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Posted: Jul 11th 2008 10:36AM Duke said

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It just looks like something you would have buyers regret over in a week and never want to use again. Its ugly as hell and has no elegance to it at all. The wiimote at least has clean lines and a small size.

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 10:36AM Usr666 said

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Why do I need a Wii 360... I like my controller.

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 10:41AM natels said

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Because it has better graphics and games.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2008 10:43AM TRTX said

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There have been people watching these videos noticing odd behavior (characters not moving when the controller is waving or characters moving when the controller isn't moving)

Also, a few people noted that the characters seem to only respond when the guy SAYS they are moving.

I have suspicions that his is one of those "guy waving toy while 2nd guy uses controller offscreen" mock-ups.

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 10:39AM The Albatross said

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"There are similarities in the name Darwin and the purported codename for Microsoft's motion controller, Newton"

That's the stupidest thing I've ever read on Joystiq.

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 11:05AM Duke said

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Yeah, the use of a W and an R.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2008 10:43AM zsavior said

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What always surprises me about these stories is not the controls, and it not that MS is trying a "Me Too" strategy by some peoples estimation. My amazement comes from fans and industry personal.

Didn't all the third parties say they hated waggle cause it was a fad? Didn't Gamers say waggle was horrible and they didn't want it in their games or on their system, then why so much agreement when MS does it to an xbox360 system which everybody can agree is pretty much very good already. Why focus on Nintendo's market rather than improving on what they already do great a more traditional game experience, only with maybe simpler controls. I think they would get more casuals with a more simplified control and controls in games like Gears of War and Halo which are flag Ships, rather than creating a waggle controller.

I mean, that is my opinion but I am just surprised how well received this is going.

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 10:44AM (Unverified) said

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the white one has an A button like 360's controller. the black one has the X like ps3's controllers. I know 360 has an X too, but it looks more like ps3's X.

What i don't understand is what the article is implying. The title says it's for the 360, but the first paragraph says it's multiplatform. and then the article concludes with it being for the 360 again.

I'm too lazy to click on the links, so someone explain this to me

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 11:10AM Duke said

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I think its just wild speculation to get people to chat about things. There doesn't seem to be anything drawing MS and this device together officially.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2008 10:44AM TRTX said

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@natels:

If Microsoft introduces a motion controller, just watch how quickly that "better games" opinion gets shot down.

First item of business for developers will be to take all of those mini-game compilations and hit the "PORT" button.

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 11:23AM natels said

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I don't know.. The PS3 has a motion controller (in a sense) and it is not utilized at all.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2008 11:50AM ProfKOS said

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Because it's in a traditional controller's shell. Did you see the bowling videos? The only good, comfortable use that the sixaxis controls have is tilt and yaw for flying, driving type games. Anything else, seems awkward to me.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2008 10:45AM natels said

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Well who knows... This could be nothing for all we know. I don't see the need for anything like this in the 360.

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 10:52AM Haon said

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I see your schwartz is as big as mine!

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 10:55AM killr0y said

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And the fanboy hate swells amongst the Wii & PS3 fanboys:

1. Bu bu it doesn't look comfortable to me!
2. Bu bu its too big and clunky!
3. OMG, Microsoft is ripping off the Wiimote!!!1!
4. Teh electronic dildo, MS is developing teh porno games.
5. Teh games will be all half-ass ports!1!!one

Listen kiddies, its one thing to be a fanboy and support your favorite console, but its a completely different thing to spout off BS like a total ignoramus... or is it?

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 11:09AM Duke said

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I know I am just one of the kiddies and all, but I stick to the view that its ugly and too large looking. Now, if you want to call me a PS3 or Wii fanboy for it, then let the laughs begin.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2008 11:16AM (Unverified) said

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Automatic FAIL on that one bub...ask all these arrogant sony fanboys around here I'm a proud Wii/360 fanboy and even I find this a huge abomination. I pray for all 360 owners across the globe that this is a complete FAKE.

Its ugly, its very weird looking, and its clearly MS trying to copy the Wiimote in order to try and move into that "causal gamer" market that Nintendo has hit a gold mine in.

Sony has tried to copy Nintendo and its failed miserable with the sixaxis shit. I'm more than willing to admit that MS is copying as well. But I'd hope at the very least that they'd IMPROVE on the Wiimote rather than pathetic sony which came up with some garbage controller that they put together in order to compete...
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Posted: Jul 11th 2008 12:42PM fidgetwidget said

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For everyone saying 'MS is just trying to copy the Wii'
Please realize that THIS isn't a Microsoft device.

For those saying 'its big and clunky looking'
The device is in a prototype phase, and is more than likely to change in some form. And until you get your hands on it, you don't know.
Similar things were said about the Wii remote when it was first shown.

For those saying 'it sucks, and I don't like it'
Then don't buy one.
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Posted: Jul 11th 2008 11:00AM (Unverified) said

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Not so gimmicky afterall !!
USE THE SCWARTZ !!

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 11:04AM puerrican85 said

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I HAAAVE THE POOOOWEEEEEEEER!!!

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 11:14AM (Unverified) said

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Darwin, Newton....

I've been calling this the "Miituu" controller. Why can't Microsoft just leave Nintendo alone and do their own thing. The 360 does certain things extremely well, like online play services. Concentrate on that.

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 11:17AM (Unverified) said

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Hehe, In the golf demo, I kept expecting the controller to split in half and go flying into the TV.

By the way, for those who only have dildo's on the mind, the Newton's shape is supposed to mimic a katana, not a penis. durr.

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 11:23AM badbob001 said

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Would be interesting to have a darth maul dual blade saber weapon and then change it to two saber mode by splitting the controller... or just press a button. :)

They will also need to consider putting wrist straps on both parts so we don't destroy our tv's or kill someone. And when a third-party introduces the rubber cushioning wraps like on the wii controller, we'll have a week of condom jokes.

I do like how they display the controller on the tv like how one would display a japanese sword.

The wii has one general controller. The ps3 has one general controller. I don't know if people are ready for a system with more than one general controller. A middle-ground is to just add motion to the current controller like on the ps3, but you will miss out the wii crowd and wii-type games. They should have a transforming controller (codename: origami) that will suit both the normal controller folks and the wii folks. But it will be ugly so it'll fail anyway.

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 11:26AM (Unverified) said

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Forget about how it physically looks, the way it's used in the games, specially the lego star wars games is extremely gimmicky.

Why do I need to wave my arms around to make obi wan move his lightsaber when I can just press a button? It's easier, takes less energy, does the same freakin thing, and I don't look like an idiot doing it.

Shit that's my point with 99% of these motion controlled games. It's just another way to do the same fucking thing as a button press or analog stick, but you get to look like an idiot on top of things.

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 11:44AM (Unverified) said

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motus games' hype for this thing is ridiculous:

http://blog.8bitdream.com/blog/?e=9

-"superfan" tactics.

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 12:03PM Jacksons said

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Waggle must die.

Posted: Aug 14th 2008 5:25PM (Unverified) said

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It would be so much easier to play a RTS game like Halo Wars with somthing that.

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 12:30PM (Unverified) said

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Awww I wanted it to be like the power glove.

Looks like those Mini Katana replicas you can buy for 20$

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 12:31PM JoshMilewski said

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It doesn't need a sensor bar because it doesn't have pointing abilities.

(Right?)

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 12:57PM SoulBlade said

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It's not a gimmick anymore if MS is doing it!

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 2:59PM Mic2000 said

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Black once looking freaking good!

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 3:20PM Gel214th said

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Hmm...I don't see enough buttons on it for it to be used in most games.

I see A button ,and two triggers (B and C buttons?), and a D - Pad. They would have needed to translate ALL the buttons, triggers including Bumper buttons and start/select for it to be truly useful on either the 360 or the PS3 for current games.

If they are waiting for developers to make *new* games to support this, then that ain't going to happen.

For the PC you can do anything if there is a good configuration utility (like Switchblade for the Xbox360 Controller, or Pinnacle Game software). Players will probably purchase it as an input device and download profiles for their favorite shooters or other gametypes (All they need to do is have a World of Warcraft plugin at launch and that should move some units,see Switchblade utility for the 360). But there's that lack of buttons thing again.

Truly, the only thing I found better than or as good as WASD and a mouse for FPS shooters, is the Wii Mote setup.Having to just point to shoot is great ^_^.

Maybe I missed something where the buttons are concerned?

Posted: Jul 11th 2008 5:17PM Dirame said

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All this sounds like echoes of the first time the Wii controller was revealed...i really have nothing to say until a consumer actually uses it and reviews it. It being without an IR sensor bar tells me that you may only use it in-game not for menu selection.

Posted: Jul 13th 2008 2:32AM ChaoticLimbs said

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If it doesn't have utility in FPS games, and doesn't do anything innovative, I will skip it. If it works like a Wiimote, I'd buy it, but only if Microsoft and developers were excited enough to develop for it. I buy hardware when it's needed to run software.

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