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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 1:27PM Jez360 said

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The Nintendo Wii has a 512 MB HDD...
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 1:32PM (Unverified) said

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The Wii uses flash memory, seriously, when was the last time you heard of a hard drive with under 70GB of space? They don't make hard drives that small, and the hard drive is probably a 500GB one.
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 1:33PM Softserve said

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I think it's technically a flash drive.
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 1:34PM Jez360 said

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Oh, fair enough
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 3:31PM (Unverified) said

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When is the first time you've heard of a 70 GB hard drive?
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Posted: Jun 28th 2008 2:53PM x Prime x said

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The wii doesn't have a hard drive, it uses flash memory.
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Posted: Jun 28th 2008 3:18PM Jez360 said

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Yeah I think I got that by now Brian, cheers
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 1:28PM Sgt Cell said

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How about adding a Samsung BLu-ray drive to boot?
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 1:38PM (Unverified) said

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Now thats using the ol noggin...

Wouldnt it be some shit if thats how MS brought BluRay into XBOX...
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 1:39PM Cabal said

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Its possible they don't mean HDD, but 512MB memory card. OR they could have integrated 512MB flash storage.
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 1:39PM Apocalyptic 0n3 said

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To the person above: The Wii uses flash memory, no? It's why people are always wanting a hard drive for it and Nintendo keeps saying no.

As for that debunking this rumor, I doubt it. Obviously it wouldn't be a hard drive but flash memory like the Wii. The Arcade already ships with no hard drive so why would so little an amount of memory surprise you? An LCD couldn't fit a hard drive inside it so it would have to be flash memory. And since flash memory is still relatively expensive, I doubt they would put very much in there at all. The TV will already be expensive because Samsung (or whatever company) would have to pay licensing fees to Microsoft so why add more to the cost and potentially push it out of the target audience of college-bound students, apartment goers, and children's bedrooms?

The TV won't be big and probably won't be higher than 720p for that reason. But looking at who this sort of product would be pushed towards, what is stated sounds right on the nail to me. And honestly, this was the first thing I thought of when I read that rumor on Digg. Honestly, I think it would be a great move by Microsof so long as they push customer service nightmares off onto the manufacturer and not to their own department.
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 2:04PM pekosROB said

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First of all, I don't think they would ship with 512 MB of memory, unless they don't want this TV (which I think is a complete rumor at this point) to play old school Xbox games. Obviously you couldn't download an Xbox Original on 512 MB, and the current 360s have a 7 or 8 GB partition for the emulation software. 360s and original Xboxes have different GPUs, one is from nVidia and the other from ATI. That's why you never see "120 GB" or "20 GB" available on a brand new Xbox...
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 2:18PM (Unverified) said

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Not particularly aimed at you Josh, but my opinion on some of the things you mentioned in your post:

A. This is a bullshit photoshopped image. That doesn't mean Microsoft isn't working on this, but this add is pure bullshit.

B. A laptop size SATA drive (like the one in that giant shell that Microsoft uses, and like the one in the PS3) could certainly fit inside an LCD. They fit in laptops that are much smaller than most LCD televisions. In fact, they could fit a ton of them into my 42" LCD.

C. Wait until those TVs RRoD on everyone! No more Gears 2 and no more American Idol! Poor Bastards!
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 1:44PM imapotato said

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What a silly, counter-intuitive device.
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 2:03PM (Unverified) said

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if thats true I will be pissed. I just bought a 37' samsung lcd hdtv less then a month ago.
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 3:15PM (Unverified) said

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37' TV.... man i wanna watch football at your house. :)
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 2:05PM (Unverified) said

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So when the 360 component red rings, where do you ship the ENTIRE TV off to? Microsoft or Samsung? And do you want to be without a TV for that long?
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 2:08PM (Unverified) said

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I love my 360, I love my samsung. Do I want my console integrated into it? NO!!!! Imagine all the times youve had to send your 360 back having to send off a whole TV, NIGHTMARE personified!!!
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 2:09PM (Unverified) said

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Damn it WastinMyFlavor, you read my mind and were faster than me, although as my above comment shows, i agree with you whole heartedly.
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 2:19PM Joeybeast said

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Why the hell would you want your 360 in your TV????
To save a power plug and some cables?

Oh, and what if it red ringed?
the coffin will have to be a lot bigger.
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 2:33PM (Unverified) said

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Give me a bigger HDD, and im sold!!
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 2:43PM (Unverified) said

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Once again, Microsoft knows the history of Trip Hawkins and the 3DO, it knows that the open-ended model of console building has not nor ever will work, and ultimately this is just a silly rumor to get people worked up over nothing.

MS is not going to farm out the tech specs that they spent years developing and give up the control over the hardware itself. If it won't allow unlicensed controller it sure as heck isn't going to allow other companies to manufacture their own 360s. There's a reason why consoles are closed systems.
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 3:39PM Hellvector said

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I like the idea of a 360 themed TV, especially if they made one to match my Elite. The idea of a 360 built into the TV however, not so much. There just isn't a visible market for it. Those who want a 360 already have one, or don't because they can't justify spending the money on one. That group of people definitely won't be buying this sort of product, as it will likely dwarf the price of the 360 at least 2.5x.
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 4:01PM (Unverified) said

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Well, Samsung already has a series of Laptops called the X-Series so does that debunk the rumor? Or make it more confusing?
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 7:55PM (Unverified) said

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So when you get the RROD would ya have to send the whole tv in for repairs?
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 7:56PM Crockett said

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Neat, well only in black.
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Posted: Jun 27th 2008 11:34PM (Unverified) said

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Can't wait for that TV to get the RRoD and you are without your precious 42" 1080p LCD HDTV for two months... not worth it...
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Posted: Jun 29th 2008 10:38AM (Unverified) said

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portable version??????
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Posted: Jun 28th 2008 3:52PM GrendelPr1me said

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I'd be remiss if I said that I wasn't waiting for something like this after the horrendously branded "XBOX Ready" TVs that RCA released a few years ago, that had the *gasp* VPORT. Too bad RCA couldn't pony up the dough, and think to actually ship the cord that could take advantage of the VPORT in the box. If Joytech can do that with their 540C control center, you'd think Thomson could have done it with their product.

But if it is a Samsung, that also is unsurprising as there is an obvious partnership there, and Microsoft could have chosen worse. I don't know if I want to pick up a green and white TV, but for the right price, even if it is "just" 720p, I may give it a second look.
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Posted: Jun 30th 2008 11:25AM (Unverified) said

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Would be nice as a 2nd TV :)
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Posted: Jun 30th 2008 7:16PM Korova Pamplona said

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If its a bargain compared to getting the things separately, it would be an attractive 2nd TV. No more than U$700.
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Posted: Jul 1st 2008 11:57AM (Unverified) said

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HP is already making TV's with built in Media Center Extenders, so either MS has taken the short leap to this idea or an insignificant rumor monger has.

we shall see...
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