Analyst: PS3 will keep outpacing Xbox 360, MS may announce price drop at E3

Didn't MS cut the price of the 360 last year?

But I do agree, these analysts are just guessing, and often they guess worse than even a hardcore game who is paying attention would.

What really makes me laugh is people like Michael Pachter winning awards for their analysis of the game industry. Are you fucking kidding me? Half the people who comment on this site could make predictions as accurate (or MORE accurate) than him.

Only difference between Pachter and HAloKiLlaz666 when it comes to analyzing the game industry is Pachter sits behind a desk rather than behind a coffee table with a bong on it.

They did do a price drop...But after E3 (not announced their either, but of course the analysts kept guessing).

Don't prove me wrong with factual sources though! =)

That is the best thing ive seen all day, Kizzle.

props.

I gotta say the battle for #2 is pretty fun to watch!

@ Kizzle,

LMAO so dead on. Although, nothing but grape Swisher Sweets for my purple kush.

It's also pretty fun having games to play Co. So when's the next batch of rehashes due?

Right on time with the next batch of FPSs for your 360. We can go all day 87.

Yeah forget about the 4 jrpgs just announced for 360. Face it, the NDF is so short on games now they're reaching far out there and praying on generic games like the Conduit so they can say well...we have like 3 good non nintendo games now.

You know what's really funny? The Pachter hate. It amuses me immensely.

Michael Pachter is not a gaming fucktard. What he IS is an analyst who has access to information you WISH you had. Likewise, his job is to look at "sure bets" and such by gauging public reaction to announced titles. His JOB is to make predictions which will help investers interested in getting in on the gaming market. Plain and simple, his predictions are NOT for you. He looks at the business side of things, not the "OMFG, TeH HaloZ" side of things. And frankly, Pachter has the highest accuracy rating of the analysts. Most analysts are considered performers if they accomplish a 10% accuracy rating. He has 33%. And you, as gamers, are privelaged to a very small portion of his predictions. And the man must be good since his annual salary is the high six figure income.

But since you guys are all "in the know" about this shit, I guess you already KNEW that.

jordan

The upcoming lineup of games for the Wii is very good:

Tales of Symphonia, Fragile: Farewell Ruins of the Moon (by tri-Cresendo btw), Samba de Amigo, Mushroom Men, Project O, Spore, Sky Crawlers, Shiren the Wanderer, Monster Hunter 3, MadWorld, The Conduit, Super Mario Sluggers, Wario Land, DeBlob, Deadly Creature, Fatal Frame IV, Tenchu IV, Sonin Unleased, Spyborgs, Samn and Max and a lot more...

Besides the Factor 5 game, the Nintendo unanounced games, the Retro games.

And don't forget WiiWare titles too: World of Goo, Eternityhs Child, Animales de la Meurte, Gyrostarr, Stron Bad.

And the Wii has excellent titles right now, at least better reviewed games than the PS3. And you complain about the lack of good Wii games, but for every good PS3 game, there is a good Wii title.

Boy, with percentages like that Pachter'd make one helluva weather man!

Oh, and look this pretty game, by Vanillawares (Odin Sphere).

Omoro Muramasa

http://nintendofanalliance.com/wii/previews/oboro-muramasa-youtoden-video-and-screenshots.html

Fernando most of those games are games that only appeal to you, the die hard nintendo guy. Tenchu IV...really?? Because the last few were so good right? I've never even heard of some of those you listed, so please don't go on about the wii's upcoming lineup if that's all it includes.

Pachter Defense Force? o_O ZOMGWTFBBQ!!!

Blah blah blah, who gives a shit? Well, you do but I don't. Fiddy why do you get all worked up? BTW his guesses from his "information I WISH I had" has been way off lately.

"Yeah forget about the 4 jrpgs just announced for 360."

Are any of those games in first person? No? They won't reach 100,000 sold.

Fernando I hope you're not serious with that list.

Is joke, yes?

You know whats really funny?
Not unchecking "E-Mail me when someone replies to this comment"

;_;

"They won't reach 100,000 sold."

Excuse PS360 for not caving into releasing shovelware party games and focusing on new IP's that push videogames forward instead of going downhill with its bland PS2/Gamecube grafix. SPOGS racer anyone? LMAO!!!

Since Sir Fidlious Wong is so easily amused, let's look at his heartfelt diatribe in defense of his close, personal friend Michael Pachter:


"Michael Pachter is not a gaming fucktard."

He's even better - he's a GLORIFIED "gaming fucktard" masquerading as a suit-and-tie.


"What he IS is an analyst who has access to information you WISH you had."

Then I wish he'd start making better use of it, since he is wrong much more often than right (even by the numbers you provide later on). You must not pay attention to comments sections of sites like this too often - odd, since you post here relentlessly. Pachter "makes predictions" that are talked about weeks/months in advance on sites like this.


"Likewise, his job is to look at "sure bets" and such by gauging public reaction to announced titles."

So basically, by your definition, his job is something half the people who read this site could do. Thanks for proving my point.



"His JOB is to make predictions which will help investers interested in getting in on the gaming market. Plain and simple, his predictions are NOT for you."

For christsake, I never said they were. I'm saying that this guy has one of the sweetest deals going, he gets paid big bucks to make a "professionally-presented" version of what most of us are aware of either at the same time as or long before him.


"And frankly, Pachter has the highest accuracy rating of the analysts. Most analysts are considered performers if they accomplish a 10% accuracy rating. He has 33%."

So he's basically the best weatherman.

No, wait. Being a weatherman is harder - it's pretty simple to figure out the upcoming trends in the game industry if you don't have your head in the sand.


"And you, as gamers, are privelaged to a very small portion of his predictions."
LOL at "privileged" (or "privelaged," as you say). I couldn't care less if coverage of his "expert analysis" disappeared tomorrow. I'd be able to read the same thing, sooner, and probably in a more amusing format, on sites like this, Kotaku, Destructoid, et al.


"And the man must be good since his annual salary is the high six figure income."

Oh, obviously. Clearly, salary dictates performance/skill at every job. Ever. In history.

Damn Fenix, I hit a sore spot with ya huh buddy? I was talkin bout the 360, not your mom! lol

Kizzle, you're killin him man, lay off!

Holy crap Co, dude I didn't even see that you wrote that hahaha! I just retaliated my bad. Its cool, but still you get the point. Or do you? o_O lol

Kizzle PWNT Fidliuos hard.

LOL no prob Fenix, you know I wont see your point when u bash my precious!

And while I'm at it cuz it looks like tmacjordan87 is sniping my comments over the last few days, I just saw your comment on The Conduit thread about how i was bashing Killzone 2 screens but defending Conduit screens when they are both out Q1 2009. How does me saying the screens look good, but I can't get past dual analog set ups for FPS games equate??

Stop blindly attacking kid, get facts str8. And stop following me! If u weren't such a git I'd probably be nervous.

What's funny is that the article doesn't really care about the Wii all that much, but tmacairwhatever decides to rag on it for no reason whatsoever. Me thinks someone's a bit insecure with their decisions.

Fernando is to the PS3 what tmacair is to the Wii. Good shit. Now who's going to be the one for the 360?

Noticed how Fidlious Wong hasn't responded yet to the ownage given to him?

He's still typing it, thats why. :P

@ Co:

Swisher Sweets FTW!

Poor sheppy =(

He is a very cool person, I always talk with him every night, and he is a very smart person, and very funny too.

Other people from here from Joystiq (that are PS3 fanboys) are very good MSN friends... but I will not tell names =p

My bong is on the floor, thank you.

"But I will not tell names"

Fernando, WTF are we in Kindergarten? LOL, I have Fidlious aka Sheppy also on my PSN friends list. He's cool but he just goes overboard sometimes no doubt about that. He just goes out of his way to own people but this time I think it backfired. :(

Fenix

lol... =p

He is a very nice person, but you need to know him better. It's not an easy going person, but I do enjoy talking with him.

Ah, and Im not telling names, because there are a lot of people from here that, we are like enemies here, but friends outside Joystiq. =p

Must I reply today? Awww, but I have sooo many long lats to enter into the database. Oh well... if I must (because 4myfriends seems to believe I was soo pwnd hard that I have to respond). For sake of space, I'll respond to each section with labels...

-Glorified gaming fucktard: Nope. You see, he has no vested interest in which one wins or loses. He sees Haze's bad scores as a hit Ubisoft now has to take and how it will effect Free Radical as a company rather than a sign of PS3's utter failure. In other words, he's a business man who could give a shit whether Madden is good or bad, so long as it sells. So no, he's not a gaming fucktard.

-Something half the people could do: Really? You could take a look at how asset creation as an outsourcing model effects the cost of development versus the advantage of having exclusive right to those assets? And I'm sure you know exactly how much Midway pays the guy who organizes the outsourcing contracts as well? Nope, you don't. The people who look around here don't. When the fiscal reports come out, what makes the news on these sites? Is it cost incurred versus profits made with analysis on how they improve? Nope, it's when games are announced or delayed and rough percentages. If you want to have a debate with someone about a book, you have to move beyond the cliffnotes. Tht is what Pachter does. He reads the book, you guys debate the cliffnotes.

"professionally presented" version- Well, here is the difference. While only one or two of his comments make the blogs a week, he's making literally hundreds of decisions and making companies millions in investments. He has to predict how good Madden 2010 will do or if Mirror's Edge will be another Bioshock or an Okami. He has to make these predictions far out. And what we are privelage to is the low level shit, facing facts. Otherwise his job as a consultant would be in jeopardy if he basically shared his portfolio plans and strategies with the internet as a whole. So essentially he IS like a weatherman. But he's a weatherman who works hard and his predictions are a commodity, not a time filler.

The value of his comments- He is mentioned because he's important to the industry. Yes, we could get the outside view of Joystiq, Destructoid, etc. But we wouldn't get this information based on retail reports. His PS3 predictions were usually accurate and stem not from an increase in interest to the system but the limited stock available to retail shelves.

As I said before, not defending him, just getting tired of every analyst thread turns into a "fuck Pachter" tirade when in reality, most of the people making these predictions on this blog would be thoroughly disinterested in shifting through the raw data needed to makes those predictions. After all, EVERYONE thought GTAIV would be a massive boon to both 360 and PS3 hardware numbers. Everyone was wrong.

Sir Wong,

Why is the award memorial? Is this Justin's grandpa Justin who has passed on? Or was Justin being morbid?

Yo Fidlious...

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q78/devldogs55/chillpill.jpg

You can always tell what days I'm frickin bored out of my skull. In the past half hour, I've added 200+ lat longs to a database....

Man I wish we had an app like Speedtree for vehicle placement... Especially since Hawth's Tools tend to crash ArcMap...

Remember kiddos, recreating a major metropolis area = not fun....

yea i think your spot on. PS3 is a lot closer in Japan and Europe but i doubt it can catch the 360 in the US. they'll probably just go price drop for price drop back and forth for the rest of the generation.

i think Sony should be very pleased with all this considering the dismal failure the PS3 was shaping up to be, they pulled a complete turn around. now if they could just get their damn big name games out that i've been waiting forever for.

i think your right in some regards but analyst do have the added perk of being able to look at buying trends and such to make semi-educated predictions. but either way, they are just predictions. a review is completely an opinion.

but all in all, it really wont mean much to the gamer per say, except for flame fuel. on the other hand, it is nice to think that my console of choice is poised to do better especially considering that game developers are probably looking at the same predictions to decide to make new games or not.

I don't get the obsession over sales and who is beating who anyway. I can enjoy something even if it isn't the most popular thing.

The only thing I can see where sales matter is hardware sales have to be at some minimum level to ensure the platform remains viable. Well, with the PS3 now getting its head above water, all 3 platforms are viable in the US and so there's not a whole lot of point arguing about console sales anymore.

Excitement over game sales baffle me even more. Unless you're getting a cut, why do you care whether your favorite game is the biggest seller?

"I don't get the obsession over sales and who is beating who anyway. I can enjoy something even if it isn't the most popular thing."

While I agree with you on enjoying something even though it's not the most popular, not being the market leader really doesn't assist in my enjoyment of that console. See the Gamecube and it's owners last generation, we'll tell ya.

"I don't get the obsession over sales and who is beating who anyway. I can enjoy something even if it isn't the most popular thing."

Indeed. And thank goodness I don't get stuck on what's the most popular or else I'd be stuck watching American Idol and Precudural Crime Drama #84 instead of Firefly and Lost.

Come to think of it, I don't think my preferred console has EVER been the most popular (well, unless you count the NES but it didn't really have any direct competition).

analysts are just fanboys that get paid for starting rumors. So no, it doesn't really matter.

Its not MGS4, its the $100gc price drop by Walmart. But on a page in July, it will look like MGS4 did it.

Maybe an ignorant developer somewhere will fall for the bait, but they will be wrong. Otherwise, 5cent a disk royalties from BD are coming - oohhh-hooo, break out the bottled water, lets celebrate.