It's like explaining Metal Gear has become its own cottage industry. There are the actual Metal Gear games, and then there's trying to explain the Metal Gear story.
It's like explaining Metal Gear has become its own cottage industry. There are the actual Metal Gear games, and then there's trying to explain the Metal Gear story.
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Posted: Jun 18th 2008 7:33PM flameofdoom666 said
That's absolutely fantastic.
What's better, is that it can see if you beat the game or not, and filter out spoilers. Amazing.
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What's better, is that it can see if you beat the game or not, and filter out spoilers. Amazing.
Posted: Jun 18th 2008 7:38PM FernandoRocker said
It sold 500,000 here in USA first week.
Way below titles like GTA4, Mario Kart or Gears of War. But it should have good legs, because the bundle.
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Way below titles like GTA4, Mario Kart or Gears of War. But it should have good legs, because the bundle.
Posted: Jun 18th 2008 7:48PM (Unverified) said
Fernando where are you getting your numbers from?
Just curious?
I'm very interested to see just how well its sold. It seems like ps3 owners everywhere are buying it. At least on all the various forums I visit (bluray, gaming, etc.)
After this what other big games that sony have planned? R2 and Killzone 2 right? I'm guessing LBP is still out there (although I think its really overhyped).
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Just curious?
I'm very interested to see just how well its sold. It seems like ps3 owners everywhere are buying it. At least on all the various forums I visit (bluray, gaming, etc.)
After this what other big games that sony have planned? R2 and Killzone 2 right? I'm guessing LBP is still out there (although I think its really overhyped).
Posted: Jun 18th 2008 7:58PM (Unverified) said
Lol you are ridiculous man.
I prefer Texas Hold Em to that stuff.
Thanks for the info though....
In terms of consoles sold I'm thinking it will have a huge impact.
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I prefer Texas Hold Em to that stuff.
Thanks for the info though....
In terms of consoles sold I'm thinking it will have a huge impact.
Posted: Jun 18th 2008 7:59PM (Unverified) said
@ PerfectCompanion...
I think for the rest of the year, Sony is focusing their attention on:
Motorstorm: Pacific Rift
SOCOM: Confrontation
Resistance 2
LittleBigPlanet
Killzone 2 is marked for February 09
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I think for the rest of the year, Sony is focusing their attention on:
Motorstorm: Pacific Rift
SOCOM: Confrontation
Resistance 2
LittleBigPlanet
Killzone 2 is marked for February 09
Posted: Jun 18th 2008 8:01PM Kodros said
Fernando, Gears sold 606k and MSG4 sold 502k. How is that "Way below"? Keep in mind that MGS4 was also released on a Thursday instead of the normal Tuesday.
And of course it's not going to sell as much as Mario Kart and GTA4. Both of those appeal to a much wider audience then MGS4.
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And of course it's not going to sell as much as Mario Kart and GTA4. Both of those appeal to a much wider audience then MGS4.
Posted: Jun 18th 2008 8:02PM FernandoRocker said
I'm not bashing dude.... damn...
I was responding to FNG and nothing more.
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I was responding to FNG and nothing more.
Posted: Jun 18th 2008 8:15PM (Unverified) said
this game will sell plenty. This game is the best game this gen, better than any 360 game and wii game (though i must admit wii tennis was awesome). Im gonna be going through my third playthrough soon, i want stealth camo. Also when have sales mattered so much. No one pokes fun at mass effect and bioshock for not getting over 2 mill sold (according to vg chartz).
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Posted: Jun 18th 2008 8:20PM FernandoRocker said
"This game is the best game this gen, better than any 360 game and wii game"
According to who? PS fanboys?
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According to who? PS fanboys?
Posted: Jun 18th 2008 8:25PM (Unverified) said
Don't worry fernando, that's his opinion. Kinda like when you say Wii game X is the best game ever most of us just laugh and move on because we expected it from you.
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Posted: Jun 18th 2008 8:27PM Hyams said
The game sold half a million copies in its first week in the US, with a Thursday release no less. Those are huge numbers if you ask me. :)
Throw in another half a million sold in Japan, and another 400,000 for the rest of the world, MGS4 did pretty damn well, IMO.
(Note: all figures taken from vgcharts.)
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Throw in another half a million sold in Japan, and another 400,000 for the rest of the world, MGS4 did pretty damn well, IMO.
(Note: all figures taken from vgcharts.)
Posted: Jun 19th 2008 12:43AM (Unverified) said
I don't think it's wise for a nintendo supporter to knock another system's original IPs and fresh sequels. In fact that's probably the worst thing you could bring up.
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Posted: Jun 18th 2008 7:36PM Spunky Monkey 190906 said
Good, I'm sure theres many confazzled MGS4 players
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Posted: Jun 18th 2008 8:16PM (Unverified) said
Im still sorta confused, hopefully this will enlighten me some more.
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Posted: Jun 19th 2008 12:59PM dkffiv said
The story is not confusing at all, unlike MGS2, *IF* you played through all five previous games (never owned a PSP so I'm not sure if Portable Ops ties in or not).
Trying not to get into spoilers, but it does a great job addressing how the hero of MGS3 becomes the villian of MG1 & 2. Virtually every question you may have from what seem to be inconsistencies between games gets addressed.
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Trying not to get into spoilers, but it does a great job addressing how the hero of MGS3 becomes the villian of MG1 & 2. Virtually every question you may have from what seem to be inconsistencies between games gets addressed.
Posted: Jun 19th 2008 1:12PM Spunky Monkey 190906 said
MGSPO covers the futher journeys of Big Boss and how he became the legend he is now, portable ops plus takes place just before the time in MGS4, so they do tie in, they are just not that crucial to the key plot.
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Posted: Jun 18th 2008 7:52PM (Unverified) said
So watching cut scenes is not enough? ok I get it.
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Posted: Jun 18th 2008 8:03PM (Unverified) said
not everybody still have their old MSX/NES with MG and MG2 .. but your so cool, you probably have all the MG games ever released..
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Posted: Jun 18th 2008 7:53PM (Unverified) said
I'm currently on Act V– This is one of the greatest games ever made. I don't want it to end.
Every PS3 owner should pick this game up. It's amazing.
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Every PS3 owner should pick this game up. It's amazing.
Posted: Jun 18th 2008 8:12PM (Unverified) said
It is a real shame alot of people won't pick this game up because they on;y like to shoot things without thinking (i.e. cod4, good game though). I think this is a game that should be experienced by all ps3 owners.
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Posted: Jun 18th 2008 8:34PM (Unverified) said
In case you can't wait for this I have made my own diagram explaining the complex plot of the MGS series.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e387/comradetrotskii/nanomachines-1.jpg
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http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e387/comradetrotskii/nanomachines-1.jpg
Posted: Jun 18th 2008 8:44PM (Unverified) said
Oh... that was a joke!
And the WTF is so cool, who would have thought about that? Ever tried a comedian career?
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And the WTF is so cool, who would have thought about that? Ever tried a comedian career?
Posted: Jun 18th 2008 8:48PM (Unverified) said
Yeah, I failed and now I spend my days just trying to annoy people on Joystiq.
What gives though chief? You seem a little uptight there about not much at all.
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What gives though chief? You seem a little uptight there about not much at all.
Posted: Jun 18th 2008 10:00PM SheppyReturns said
Maybe because you've managed to troll every MGS4 thread and still have NO clue about the plot.
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Posted: Jun 19th 2008 2:48PM (Unverified) said
Ha ha troll every MGS thread? Are you serious? I'd like to see any evidence of that.
I fucking love Metal Gear Solid, love it so much that I don't feel insecure when people are a little negative about it, love it so much that I can make a joke about it.
As for the plot, I have no major issue with it, the cutscenes drag on a little unnecessarily from time to time but I have no issue with the actual plot.
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I fucking love Metal Gear Solid, love it so much that I don't feel insecure when people are a little negative about it, love it so much that I can make a joke about it.
As for the plot, I have no major issue with it, the cutscenes drag on a little unnecessarily from time to time but I have no issue with the actual plot.
Posted: Jun 19th 2008 3:04PM (Unverified) said
What I meant to say there was I understand the plot perfectly.
Checking my comment history it appears that 'I fucking love Metal Gear Solid' is the first value judgement I have ever made on MGS on Joystiq, crude pictures notwithstanding. So I really don't get where you get the impression that I have trolled every MGS thread.
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Checking my comment history it appears that 'I fucking love Metal Gear Solid' is the first value judgement I have ever made on MGS on Joystiq, crude pictures notwithstanding. So I really don't get where you get the impression that I have trolled every MGS thread.
Posted: Jun 18th 2008 8:54PM (Unverified) said
Awesome to have this explain the storyline.
Now I can go back to saying "Snake, Snake, SNAAAAKE!"
Instead of "What, What, WHAAAAAAT?!?"
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Now I can go back to saying "Snake, Snake, SNAAAAKE!"
Instead of "What, What, WHAAAAAAT?!?"
Posted: Jun 18th 2008 10:56PM Stink Snake said
This game shits all over story telling conventions and common sense and tells you to like it. And I do.
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Posted: Jun 19th 2008 12:30AM (Unverified) said
rofl, your comment goes well along with your avatar, it reminds of those Uncle Sam pamphlets...
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Posted: Jun 19th 2008 1:26PM (Unverified) said
Hands down no movie viewer was the BIGGEST disappointment for me of the entire game.
No doubt when MGS4: subsistananced comes out it will have a bonus disc containing all the movies. I am still pissed at the fact that MGS3 Subsistance is going for $200.00 on ebay.
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No doubt when MGS4: subsistananced comes out it will have a bonus disc containing all the movies. I am still pissed at the fact that MGS3 Subsistance is going for $200.00 on ebay.
Posted: Jun 19th 2008 8:47AM (Unverified) said
I found myself attempting to explain the full Metal Gear story to a buddy yesterday. It's a painful experience, I'm sure this diagram would have come in handy. MGS, MGS 3 and MGS 4 have complicated stories but they all make sense for the most part and are relatively easy to follow. MGS 2 on the other hand really is a mess. It almost seems like MGS 3 and MGS 4 exist to make sense of MGS 2.
Overall, I love the series. The story and characters are entertaining, despite the fact that it gets overly convoluted and the dialog can be inconsistent at times.
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Overall, I love the series. The story and characters are entertaining, despite the fact that it gets overly convoluted and the dialog can be inconsistent at times.
Posted: Jun 19th 2008 10:08AM (Unverified) said
as epic, forward thinking, and convoluted as the MGS saga is, it's great to have something like this to examine the little things that you missed/forgot along the way. MGS4 is an absolute masterpiece.
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