Ubisoft needs help picking Prince of Persia achievements

I've enjoyed a lot of GTAIV's ch33voz. I'm almost done with the ones that I realistically think I can unlock. Currently at 610gp. Don't have the time to search for every pigeon or get 100% completion since I wanna get back to NG2 and start MGS4 tomorrow. I'll shelf it until the DLC comes in.

Just them? I think in the history of Achievements, the sole games with truly excellent achievements have been Crackdown and The Orange Box, IMO. Everything else is either too generic (beat level 1, then 2... then the game) or requires too much grinding (10,000 kills, 500 flags, complete without dying) that takes away from the enjoyment of the game.

Hopefully they'll (Ubisoft, and subsequently everyone) find a nice balance of game progression achievements, cool "playing" / off-the-beaten-path achievements, skill based achievements, and subconscious "grinding" achievements.

I like achievements that allow you to explore the game in a way you wouldn't have if there werent any in there. Assassins Creed has some dumb ones but I still enjoyed exploring the cities. Beautiful game.

Crackdown I've had the most fun getting the Achievements. I was disappointed in GTA4's achievements because I was expecting them to be better then Crackdown.

Right now I'm playing through Lego Indiana Jones and I'm liking their achievement system your getting them pretty often and I think all 1000 are achievable by a normal person having fun with the game. The secret ones are pretty funny also.

I dunno Fenix, some of the GTA4 ones would take you having the willpower to grind and grind without gaining much fun in it.

Take the pigeon one for example - driving around the city looking for 200 birds to kill is pretty damn tedious and is only being completed by people using the highlighted maps I would bet. The damn things are too hard to see to just stumble upon 200 of them.

I think they would do better to not have collection type achievements. Those are pretty weak.

I got all the stunt jumps and I have 199/200 pidgeons, but that one last fucker I missed somewhere when looking at the guide and so far I haven't had the willpower to go through all 200 again. I'll get it someday though. Even when I do get it I think I'll only be at around 98% done :(

Exactly Duke, thats why I dont do those. No fun AND takes forever.

The problems with GTA4's achievements were threefold:

1. Encouraging people to rush through a game that is built to have people take its time is foolish. I'm sure the "beat the game in under 30hrs" achievement was put in to convince people to play through the game a 2nd time, but instead it just makes people, on their first playthrough, have this little voice in the back of their head saying "maybe if I skip this sidequest or skip checking out this new part of the city or skip the whole dating thing, I can get that 30 hours achievement". The game was built with the extra stuff in mind, while the achievement encourages the exact opposite.

2. Multiplayer achievements in ranked matches only. This is a fault of many games, so I can let it slide.

3. This is the worst, it's like #2 but extended. Co-op achievements in ranked matches only. That means you can't get the achievements when playing co-op with a friend, but rather have to play co-op with some random person from the GP to get the achievements. That. Is. Terrible. The whole point of co-op is to play with friends.

Vcize

I beat the game in 27 hours and trust me I messed around in Liberty City a lot. I didn't really feel like I was rushed either. Taking cabs saved some time on cross island trips but I never felt really rushed. Still, I know what you mean and I can see how some might feel like that.

I can't agree with you. I think the GH & RB achievements blow.

So then tell me, what game has the best achievements, in your opinion?

I really need to finish that game...

Bioshock had very good achievements. And no online achievements. Not everyone has gold or wants to go online.

Yes, those weapon achievements in NG2 suck major balls. Glad they are only 5gp each so they dont take a major chunk outta the points. The main points come from beating it on each difficulty setting. I only plan on beating Acolyte and Warrior. Overall the game is great and I'm really enjoying it.

Yeah I'm with you FenixKnight - I'm surprised with just how much I'm enjoying NG2!

I see what you did there.

I LOVE those types of achievements, like failing or dying enough times. Definitely need one of those so even players like me get some points. :)

My cats will never forgive me for that one. Let's expand on that idea, how about "Aggressive Consumer: Purchase at least two replacement controllers for the ones you threw out the window in anger"? I've known a few folks who've done that.

Yeah, I forget what game, but I was dying CONSTANTLY. I remember seeing the cat walk by and thinking, "oh, you're lucky my anger is under control"

I think, if there'd been an achievement for it, the cat may not have been so lucky...

Well, I never threw my controllers and so I realise this is aimed at xGeneral DEATHx, but what I mention is when I simply start being really bad for no reason. I could be rocking the Call of Duty 4 or Halo 3 or Battlefield 2 or TF 2 and then suddenly I start playing like a hamster with a yoyo. That's what frustrates me to the point of looking for the nearest cat to kick...

Single player tho, there's games like ninja gaiden black... holy frikkin crap, on hard it's crazy. Got it eventually tho.

Hehe...I know exactly what you mean, Tim. Some nights I get on COD4 and I put the game down like an Oakland Pimp...and then some nights I question my sanity because I'm playing like a tree sloth on downers. Those are the times (multiplayer mainly) that I REALLY want to throw something...and I usually spare my cats from the rage. HOWEVER, Ninja Gaiden Black?? Holy sh*t, that game made a rage well up within me that even the Gods have scarcely witnessed. Great game, though.

Well, I never threw my controllers and so I realise this is aimed at xGeneral DEATHx, but what I mention is when I simply start being really bad for no reason. I could be rocking the Call of Duty 4 or Halo 3 or Battlefield 2 or TF 2 and then suddenly I start playing like a hamster with a yoyo. That's what frustrates me to the point of looking for the nearest cat to kick...

Single player tho, there's games like ninja gaiden black... holy frikkin crap, on hard it's crazy. Got it eventually tho.

Well, I never threw my controllers and so I realise this is aimed at xGeneral DEATHx, but what I mention is when I simply start being really bad for no reason. I could be rocking the Call of Duty 4 or Halo 3 or Battlefield 2 or TF 2 and then suddenly I start playing like a hamster with a yoyo. That's what frustrates me to the point of looking for the nearest cat to kick...

Single player tho, there's games like ninja gaiden black... holy frikkin crap, on hard it's crazy. Got it eventually tho.

Well, I never threw my controllers and so I realise this is aimed at xGeneral DEATHx, but what I mention is when I simply start being really bad for no reason. I could be rocking the Call of Duty 4 or Halo 3 or Battlefield 2 or TF 2 and then suddenly I start playing like a hamster with a yoyo. That's what frustrates me to the point of looking for the nearest cat to kick...

Single player tho, there's games like ninja gaiden black... holy frikkin crap, on hard it's crazy. Got it eventually tho.

Holy crap, triple post! Damn comments systeeeeeem!

And yeah, that's the problem right? They're so good! No matter how earth shattering your cries of frustration are, you still want, no, MUST keep playing!

Like the Colonel, with his wee-beady little eyes putting addictive chemicals in his chicken, making you crave it fortnightly...