Back once again with a new episode of the Xbox 360 Fancast. This week, we talk about the crime against humanity that is Frogger 2. Of course, we also discuss the latest news (complete with a new Gears of War 2 news segment with Dustin. We also discuss both Ninja Gaiden II (now that Xav is on to try to make a case that it's not that great) and Civilization Revolution. Finally, we decide to talk about Adam Sessler's rant and share our feeling on Xbox Live behavior.
Be sure to check out the latest podcast from TheBBPS.com as Xav revisits his old stomping ground to talk about Metal Gear Solid 4 and more.
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Hosts: Richard Mitchell (SenseiRAM), Dustin Burg (SuperDunners), Alexander Sliwinski (Sli Xander), Xav de Matos (Snypz)
Produced by Richard Mitchell
Music: Intro/Outro: "Electromooq" by Uma Floresta. Bridge: "That Ain't Right" by David R. Merry
For fans: Xbox 360 Fancast Facebook group
[Thanks to Richard Elliott for the image]
News:
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We actually found time for an X3F Live event!, Another planned!
Potential Portal 2 details revealed
UT3's GoW2 content is a video, a multiplayer focused video
UT3 has a release date! July 4th in Euro, July 7th in NA
Rumor: MS's chip design team behind RROD
Jeff Bell leaves Microsoft ... tear
Frogger 2 is terrible
Break
Ninja Gaiden II and Civilization Revolution talk
Fanmail: Gears of War 2 detonations, GTAIV complaints
Reader Comments (25)
Posted: Jun 16th 2008 5:43PM (Unverified) said
Yeah amazing photoshop. Idea for a new one: Xav throwing a copy of madden 09 into/through a giant screen displaying Richard's head parodying that crazy apple super bowl commerical.
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Posted: Jun 16th 2008 5:45PM (Unverified) said
"(now that Xav is on to try to make a case that it's not that great) "
riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
gtfoh xav
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riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
gtfoh xav
Posted: Jun 16th 2008 5:55PM Xav de Matos said
Brother can't not like things in a game? C'mon!
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Posted: Jun 16th 2008 6:57PM (Unverified) said
Xav needs to come up with his own photoshop job with a quickness. I haven't even played the game or listened to his argument but right now, I gotta go with Richard. Look at him. Dude's got the passion! It's infectious.
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Posted: Jun 16th 2008 7:12PM (Unverified) said
haha, yes you can dislike things in a game, but a NG2 isnt all that great argument is a silly one. ;)
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Posted: Jun 16th 2008 7:15PM (Unverified) said
Well, in fairness, he does say that it's a 'good' game. he doesn't out and out knock it.
But that's not as fun to write :)
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But that's not as fun to write :)
Posted: Jun 16th 2008 7:48PM (Unverified) said
"Well, in fairness, he does say that it's a 'good' game"
ohhhhh... there we go!
Ok, I will DL this now and listen, i am going to give mr. xav the benefit of the doubt and assume he has a good case to present.
Im not one to stick up for a game usually, but man, NG2 really is a good game IMO. I love when a game knows what it does and does that very well. I judge the game based on its combat obviously and how everything ties into that. In that regard I say it is the best at what it does on the 360.
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ohhhhh... there we go!
Ok, I will DL this now and listen, i am going to give mr. xav the benefit of the doubt and assume he has a good case to present.
Im not one to stick up for a game usually, but man, NG2 really is a good game IMO. I love when a game knows what it does and does that very well. I judge the game based on its combat obviously and how everything ties into that. In that regard I say it is the best at what it does on the 360.
Posted: Jun 16th 2008 7:54PM (Unverified) said
(chris crocker refference)
"Leave Alexander Alone!!!! (breaks into hysterical tears).....Wait, what?...Whats that?... Its not Alexander?...Oh, its Xav?......Oh dear"
Keep up the good work guys
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"Leave Alexander Alone!!!! (breaks into hysterical tears).....Wait, what?...Whats that?... Its not Alexander?...Oh, its Xav?......Oh dear"
Keep up the good work guys
Posted: Jun 16th 2008 8:06PM (Unverified) said
Am I the only one that loves that song in the opening of the fancast?
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Posted: Jun 17th 2008 4:59AM (Unverified) said
I have to give you guys some props for being rational and level headed gamers. I agree completely with your fantalk. It was fantastic.
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Posted: Jun 16th 2008 10:48PM (Unverified) said
Don't let these jerks get to you Xav, I'm just as disappointed at Italy's showing this year as you are. Though they still have a chance to get to the quarter finals if Netherlands beat Romania and they can pull off a win against France tomorrow.
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Posted: Jun 17th 2008 3:27AM aStagnantSleep said
Dustin: The Heath Ledger moment= too soon. lol well for me atleast. I found it funny but I pulled an O_o "Was that Dustin?"
Crack is wack.
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Crack is wack.
Posted: Jun 17th 2008 4:06AM (Unverified) said
So can anyone tell me what that song is that plays in the beginning. It's got a great beat.
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Posted: Jun 17th 2008 5:20AM (Unverified) said
Being a lovely european, Ive got my hands on the full CivRev game. Must say its awesome, never really give Civ on the PC a chance, but really like the simple interface, but very detailed game. Only issue, that people may not like is the fact the map size in the demo is the same as the full game.
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Posted: Jun 17th 2008 12:21PM bluemanrule said
Fellas,
Kudos on the Sessler Soapbox segment. As you can tell from my avatar, I'm African-American and I find it disgusting when I hear certain people acting that way. I played the BF:BC demo and within the first 3 minutes I heard racial and sexual slurs, by teenage boys no less. Dustin, I loved the 'My hand would break the sound barrier' comment. Hilarious man.
This behavior is not an exaggeration and I'm glad someone is standing up for it. I didn't report them as it was my 1st time ever on Gold but you bet I will learn how and do it EVERY TIME I hear it.
Anyway, good show. Keep it up. Any word on the Lost Odyssey contest?
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Kudos on the Sessler Soapbox segment. As you can tell from my avatar, I'm African-American and I find it disgusting when I hear certain people acting that way. I played the BF:BC demo and within the first 3 minutes I heard racial and sexual slurs, by teenage boys no less. Dustin, I loved the 'My hand would break the sound barrier' comment. Hilarious man.
This behavior is not an exaggeration and I'm glad someone is standing up for it. I didn't report them as it was my 1st time ever on Gold but you bet I will learn how and do it EVERY TIME I hear it.
Anyway, good show. Keep it up. Any word on the Lost Odyssey contest?
Posted: Jun 18th 2008 12:14PM (Unverified) said
Lost Odyssey is now happy in its new home :)
I shipped it to the winner a while ago.
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I shipped it to the winner a while ago.
Posted: Jun 17th 2008 12:43PM ZEBRA NINER said
Nice Fancast. It was kind of emotional at times.
Can we get Richard Elliot to make a photoshop of Dustin as Scarface with his head buried in a HUGE pile of coke? That would be a great addition to the facebook.
Oh, and what's with the Zune art? It's crap!
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Can we get Richard Elliot to make a photoshop of Dustin as Scarface with his head buried in a HUGE pile of coke? That would be a great addition to the facebook.
Oh, and what's with the Zune art? It's crap!
Posted: Jun 17th 2008 4:33PM shafnitz1 said
I meant to comment on Adam Sessler post, but I never did. I'll post about it here, since it was discussed in the podcast.
I completely agree with Sessler. There is no place for kind of conduct anywhere, not just on Xbox LIVE. I'll agree with Alexander that I think the biggest contributor to this problem is the lack of parenting. If I ever heard my child talking like this, their Xbox days would be over for a long, long time. Unfortunately, most people are probably using the Xbox to babysit their kids so they don't have to.
Anyway, I've recently enabled the privacy feature that will mute everyone but people in your friends list. I got so tired of the jackasses on Call of Duty 4 and the in-game muting only works during the match, not in the lobby. It's sad that it has come to this. Voice communication is important in many of the games I play on Xbox LIVE, but it's not worth it having to listen to all the idiots that exists on the internets.
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I completely agree with Sessler. There is no place for kind of conduct anywhere, not just on Xbox LIVE. I'll agree with Alexander that I think the biggest contributor to this problem is the lack of parenting. If I ever heard my child talking like this, their Xbox days would be over for a long, long time. Unfortunately, most people are probably using the Xbox to babysit their kids so they don't have to.
Anyway, I've recently enabled the privacy feature that will mute everyone but people in your friends list. I got so tired of the jackasses on Call of Duty 4 and the in-game muting only works during the match, not in the lobby. It's sad that it has come to this. Voice communication is important in many of the games I play on Xbox LIVE, but it's not worth it having to listen to all the idiots that exists on the internets.
Posted: Jun 17th 2008 5:53PM (Unverified) said
The only reason people act so horribly on Xbox live is to get a reaction out of the people they are playing with and there are no consequences.
Their is really no way to prevent it though because of the huge number of people playing a huge number of games. The logistics of banning people and making sure you get the right people banned are too complicated. It sounds like a good idea but it wouldn't work in practice, you'd have all kinds of stories about how this or that person shouldn't have been banned. And where do you draw the line which swear words or off limits and which aren't, how can you prove somebody said something offensive, its a very large can of worms to open.
The funniest part of that whole discussion is that Xav keeps calling the people "retards". Which many people find an offensive word.
In the end though its only words and peoples reactions are the only ones that give them power, its not like xbox live is going to incite any kind of violence.
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Their is really no way to prevent it though because of the huge number of people playing a huge number of games. The logistics of banning people and making sure you get the right people banned are too complicated. It sounds like a good idea but it wouldn't work in practice, you'd have all kinds of stories about how this or that person shouldn't have been banned. And where do you draw the line which swear words or off limits and which aren't, how can you prove somebody said something offensive, its a very large can of worms to open.
The funniest part of that whole discussion is that Xav keeps calling the people "retards". Which many people find an offensive word.
In the end though its only words and peoples reactions are the only ones that give them power, its not like xbox live is going to incite any kind of violence.
Posted: Jun 20th 2008 11:01AM (Unverified) said
Long-time Joystiq 'lurver'. First-time X3F listener.
After listening to the commentary about the idiots on Xbox Live and its degradation over the years, I am converted, and will catch-up with the backlog.
Fantastic podcast, folks.
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After listening to the commentary about the idiots on Xbox Live and its degradation over the years, I am converted, and will catch-up with the backlog.
Fantastic podcast, folks.
Posted: Jun 20th 2008 12:02PM Clatu6 said
I just listened to the Fancast and I was a little frustrated with the discussion about idiots on Xbox Live.
I agree the culture needs to change and it could be policed more but Microsoft does give you the tools to help them identify people who are violating the terms of service with their racist and abusive comments.
Please! File a complaint. Don’t just click “Avoid this player.” Do the extras step and file a complaint. I know this works because I have been confronted by individuals on Halo 3 forum who I have filed complaints on and then have been banned from live. I’ve also gotten a couple of them banned from the Bungie forums because they sent me threatening PMs. The complaint system is Microsoft’s tool to help them identify jerks they can monitor.
I know it’s a drag. All you want to do is get online, play a couple of games and not have to deal with it.
Things will never change unless you stand up to these people. It frustrates me more that everyone complains all the time about these jerks and you never take personal responsibility and use the tools given to you to get these people banned.
I think the things Microsoft should do to make the service a little better are…
-Make the process of filing a complaint easier and less intimidating.
-Get rid of the star rating…it’s pointless and confuses people into thinking these are trusted folks on the service. Even Hitler had friends.
-Make it a standard (some games allow this) to allow people to access gamertag records in game so that you can permanently mute and or file a complaint instead of waiting until after the game is done and trying to remember which people were the jerks. For instance, it’s much more cumbersome process in COD4 compared to HALO.
Sorry for the wall of text. I just had to get it out of my system.
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I agree the culture needs to change and it could be policed more but Microsoft does give you the tools to help them identify people who are violating the terms of service with their racist and abusive comments.
Please! File a complaint. Don’t just click “Avoid this player.” Do the extras step and file a complaint. I know this works because I have been confronted by individuals on Halo 3 forum who I have filed complaints on and then have been banned from live. I’ve also gotten a couple of them banned from the Bungie forums because they sent me threatening PMs. The complaint system is Microsoft’s tool to help them identify jerks they can monitor.
I know it’s a drag. All you want to do is get online, play a couple of games and not have to deal with it.
Things will never change unless you stand up to these people. It frustrates me more that everyone complains all the time about these jerks and you never take personal responsibility and use the tools given to you to get these people banned.
I think the things Microsoft should do to make the service a little better are…
-Make the process of filing a complaint easier and less intimidating.
-Get rid of the star rating…it’s pointless and confuses people into thinking these are trusted folks on the service. Even Hitler had friends.
-Make it a standard (some games allow this) to allow people to access gamertag records in game so that you can permanently mute and or file a complaint instead of waiting until after the game is done and trying to remember which people were the jerks. For instance, it’s much more cumbersome process in COD4 compared to HALO.
Sorry for the wall of text. I just had to get it out of my system.
Posted: Jun 26th 2008 4:13AM Xav de Matos said
I think we make it clear that people should file a complaint. Maybe it was the next episode or previous ones but we very much encourage reporting and filing a complaint.
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