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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 11:36AM (Unverified) said

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Hmm... doesn't look that impressive.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 6:56PM (Unverified) said

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why?

cause it has blood coming out of charecter? cuase it has a story? cause it has a realistic backround? cause it has the best art concept in a fighting game? cause it has the best special effect sound? is that why doesnt' look interesting? if not then heck tell me why man???????????
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 5:37PM religiousjedi said

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And to think, all this could have been avoided if Lord Bowser hadn't said what he first said...

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Posted: Jul 13th 2008 11:31AM (Unverified) said

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I have to agree with TheShizy. For a fighting game, it seems so slow. Each punch or kick has a pause after it. Also, the animation seems unnatural. The characters are weaving so much. I would expect better.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 11:38AM (Unverified) said

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Every fighting game, from here on, needs to have the letters "AB" at the end of their title. So, for example, "Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe" would be "Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe AB".

AB = After Brawl

For there was a period before Brawl, and a period after. Brawl was not just a game, it was an event, a momentous event. I just don't see how any fighting game can match the amazing that is four player Brawl, let alone this.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 11:42AM cheezitman2001 said

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If by Brawl, you mean Melee, then I agree 100%.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 12:01PM puerrican85 said

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.... and then came along Soul Calibur 4....
The End...
(for Brawl)
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 12:03PM (Unverified) said

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Lol, Soul Caliber. Darth Vader is there to distract the audience from shallow the game has become.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 12:07PM (Unverified) said

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"how shallow"

It's been a long day.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 12:14PM (Unverified) said

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And all those nintendo characters are there to blind you guys from how shallow smash bros is as a fighter.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 12:41PM Sora said

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Wow, SOMEONE hasn't played Melee. Or 75% of fighting games released before Brawl. To me, Brawl is the worst Super Smash out of the three.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 12:48PM (Unverified) said

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Sora, that's nostalgia talking. As we get older are memories hazy and we tend to wrap them up in cute little bows. I suggest you play the 64 version then play some Brawl. The leap is staggering.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 12:52PM cheezitman2001 said

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Thank you. I'm sick of people acting like Brawl is the second coming of Christ, when it's just a giant step backwards from Melee in every possible direction.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 12:52PM Sora said

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Graphically, yes the leap is staggering...Gameplay wise, Brawl is simply more slow-paced than it's two predecessors. Melee > 64 > Brawl.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 12:54PM (Unverified) said

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Lord Bowser,

You know how I know that you are wrong? Fernando has even gotten tired of the game to the point in which he doesn't even mention it!!

And apparently, the same is happening to him and MK Wii
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 12:54PM (Unverified) said

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I never played Melee so I can't comment on that game; The Gamecube kinda sucked. But since I've got a couple Cube controllers I'll hunt down that game and see for myself.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 12:57PM Sora said

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You haven't played Melee? If you think BRAWL is this amazing...Go get a used copy of Melee NOW.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 12:58PM (Unverified) said

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Noshino,

I'll believe it when I see it from Nando's mouth. Not that would change my opionon (I think Kart sucks anyway) but I'm just saying.

The reason he probably never mentions those two games is probably because he's satisfied with what he's got. Talking about the same thing over and over will become redundant, and I don't believe Nando is a practitioner in redundancy.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 12:58PM (Unverified) said

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"I never played Melee"

I see no reason for this discussion to go on then.

Also, you didn't like the gamecube? Wow bowser...even I kinda liked the gamecube.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 1:03PM (Unverified) said

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This is so base.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 1:04PM (Unverified) said

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Tmac,

What good games did the Cube have? The first year of the Wii was agonisingly slow so I sought out some Cube titles to tide me over: RE4, Killer7, MGS, Billy Hatcher. That's it. In a whole year of searching those were the only games that interested me. Really, the Cube library is rather weak.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 1:07PM (Unverified) said

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Dude, as someone who also loves Brawl, i feel I have to chime in, but not for your benefit. Brawl is awesome with tons of characters and of coure, the unique fighting style that Smash fans love.

However, Brawl is and will always be, a party fighter. It's not exactly a fighter, it belongs in a different category altogether. When i think fighter i think Tekken, Soul Caliber, Virtua fighter, etc. Brawl never really comes to mind, and I love brawl.

Brawl is a fantastic game, but its a different game entirely.
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Posted: Jul 13th 2008 10:58PM (Unverified) said

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Good games on the Cube?

Super mario sunshine?
LOZ Wind Waker?
SSB Melee?
Soul Caliber II?
METROID PRIME?!?

The cube had games bro. Maybe not enough to combat the Ps2s gigantic library, but it had games.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 1:23PM (Unverified) said

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Figured I'd follow up on your shallow and uneducated comments about my opinion on Jack Thompson.

Yep. I am celebrating the 'stripping' of another man's vocation and I feel no remorse or sympathy for him.

If you've read through the 169 page report by Judge Tunis you'll see the repeated and aggravated attempts by this man to use his vocation as a tool to inflict humiliation and distress on others because they disagreed with him and/or stood opposed to his causes. The Judge describes it as a (paraphrasing) as a pattern of willful maliciousness and he shows no acknowledgement of any wrongdoing or remorse.

He isn't having his vocation 'stripped' from him, he violated the ethics of his profession over and over in a way that is almost maniacle. It is a triumph of the legal system that a man is held accountable for such blatant abuse of his profession, and that is what I am celebrating.

While you file me next to 'intellectual poverty' (of course since I am clearly not articulate or educated) I'll file you with 'fraud', 'shallow self important blowhard who craves attention', and 'assh*le'.

Have a great day, moron.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 1:29PM Spunky Monkey 190906 said

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*Looks at scores for smash bros, realises that until brawl came along, Nintendo had little or no worthy fighting games, also sees that VF, SC, DOA, MK, SF and Tekken had all scored higher then original smash bro games, then realises that smash bros cannot be taken seriously with pickachu as a character* ¬_¬
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 1:34PM (Unverified) said

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Eric, this is the wrong place to be sending me love letters. We're here quietly discussing Mortal Kombat and Brawl then you bustle into this thread, making a hellish racket, with your own agenda. Your irrelevant commentary and personal attacks would make you a leading candidate for the Fox News network. Wow, seriously, how base is it of you to reduce yourself to calling me a blowhard? Shallow? Fraud? Where is all this coming from, Eric. I thought we were friends, or is your weak mind starting to fail you.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 1:49PM (Unverified) said

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I'm not gonna get into an argument about how deep Brawl is (because it's not that deep) but saying it is a step back from Melee is, quite frankly, straight up stupid. Last I checked, a balanced roster (with the exception of Solid Snake), one of the coolest soundtracks in gaming, many more features/stages/characters/reasons to play, etc. give it the edge over Melee. And yeah, I'm gonna hear these 'gameplay is slower' complaints... shits barely slower, and when you're playing with others, its just as hectic as Melee was.

In comparison to Brawl, Melee has absolutely nothing going for it. In the animation department, nothing. In the balance department, nothing. In the way the game controls and feels, nothing. Melee is in no way a better beat 'em up than Brawl.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 4:24PM (Unverified) said

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Lord Bowser, do the internet a favor and just unplug your modem, kthx
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 4:49PM Gun Barrier said

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you tell em FatAss! I really hate how people say brawl is worse than melee!
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 5:58PM (Unverified) said

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I'm downvoting you because you think SSBB is a fighting game...
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 7:17PM (Unverified) said

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"I'm downvoting you because you think SSBB is a fighting game..."

Hope you're not talkin' bout me, I clearly said Brawl was a beat 'em up.

Brawl > Melee (just have to reiterate)
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 7:49PM (Unverified) said

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Look, Brawl is just not fun if you don't want to spend the time learning the moves. And maybe it's still not fun once you've learned the moves. But I played the game with four friends and none of us knew what the hell was going on (and we played for four hours). The characters were too small to see what was going on and most of the moves were kind of BS.

But I've definitely noticed that some loyalists (I'm not using the word "fanboy" any more) still just love the game. That's great and I'm fine with people wasting their own time. But this game (remember what the original post was about?) actually looks kind of fun. Aside from the ridiculous premise.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 9:40PM (Unverified) said

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Dude, a six year old could learn all of the moves Brawl has to offer in an hour flat. It's not a deep game, but it's fucking fun as a party game. Now, I dunno how it makes sense that you're calling the few million who've bought the game 'loyalists' (I'd call the nuts who still claim Melee is superior that), but perhaps you didn't have fun with it because you were approaching it as a fighting game rather than a fun party game or aren't into Nintendo that much (I mean, thats a prerequisite - the game is chocked full of more fan service than any other game I've ever seen or played).
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 10:04PM Mr Khan said

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For once i agree with Lord Bowser

Other fighting games seem so short and pointless after the hours sunk into Smash Bros
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Posted: Jul 13th 2008 4:25PM Grey Acumen said

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Okay, honestly, this is a discussion on Mortal Kombat, not Brawl, so people really need to rope their comments back towards the actual article at hand. There are forums and places that are for discussing brawl, this just isn't it.

I will however, point out that Brawl IS a fighting game, and it IS one of the best out there, period. People call it simple, and it is simple, to get the basics down. Mastering it is an entirely different issue altogether. Try playing Go sometime. It's really easy to play, yet despite this you can have incredible depths of strategy. Same thing goes for Brawl, provided you understand the strategies that actually take place in a real fight, and not just preset combos and healthmeters.
Melee does come across fast paced compared to Brawl, but Brawl is still better due to balance. Melee was always Marth, Shiek, Fox and that was just about it. With Brawl, I've never seen a character that gives anyone a definitive advantage over every other character, and even those character vs character advantages can be negated be players with enough skill and strategy.

As for Mortal Kombat vs DC, I agree with the first post in the comments. It just doesn't impress me on any level. I was never a huge fan of Mortal Kombat to begin with, but this just sorta rips out those few things that at least made it playable. The attacks look choppy, the DC character models look caricaturized and don't feel like they fit in with any of hte Mortal Kombat characters at all. I can't help but ask how superman is getting hurt, and why Flash is moving so slow. On top of that, the characters are all in this detailed 3d modeling, but the blood is in these cloudy poofs? honestly, I think I like how the SNES version looked better.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 11:41AM ppryan said

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I hate to say it, but that looks terrible.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 11:55AM (Unverified) said

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You expected too much out of a Midway fighter.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 11:58AM (Unverified) said

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There was a time where Midway fighting games represented excellence and all that was good about gaming.
Those days are in the past.

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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 1:57PM (Unverified) said

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Errr, When? Fatalities were neat, but the game play in MK games has never been top notch.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 7:41PM (Unverified) said

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From MK1 to MK Trilogy and if you say otherwise you are gay.

I don't make the rules.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 11:13PM LaughingTarget said

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When you take out the gimmick that is the blood and fatality, the Mortal Kombat games were rather pathetic. Street Fighter was where it was at in those days.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 11:42AM (Unverified) said

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Old gen game mechanics on current gen systems... that's the problem I'm seeing here.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 12:00PM puerrican85 said

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Feels like the old 2-D Mortal Kombats with the movements and all. Doesnt look fluid at all..
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 11:44AM juju187 said

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It's a renter at best
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 8:01PM (Unverified) said

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I totally agree. But I'd also note that most games are renters. Pick one up on Friday from Blockbuster, play it all weekend then return it on Monday. You save more than $50. It's awesome, especially for those of us who don't like playing online.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 11:46AM (Unverified) said

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Mortal Kombat games have never looked impressive. Why would this one be any different? They've been halfway decent over the last few years, but it's not like they've ever been great (barring the first two, for their time).

I'm sure this will be just another dial-a-combo fighting game. If this does anything new I will be very surprised.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 12:51PM juju187 said

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trilogy was pretty damn good. i think it was there last good one
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 11:47AM (Unverified) said

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The DC Booth at the Comic-Con may have this game on demo. So I may try it out.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 11:54AM jah75157 said

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before i even read the post i watched the trailer and all i could think was why is superman fighting he could just sit there and let them beat their hands bloody then rip their heads off with an uppercut.
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Posted: Jul 12th 2008 12:52PM juju187 said

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it's magic.
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