Sony: First-party games 'more important' this generation

They sure been.

"they" as in Sony has, but seeing that Yoshida is on board with that and actively doing it IS news.

sorry....didn't have anythign to respond to as far as your comment, but the long kiss goodnite is such a good/funny movie.

but on a side note, i'm sick n' tired of hearing this bullshiet about increasing costs for developers. As far as i know, when gran turismo 5 (final release) comes out, i'm going to pay 59.99 for it. I paid 49.99 for gran turismo 4 and 3, and i believe 39.99 for gran turismo 1 and 2. This isn't just. I'm curious to where this extra 20 bucks over the last 8-9 years is heading...cuz it sure as hell isn't inflation. And even the cost of media/packaging isn't a good excuse either.

its not a dick its a duck. i remember when games on nintendo cost around $50 to $70 new. that was because of the cartridge and the licences to nintendo. sega games also. then CDs made it cheaper. games cost more to make. sony set the base price of $40 in ps1 days, and $50 in the ps2 days. this gen its $60. the MS promised $50 first party titles, that didn't last.

lol, nice ref

Uh-huh. Sure crazy anti-nintendo person. You go on and believe that. I mean it's totally not because most 3rd party developers create shit for the system and the ones that do make good games don't even know how to market to the casual gamer. Nope, it's definitely Nintendo's fault. DAMN THEM AND THEIR SOLID FIRST PARTY TITLES!!

Its both the third party devs and Nintendos fault, Nintendo fails to see whats happening in order to help third party devs make changes and so, third party devs continue to make shit. Simple as that, and thus the reason why very few third party games are worth picking up on Wii.

Really, huh. Nintendo bans 3rd party developers, huh. I guess that's why everyone complains about shovelware on the Wii, then... because shovelware developers are banned from producing software on the console.

I have a crazy contrary theory. How about the fact that the hardware specs on the Wii are about half of the specs on the other two consoles? Maybe most of the 3rd party developers see the Wii as a less viable candidate for their time and attention?

Really, huh. Nintendo bans 3rd party developers, huh. I guess that's why everyone complains about shovelware on the Wii, then... because shovelware developers are banned from producing software on the console.

I have a crazy contrary theory. How about the fact that the hardware specs on the Wii are about half of the specs on the other two consoles? Maybe most of the 3rd party developers see the Wii as a less viable candidate for their time and attention?

Crap. Sorry.

Exactly!

Yep I agree. Sony's been fucking up lately I mean whats there to hope for this holiday(unless gamestop is right and FFXIII really does come out this year).

Top 3
Resistance 2 will get thrashed by Gears 2 in sales and thats not fanboyism speaking thats just pure fact and history also tells the tale.

SOCOM it might be good but not good enough to make the PS3 sales spike.

LBP might open up a whole new world but I doubt a lot of people are willing to pay $500 to play a casual game when theres the Wii and also it might be interesting to PS3 owners but that never makes sales spike or even go up.

To be honest, that arguement is kinda dead now, with the exception of EA, most games out these days look very similar on both consoles and EVEN if it looks better on 360, the differences are so minimal that only a complete nerd would moan about or even take time to notice the difference unless the PS3 version simply looks so crap its unplayable, much like Half Life.

All in all, first party games ARE more important this gen, because Sony could target third party devs until the cows come home, but without the system capabilities, ease of use and the 100% support from Sony, nothing much is going to be done, all Sony can do really is help where needed and work in thier strong areas. People who buy a PS3 for the first party games will buy third party games and not care about whether or not it looks better on 360 as long as they have fun playing the damn thing. Just the same way those of you who bought 360s alone for the likes of Halo 3 and picked up third party games wouldn't think twice about how the games compare on PS3, as long as you have the game and it works, fullstop. People who take the time to compare games that have little difference are the ones who are 30 years old plus and live with thier mothers. They then pass that unusful information down to use gamers to throw about the internet in fanboy arguments.

Are you to tell me that when you get a game you actually sit and compare the two, or check all video comparisons?

Just an insight.

That isn't the point Mavrick Saturn.
Sony's promise was/is a superior console. It SHOULD be able to do more with every 3rd party game, like the xbox was to the PS2. It SHOULD be able to render more objects on screen, do more physics calculations, have better textures, etc, and be able to do so in true HD at 60fps.
To have a game even SLIGHTLY inferior to the 360's is an insult to Sony's promise, and to their supporters.

Most games are 3rd party. Hence most of a PS3's owner's games will, by your argument, look the same as their friend's 360...that got their console for $200 cheaper.

While it is true that things have gotten better with certain developers, there is still no compelling reason to say the PS3 is superior, 3rd party wise.

I agree, can't cut you up there at all, but that goes back to the reason why they should make first party games thier main focus, and slightly contradicts your point.

PS3 SHOULD be doing all the things they stupidly promised back when they were all smoking crack as celebration for the success of PS2, but this is not the PS2 gen, things have changed, making games is more expensive, thus the reason PS1 and 2 could rely on third parties and good graphics to win, not to mention the fact PS1 and 2 were easier to program for. The original Xbox, graphics, power and all still couldn't beat that. Where 360 prevails is the ease of use and third party support, but even 360 can't rely on third parties all the time unless Microsoft is willing to cough up the cash, which it did for Bioshock to secure the timed exclusivity, to secure the Gears name, to secure the additional GTA4 content, to get Last Remnant timed. Sony can't do that, yeah they made promises and yeah, they were dumb as hell promises, but now is now, and it makes sense to concentrate thier resources in areas that will make them succeed. If what you're saying is right and third party titles look better on 360, then you've pretty much summed up the reason why Sony should stack up the pressure in the first party department. If people see lots of nice looking games on PS3 they want, they will buy PS3, third party titles looking better or worse will mean little to them as long as they have the games they want on that console, and as first parties are exclusive, it means they will potentially MAKE PS3.

Third party games are really if you look at it, bonuses for a console, and if Sony spots something that takes thier interest, much like MGS4, no doubt it makes sense to secure that third party title as an exclusive, but for the time being, first party titles will aid the PS3 alone, nothing much can be done about the state of third parties except to ensure they keep appearing on PS3 and don't go exclusive to other consoles. Without the cash and full support of Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo, third party devs have control over which console they want to make money off of, if they decide to go exclusive or multiplat without any incentive, its completly up to them.

guys, could you please make your fanboy arguments shorter, i almost got my finger broken for scrolling down that much

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Microsoft has been a developer-oriented company for years. I don't think they will get much ahead.

I don't think the n64 even had first party support. One game a year sucks.

When those first party games are some of the best games of all time (super smash bros, both zelda's, Mario 64, Paper Mario) they figured that would be enough, but we all know how that turned out

They didn't say there would be no third party support, where are people getting these facts?

All they said is first party is more important, and they are 100% right, Sony is lacking in the first party department. They should be concentrating on third party, yes, but with so many games going multiplat, there is only two choices, be like Microsoft, start spending to get third party exclusives or simply start making more first party original games.

I agree.

Nintendo hands down, demolishes everyone, when it comes into 1st party games. Honestly, that's what is keeping the Wii alive at this point. If someone had a 360 and a Wii, and Gears of War 2 was out on both consoles, which do you think would sell more? 360 / PS3 are for the hardcore gamers, while Wii is for the fun, all around video gamers.

In my opionoin, 1st party games should not really be on the list of Sony's to do list. You want to get better 3rd party support, so people won't automatically buy a game on the 360, even though it's on the PS3 as well.

1st party games are important, but not in Sony's aspect. Nintendo, 100%. Microsoft, is doing quite well, with Halo 3, Gears of War 2, Fable II, Viva Pinata, etc. Microsoft is giving it a push, but Nintendo is the king.

Coming it is, patience you must have, for a jedi you are.

Thier original plan, yeah, kudos, because before they had tunnel vision.

"We are supreme, all our games will rock the earth, we own third parties" etc etc

Its good to see them making good business decisions now, rather then stupid desperate and childish ones.

Last gen, third party devs were paying much less to make games then they are this gen, this gen, we are talking movie making sort of money spent. Its nothing to do with Sony conceding defeat, its everything to do with what seems most sensible, Microsoft is already doing the very same thing. Both companies unless willing to pay for every and all title, have to consider stacking up the FP titles if they want to stay in the game while still managing to remain close with thier third party partners like Sony does with Konami and Microsoft does with Valve.

Its like you, if you want to succeed in life, you will have to do most of the things yourself, others can't always be there to save you. They have thier own lives to worry about, and the same goes for 3rd parties looking to make big bucks.