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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 10:19AM (Unverified) said

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Very interesting but I'm more interested in the games in the background of the picture.

Final Doom sick,Quake FTW but no Diablo? WTF? and where in the world is Hexen? Everybody should play Hexen at least once in their lives.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 10:30AM (Unverified) said

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Heretic/Hexxen definetly...
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 10:51AM Dolar said

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I think I see Jedi Knight 2 there, and Return to castle wolfenstein too. So these are all the games he's worked on? Pretty impressive.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 11:17AM (Unverified) said

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I'd imagine they're just a load of Activision games actually, rather than ones related to that guy.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 11:40AM ComicShaman said

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Ah, Hexen. Now you're talking. I have sweet memories of Hexen deathmatches after hours in the office where I used to work. There's a series I wish somebody would revive.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 1:04PM (Unverified) said

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The caption says that the games behind him are ones he worked on, so I can only assume that he did not work on Hexen or Heretic.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 3:03PM (Unverified) said

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Hopefully you don't mean hexen 64, cause I made the mistake of playing that. You people think today's games are dark and dreary? play hexen 64
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 10:21AM (Unverified) said

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Sweet! More CoD info! :p
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 10:31AM (Unverified) said

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But then again the caption does state.. Games he has worked on not what he has played necessarily...
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 10:44AM CarlitosColon said

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Whew! I was starting to worry there wouldn't be any COD5 coverage today. I need my hourly reminder that I don't give a crap about this game.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 1:16PM (Unverified) said

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You cared enough to reply.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 1:25PM (Unverified) said

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This ever so nearly made me lol.

And replying is not a measure of how much one cares for anything.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 10:48AM (Unverified) said

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We are the Lamia of the poooooool. We have been waiting for our waters to bring you cool...
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 12:19PM servo said

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I've lurked here for years, and never felt the urge to post. However, I must give props to anyone who quotes Peter Gabriel from The Lamb. Props to you, farfisa.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 12:36PM evilbastard said

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Saw a band called The Musical Box about two years ago. They did a complete faithful live rendition of The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, including all the costumes. Way freaking cool.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 1:18PM (Unverified) said

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It's not often you can pull out "The Lamia" and have people know what the hell you're talking about--props back to you!
I saw the Musical Box over twelve years ago (so they've been doing Genesis twice as long as Gabriel did) and they recreated the Selling England tour. Would love to have seen them do the Lamb though!
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 2:36PM servo said

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I saw the Musical Box "Selling England by the Pound" tour myself. It was remarkable to me how they nail that era of Genesis so well. I missed the Lamb tour, but I sure wish I could have seen it. Man, two other Gabriel era Genesis fans on Joystiq... never would have guessed!
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 1:16PM (Unverified) said

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My problem is that he is just making PR excuses for why they are still using the WWII as the primary theme. The fact that they could not communicate with IW on what kind of game they were making to help up the ante on their end is inexcusable. Also if COD4 was developed after COD:WAW started their development and they both have the same development time of 2 years, then someone at Treyarch or IW has access to a time dilation field in order to get COD4 done before COD:WAW. WAW should have been done well before COD4 at that point.

I can only begin to speculate why these events occurred the way they have but either way it sounds like a mediocre design decision for them to continue down the path of WWII...pacific theater of war or not. If they wanted to do a pacific theater of war they should have moved on to Vietnam. There are far more interesting things they could have done with the Vietnam War than WWII in the Pacific (yay we now have flamethrowers...whoopdeedo). In the end you are left with the same weapons we all are used to for WWII (M1AI Carbine, M1 Carbine, BAR, etc.).

It will take a lot more than a flamethrower and Japanese Soldiers with Katanas for Treyarch to overcome the rancid stigma of COD3.

Just my opinion...I could be wrong.
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Posted: Jun 25th 2008 11:48PM Nuisance said

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Their excuse for making another WW2 game shouldn't need to be said, its as simple as saying "We wanted to." Honestly, aside from the weapons, the gameplay is going to differentiated enough, and if weapon diversity is your problem, you would of stopped playing shooters at Half Life 2.

To the time comment, I can't comprehend how you mixed that up. Year One: IW Begins CoD2 360. Year Two: Treyarch begins CoD3. Year Three: CoD2 360 Ships. CoD4 is started Year Four: CoD3 Ships, CoD5 is started. Year Five: CoD4 Ships, CoHalo started. And it keeps on in that pattern.

Sorry for the way I phrased the response, I type for the lowest common denominator. However, I will give you this, I would rather use duct tape to remove my pubes than play CoD3.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 11:56AM Duke said

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So, will this game be a nex-gen title? Will the Wii version be the same game as the others, or just the same experience? ? Will it actually be "COD5"? Will it provide screenshots to look over?

These are things We need a massive dose of! Life without more WaW news could lead to us all falling apart.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 12:43PM mrmobius said

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Take some pixels away and add some IR and you get the Wii version hopefully. Be nice if could have multi-platform online play but lets face it that would be almost impossible.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 11:59AM (Unverified) said

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Thankfully, we're now done with killing nazis and have moved on to imperialist Japanese. That was a much different battle front than the one in Europe. Hopefully, this game will be interesting.

Now, how about we move on to another war? No games have fully conveyed the intensity of the Korean or Vietnam Wars. Why not make games detailing those conflicts? How about wars that didn't involve America? The Spanish Civil War? The Red Movement in China? How about the Crimeon War, or even World War 1? There's a lot of oppurtunity in exploring these important eras of history. RTS, FPS, or otherwise.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 12:27PM (Unverified) said

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This is how World War I: The Game would play out: Hide in a trench, keep hiding in a trench, stay in that trench, oh! pop out and shoot a little, advance a couple of feet, hide in a trench, keep hiding in a trench...
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 12:31PM finnith said

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A World War One game would consist of waiting hours in a trench trying not to be killed by trench foot or artillery fire until being sent over the top and being killed instantly by machine gun fire, so no.

The Vietnam War has been done many times on the Xbox, PS2 and Gamecube. I guess they could make a game for this generation of consoles.

The Crimean War was way too long ago for most people to know it. (That's a bad reason I know)

Really, the only valid war in that list would be the Korean War.

A more recent war can't be covered, can it?
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 12:45PM mrmobius said

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There were some Gulf War games last gen if I remember. They seemed to be uncompatable with the current gen of shooters though - they were all shades of yellow instead of the current gen shades of green, grey and brown.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 1:23PM Duke said

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A Korean War game would have some potential. Imagine the "oh shit!" feeling as you're platoon gets close to the Chinese border to only see their army to start flooding over to join the fight.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 5:27PM aughscreennames said

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They wont move to a different war until they beat the middle east theme to death like they did with WW2. So you better get used to middle east games, youre going to be playing them for at least 7 more years.

These companies are allergic to originality. Being creative would kill them.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 1:05PM (Unverified) said

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How long do they get to work on this game? Two years?
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 12:35PM (Unverified) said

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I'm still not convinced. I'm tired of WWII settings, weapons, etc. I think I'll stick to night vision and modern weapons with red dot sight attachments. Besides, I'm sure COD 6 will have co-op too and you can imagine the bad-ass weapons they'll have.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 1:19PM (Unverified) said

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SCRAPE this game. No one believes your spoon fed BS, Treyarch. WW2 games are boring and will be complete failures. Have fun wasting money on marketing and development, I seriously hope you guys fail and have to close shop.

Dont release junk just because you have been "working" on it for awhile or for the hell of it. Take blizzard for example, they have been working on Starcraft Ghost for a long time but will eventually scrape it because the game does not live up to the company standards. They have done this with many games in the past (warcraft adventures), and look at them now.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 1:24PM Duke said

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What would you scrape off these games?
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 1:45PM CarlitosColon said

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I'm also disappointed about the setting, but hoping they fail & have to close shop is a little harsh, no?
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 2:14PM xGeneral DEATHxDEETH82 said

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Apparently he'd scrape the WWII off to reveal the unicorns and ice cream underneath.
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 4:29PM Mr Khan said

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They have made the very bold claim that there's will be the best looking of all Wii games

Somehow i doubt this, even in the sphere of 3rd party titles
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Posted: Jun 24th 2008 8:40PM (Unverified) said

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Haha.. I love how the only card this dude ever plays is "we've had two years!" "WE'VE HAD TWO YEARS!" "it's going to be awesome because (and for no other reason that he can attest) we've had two years!"

Well dude... honestly, if that's the only claim you can make as to why your next game is going to rule, then it must already suck pretty bad. If it had any redeeming values at this point in time, he'd be spouting about them, not about how much time they've had to produce the title.

So what happens when this game sucks after they've had two years?

I'll keep waiting for IW's COD6: Moderner Warfare.
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Posted: Jun 25th 2008 2:07AM (Unverified) said

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I love how everyone knows that Treyarch is such an inferior developer to IW. Even IW knows it: the cod 4 exe file for the singleplayer is called "iw3sp.exe", as in the third IW COD game's singleplayer, instead of anything COD4 related.
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Posted: Jun 25th 2008 9:41PM (Unverified) said

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ok ppl, lets not forget that THIS IS CALL OF DUTY!! they have always made the best WW2 games!and this will not only be covering the pacific, about 2 minutes into the vid, it shows russians! covering their heads while a tank fires right beside them, then a lil l8tr it shows russians holding 2 nazis against a wall hostage and r set as a firing squad +)
not only the funny eyed ppl will u b killing, but those damned skinheads=)
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Posted: Jun 28th 2008 8:22AM (Unverified) said

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looks cool, not to bothered by it though, ill just stick to COD4
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Posted: Jun 28th 2008 8:36AM (Unverified) said

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i won't be picking up a copy of this.
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