicable.

Microsoft doesn't take this kind of stuff lightly, so if everyone uses it correctly, the people who don't deserve to speak on XBL soon won't have an account to badmouth on.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 6:27PM (Unverified) said

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Well how does the XBL team know whether or not the person actually said what the person is filing a complaint about?
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 5:54PM (Unverified) said

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been thinking for awhile about getting a 360 my question is if someone on live is saying racial or homo crap and you report it how does microsoft know they actually said that stuff ? its not like the record in game chat do they ?
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 6:04PM chex said

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funny how nobody has mentioned that sessler is complaining about people making racial and homophobic remarks then uses the word bastard at the end of his tirade. i guess that word doesn't offend anybody.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 7:35PM Ethan said

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Yeah, while it might mean child out of wedlock originally, it does now refer to just a general person with a shitty attitude. I think it's okay to belittle in that case.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 6:28PM (Unverified) said

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Its just the people that are overall stupid that pisses me off. Making loud noises along with the bigot and homophobic people just adds on to my annoyance. I don't have a high speed connection so I usually only play live when I'm at college.

While I might talk trash when I'm playing with my friends offline, I don't talk trash online and I usually say good game after a game or if I lose I say nothing.

It's almost like it was a bad idea to give almost everyone a mic
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 6:29PM (Unverified) said

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Fascism should be banned...oh hang on a minute...isnt that a Fascist act?

FREEDOM OF SPEECH BABY...IF YOU DONT LIKE IT TURN EM OFF.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 6:33PM AoE said

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Don't get me wrong, I'm as staunch a defender of the 1st amendment as you'll ever find; but freedom of speech, if you'll read your constitution, you'll find applies to things under the governments' control (such as public spaces) it doesn't apply to private, closed messaging networks run by corporations. It would certainly be within MS' rights to do something about it, should they so choose.
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 6:39PM (Unverified) said

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Why is ok to condemn bigotry in a public forum but not ok to condemn homosexuality?

Sessler is a hypocrit...
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Posted: Jun 12th 2008 8:05PM (Unverified) said

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there's a difference between being an jerk, and telling a jerk to gtfo.
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