Responding to a question at Nintendo's 2008 E3 developer roundtable about whether or not a new Pikmin is in the works, Miyamoto says he'll announce a new sequel when he's ready. Apparently he's ready now. "We're making Pikmin," confirms his translator. (Is this the megaton you have been waiting for, dear Fernando?)
Naw, I got turned off of the original Pikmin when partway through the original I realized I was falling behind and wouldn't be able to collect all the parts I needed to. Haven't picked it up since.
Yeah, same thing happened to me when it first came out... I looked at my save yesterday and I was on day 23 with only 15 parts, ugh. Playing it again, but using a walkthrough and replaying each day until I can get it within the time frame to get all 30 parts in 15 days. Since I just picked it up again, I had a little difficulty keeping up at first on the harder days, but it's more fun than I remember it being. Can't wait to go through Pikmin 2 after this, as I've never played it before.
I managed to beat the first one several days under the time limit. :S
The second one is more fleshed out, and there's no day limit (just time limit due to daylight). It's a helluva lot better than the first one (which I think suffered from launch game syndrome). If you liked the first one aside from the 30 day limit, you should definitely check out Pikmin 2.
When i was younger and less patient about strategy games, the 30-day thing clean scared me off of Pikmin, but i've found a passion for strategy games in the 7 years since
Never really understood that term, but yes, I'm quite happy to hear a new Pikmin game is being made. I love that series and it remains one of my favourites from the last generation.
Hopefuly it has good use of the Remote however, not just standard controls. Pointer should be good for something.
Now we just need a sequel to that Pinball RTS Nintendo had.
I believe "megaton", in reference to video games, refers to a press conference years ago... I believe Nintendo made the statement that they had a megaton of an announcement to make... Some people assumed it be huge things, like buying out Sega and Capcom (recall the Capcom 5?). But... it wasn't... It was just some new games, I think.
So, the term is passed around as a joke for conferences.
Oh, and Odama? That was by Yoot Saito's team, who's also responsible for Seaman (1 and 2), Sim Tower (and its many incarnations: Yoot Tower, The Tower SP, The Tower DS).
As far as I remember, it was actually some magazine that started the whole Megaton thing... and it was a megaton, but only to them, because it was the announcement of some game involving the magazine in question in some way. Maybe the internets can be of more help.
It was like a million tiny daggers in my heart every time Red died. It was a painful experience. I actually must go back and try to complete that game.
It's like if Lemmings and Supreme Commander, in an act of extreme desperation, decided they need to explore their erotic interests in each other. In a moment of passion and bliss, they conceived Pikmin. On the flight home, the stork taught it how to control like a dream, threw in a slew of cute characters, and added a charming story. A few years later they had a baby brother. Everyone loved it because it was the youngest, and didn't have that annoying time limit. Mommy and Daddy really spoiled that one!
You may be more familiar with it's hard-boiled cousin, Battalion Wars, in which Lemmings and Supreme Commander had a little ménage à trois with Cannon Fodder.
Except not. A Mario and Zelda game are given, because hey, Nintendo. Pikmin, however, never sold terribly well and so a sequel was never guaranteed. For people who enjoyed the game, this is very good news.
This is basically like when they said the Mario and Zelda teams are hard at work. It's not coming out soon like Animal Crossing. Maybe this is just damage control after they over heard all the up roar. He could have switched Pikmin with Mario, or Zelda, and it would have been the same thing. I did enjoy pikmin a lot, and I'm still trying to track down a copy of Pikmin two, so news of Pikmin 3 is great, but we knew it had to come.
Not a megaton but still awesome i love pikmin.This e3 has been really megaton less,the only one really was final fantasy xiii coming to xbox360.Wow has e3 really changed.I can't really complain i guess.We are still getting great games on all platforms,this his to be one if not the best videogame generation.
So Nintendo announces another non casual game, and everyone bitches? Somehow, I doubt no matter how many "hardcore" games they would have shown that people would be happy with them.
Also tmacairjordan87, your comments are far worse than anyone's on this site. Would you kindly do us a favor and shut up for once? I have never seen you said a good thing about Nintendo. I have praised Sony for when they do good things.
I dunno you're making a pretty strong case against yourself, you should stop while you're ahead. You're the one who said Sony's conference was just as bad as nintendo's, which not even the most staunch nintendo supporters were crazy enough to say so don't try to act like you're fair and balanced mr fox news
That's your sony selective vision that's giving you that info.
The truth is that what I said was said by others as well. I wasn't the only person who happened to feel that Nintendo and sony were on the same level of shittiness that day.
But lets just pretend that I was the only one out of the million of people who felt that way. Does that make my opinion any less valuable than yours? Just because you think sony was above Nintendo at E3 doesn't mean you're right.
Again your sony arrogance is hilarious. Enjoy 3rd place this generation.
Sorry but if there's any system that has no killer app this generation it's definitely sony.
MGS4 is the only game that comes close to being a huge hit for the system and I think most people agree it's a niche type of game. Albeit a decent selling niche game.
I would go and list the vast amount of games I own for both my 360 and Wii but that's unnecessary really since you're a sony fanboy and would just ignore it.
Plus it would just make this a wall of words which I hate...
That's a lot of 360 games for a "sony fanboy" to play and that's not even displaying anywhere near the number of games I've played. The math is all there.
Please, stop thinking that there are a lot of good games on the PS3, specially exclusive games. MGS4 is the only game that is a AAA game on the PS3.
And what so good about Sony this E3? What did they show? Killzone 2, announced since 2005, and will be released in 2009, thats 4 years since the annoucement. LBP... already announced. Resistance 2? Already announced.
CGI teaser of God of War... and like you said about Pikmin, a game that we already knew was coming? Or a CGI trailer of MAG?
And just because Nintendo didn't announced games this E3, it doesnt mean that game development stoped.
There are still a lot of games coming, both third and first party.
I really don't see how anyone can call Tmac a Sony fanboy. It is just simply not true. He does not like Nintendo but he has his reasons which he lays out pretty good actually. Now, the Premature Asshat just rails on Sony for no real reason. Thats the truth about it.
As much as Fernando and I disagree and poke at each other a little bit we are actually very civil towards each other and get along very good. He is actually not a bad guy at all in all honesty.
@Tmac
I prefer to call it Faux News ... Yeah I coined that!
Oh fucking god, I can't believe you just said Tmac has selective hearing when you just pulled this shit.
Here's the thing. I'm the closest thing to a rational Nintendo fanboy this site has (well, I was, before yesterday) and even I admitted to Nintendo's conference being an absolute crock of shit. Hell, Fernando even did - I was in a chat room with him the whole damn time.
Sony announced details. Sony showed games. Sony appealed to the gamer, even though their presentation was fucking boring.
Nintendo? What did they do? They smashed my hopes for the system all over the ground. The Wii had so much potential, but at this point, it doesn't have the games to back it. You could bring up a list (fuck, I own 28 games for my Wii), but the fact of the matter is that the Wii doesn't have near as much to offer to the GAMER as the other two systems on the market. Before yesterday, that could be disputed. Today, it's widely accepted as fact, and I don't see how it could possibly be disputed by anyone but those with a rose tinted facemask on.
My point is... there are good games for each system jordan. At least I have played the PS3, at least 4 days a week (my cousin has a PS3 and he lives a few block from here).
You need to give the Wii a chance and try some games. Yeah, there is a lot of shovelware games, but you dont need to play those games, just like any good gamer wont play those games.
Wow...just wow. You are by far the dumbest person I've seen on this site and that's including curmeo, lord bowser, and name123. If you're pretending then bravo you deserve an oscar, but I don't think you are. Why am I wasting my time on someone this stupid?
If anything the way you act is reinforcing the stereotype that all 360 owners are immature pre-pubescent 12 year old foul mouths. I think my brain's going to explode if I ever bother to waste my time comprehending stupidity of this magnitude, so for my sake I won't bother anymore.
Fernando, I'm looking forward to PLENTY of exclusives for my PS3.
There's Killzone 2, Resistance 2 (though that looked fuckin' bland and boring), Disgaea 3, FFV13, GW3, Yakuza 3, InFamous, and Wipeout HD, among others.
There are some Wii exclusives I'm looking forward to also, but not as many come to mind.
That wasn't towards you fernando you're actually fun sometimes :P. I'll drop a little megaton right here since I'm in a good mood...I will give the wii a try but I'm going to wait until my friend picks one up in a couple weeks. I hated the first xbox but the I love my 360 so I at least know my opinions can be changed.
Ok Fernando right as I pay you a compliment you go and do that ... sigh ...
Can we not start a list war tonight, please?
I have all of the consoles and I think the PS3 has easily the best software lineup. I think that Nintendo has the worst lineup of all of them simply because the system is not powerful enough to run the multiplatform titles like the PS3 & 360.
I have all of the big Nintendo made Wii games and honestly for the most part they are pretty over rated ... You see we all have our opinions ...
My Favorite PS3 Exclusives
Warhawk GT:Prologue MGS 4 Uncharted Heavenly Sword Ratchet And Clank Future Resistance Folklore Motorstorm MLB 08 the Show Hot Shots Golf Out Of Bounds
I think all of these games offer great and unique experiences and they are all exclusive to the PS3. Not to mention all of the multiplatform goodness and PSN titles.
Can we all just agree to disagree?
Remember the poll that showed Sony had the highest overall ratings in terms of all games divided by total scores? The Wii had by far the worst due to all the junk games released. In all honesty the only great games are from Nintendo. I don't want to sound like I hate Mk Wii, SSBB, MPrime & Twilight Princess but they are not my favorite games.
And I'm not civil? Tell the truth for once in your life. I only get dirty when you sony fanboys start talking shit and insulting people.
Really I try to be nice to those who are nice in return. For example Fenix is nice. While I know he has a ps3 I respect him cuz he doesn't take this shit as seriously as you and tmac do. Plus he has never insulted me for being a fan of my 360. Same goes for Fernando and other users on this blog.
But every time you respond to me you insult me. So why would I be suck up to you or even attempt to be "civil" when you're clearly not doing the same?
Just my thoughts on the matter...anyways I'm going to bed.
Reader Comments (Page 1 of 3)
Cesaria (cesariatic.wordpress.com) @ Jul 16th 2008 10:49PM
Can't wait. I LOVE the first two. A DS one would be great, too!
ComradeTrotskii @ Jul 16th 2008 10:49PM
Not The Megaton, like Animal Crossing it was assumed and inevitable but it is good news all the same.
tmacairjordan87 @ Jul 16th 2008 10:50PM
Not a megaton as I would think everyone already knew they were making it.
mr nimblewick @ Jul 16th 2008 10:50PM
Naw, I got turned off of the original Pikmin when partway through the original I realized I was falling behind and wouldn't be able to collect all the parts I needed to. Haven't picked it up since.
mrfong @ Jul 16th 2008 10:53PM
Same exact thing happened to me. I might just go back and finish it for the hell of it tonight.
Ben @ Jul 16th 2008 11:34PM
Yeah, same thing happened to me when it first came out... I looked at my save yesterday and I was on day 23 with only 15 parts, ugh. Playing it again, but using a walkthrough and replaying each day until I can get it within the time frame to get all 30 parts in 15 days. Since I just picked it up again, I had a little difficulty keeping up at first on the harder days, but it's more fun than I remember it being. Can't wait to go through Pikmin 2 after this, as I've never played it before.
BPM [MSN: BPMdotEXE @ hotmail.com] @ Jul 17th 2008 1:35AM
I managed to beat the first one several days under the time limit. :S
The second one is more fleshed out, and there's no day limit (just time limit due to daylight). It's a helluva lot better than the first one (which I think suffered from launch game syndrome). If you liked the first one aside from the 30 day limit, you should definitely check out Pikmin 2.
Mr Khan @ Jul 17th 2008 12:04PM
When i was younger and less patient about strategy games, the 30-day thing clean scared me off of Pikmin, but i've found a passion for strategy games in the 7 years since
I'd definitely be after this
Kenofthedead @ Jul 16th 2008 10:50PM
Never really understood that term, but yes, I'm quite happy to hear a new Pikmin game is being made.
I love that series and it remains one of my favourites from the last generation.
Hopefuly it has good use of the Remote however, not just standard controls. Pointer should be good for something.
Now we just need a sequel to that Pinball RTS Nintendo had.
BPM [MSN: BPMdotEXE @ hotmail.com] @ Jul 17th 2008 1:41AM
I believe "megaton", in reference to video games, refers to a press conference years ago... I believe Nintendo made the statement that they had a megaton of an announcement to make...
Some people assumed it be huge things, like buying out Sega and Capcom (recall the Capcom 5?).
But... it wasn't... It was just some new games, I think.
So, the term is passed around as a joke for conferences.
I think the "megaton" this year was FF13 360.
BPM [MSN: BPMdotEXE @ hotmail.com] @ Jul 17th 2008 1:46AM
Oh, and Odama? That was by Yoot Saito's team, who's also responsible for Seaman (1 and 2), Sim Tower (and its many incarnations: Yoot Tower, The Tower SP, The Tower DS).
bm @ Jul 17th 2008 7:21AM
As far as I remember, it was actually some magazine that started the whole Megaton thing... and it was a megaton, but only to them, because it was the announcement of some game involving the magazine in question in some way. Maybe the internets can be of more help.
Cephas @ Jul 16th 2008 10:50PM
Now Nintendo will be forced to do a another lackluster "reveal" of Pikmin 3, even though we already know about it.
mr mobius @ Jul 17th 2008 12:22PM
It was like a million tiny daggers in my heart every time Red died. It was a painful experience. I actually must go back and try to complete that game.
gir @ Jul 16th 2008 10:52PM
I never played Pikmin. Why is it so good?
Jake11 @ Jul 16th 2008 10:55PM
I don't know, it just is. It's pure fun
Xoviet chiK @ Jul 16th 2008 11:25PM
It's like if Lemmings and Supreme Commander, in an act of extreme desperation, decided they need to explore their erotic interests in each other. In a moment of passion and bliss, they conceived Pikmin. On the flight home, the stork taught it how to control like a dream, threw in a slew of cute characters, and added a charming story. A few years later they had a baby brother. Everyone loved it because it was the youngest, and didn't have that annoying time limit. Mommy and Daddy really spoiled that one!
You may be more familiar with it's hard-boiled cousin, Battalion Wars, in which Lemmings and Supreme Commander had a little ménage à trois with Cannon Fodder.
I'm really sorry, I get carried away sometimes...
gir @ Jul 16th 2008 11:34PM
*in gir's voice* "I understaaand"
fred @ Jul 17th 2008 12:53AM
@xoviet
THE IMAGES
IN MY HEAD
WONT GO AWAY
BPM [MSN: BPMdotEXE @ hotmail.com] @ Jul 17th 2008 1:48AM
Xoviet... That was beautiful.
Abscissa @ Jul 17th 2008 2:39AM
It's the only RTS that isn't military-themed. And it's awesome. Soo... yea. :)
xGeneral DEATHx @ Jul 17th 2008 7:51AM
@ Xoviet:
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!?!?!
*Attempts to claw out eyes*
NxC @ Jul 16th 2008 10:53PM
A megaton? Not at all. This only looks good because the core gamers have seen nothing. A candle in the dark is just that much brighter.
This is practically identical to what we heard about Mario and Zelda: "We're working on it, [but have nothing to show]".
Tonyplusplus @ Jul 17th 2008 12:58AM
Nick!!!!
Geist @ Jul 17th 2008 2:01AM
Except not. A Mario and Zelda game are given, because hey, Nintendo. Pikmin, however, never sold terribly well and so a sequel was never guaranteed. For people who enjoyed the game, this is very good news.
crazyyellowguy @ Jul 16th 2008 10:53PM
I don't know about megaton, but biggernews that mario and zelda in my opinion.
You always know that zelda and mario is in the works, but you are never too sure with games like pikmin.
Baligouxji @ Jul 16th 2008 10:54PM
This is basically like when they said the Mario and Zelda teams are hard at work. It's not coming out soon like Animal Crossing. Maybe this is just damage control after they over heard all the up roar. He could have switched Pikmin with Mario, or Zelda, and it would have been the same thing. I did enjoy pikmin a lot, and I'm still trying to track down a copy of Pikmin two, so news of Pikmin 3 is great, but we knew it had to come.
KVN @ Jul 16th 2008 10:57PM
Not a megaton but still awesome i love pikmin.This e3 has been really megaton less,the only one really was final fantasy xiii coming to xbox360.Wow has e3 really changed.I can't really complain i guess.We are still getting great games on all platforms,this his to be one if not the best videogame generation.
Fernando Rocker @ Jul 16th 2008 11:19PM
You mean this Megaton?
http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p236/fernando_rocker/?action=view¤t=AtomicBomb.jpg
4MyFriends @ Jul 16th 2008 10:57PM
So Nintendo announces another non casual game, and everyone bitches? Somehow, I doubt no matter how many "hardcore" games they would have shown that people would be happy with them.
KVN @ Jul 16th 2008 11:03PM
True people would complain about then rehashing all their characters or something.
4MyFriends @ Jul 16th 2008 11:06PM
Not like other companies do the same thing.
tmacairjordan87 @ Jul 16th 2008 11:20PM
Yeah but other companies actually put out new stuff for the real gamer to go along with the sequels.
Really you shouldn't even bother trying to compare the situations because no one is going to be fooled.
4MyFriends @ Jul 16th 2008 11:23PM
Also tmacairjordan87, your comments are far worse than anyone's on this site. Would you kindly do us a favor and shut up for once? I have never seen you said a good thing about Nintendo. I have praised Sony for when they do good things.
ThePerfectCompanion @ Jul 16th 2008 11:38PM
I agree with 4MyFriends
There's no way in hell Nintendo could please tmac...he's just a bitter sony fanboy.
tmacairjordan87 @ Jul 16th 2008 11:40PM
I dunno you're making a pretty strong case against yourself, you should stop while you're ahead. You're the one who said Sony's conference was just as bad as nintendo's, which not even the most staunch nintendo supporters were crazy enough to say so don't try to act like you're fair and balanced mr fox news
ThePerfectCompanion @ Jul 16th 2008 11:56PM
Oh rly tmac? You're 100% sure about that?
That's your sony selective vision that's giving you that info.
The truth is that what I said was said by others as well. I wasn't the only person who happened to feel that Nintendo and sony were on the same level of shittiness that day.
But lets just pretend that I was the only one out of the million of people who felt that way. Does that make my opinion any less valuable than yours? Just because you think sony was above Nintendo at E3 doesn't mean you're right.
Again your sony arrogance is hilarious. Enjoy 3rd place this generation.
tmacairjordan87 @ Jul 16th 2008 11:57PM
I will enjoy a meaningless 3rd place
In the meantime you enjoy having no games to play.
ThePerfectCompanion @ Jul 17th 2008 12:05AM
LMAO!
Owning both a Wii and a 360 = No games to play?
You really must on that sony koolaid.
Sorry but if there's any system that has no killer app this generation it's definitely sony.
MGS4 is the only game that comes close to being a huge hit for the system and I think most people agree it's a niche type of game. Albeit a decent selling niche game.
I would go and list the vast amount of games I own for both my 360 and Wii but that's unnecessary really since you're a sony fanboy and would just ignore it.
Plus it would just make this a wall of words which I hate...
tmacairjordan87 @ Jul 17th 2008 12:07AM
Also
http://my360stats.com/gs/lmacairjordan87/
That's a lot of 360 games for a "sony fanboy" to play and that's not even displaying anywhere near the number of games I've played. The math is all there.
ThePerfectCompanion @ Jul 17th 2008 12:11AM
Like I'm gonna click on that virus link tmac...
And even if you have a 360 you really don't deserve it. Just trade it in since the ps3 is obviously more suited to your tastes and attitude.
Fernando Rocker @ Jul 17th 2008 12:15AM
jordan
Please, stop thinking that there are a lot of good games on the PS3, specially exclusive games. MGS4 is the only game that is a AAA game on the PS3.
And what so good about Sony this E3? What did they show? Killzone 2, announced since 2005, and will be released in 2009, thats 4 years since the annoucement. LBP... already announced. Resistance 2? Already announced.
CGI teaser of God of War... and like you said about Pikmin, a game that we already knew was coming? Or a CGI trailer of MAG?
And just because Nintendo didn't announced games this E3, it doesnt mean that game development stoped.
There are still a lot of games coming, both third and first party.
John McPoop (PSN:johnnynumber5) @ Jul 17th 2008 12:15AM
I really don't see how anyone can call Tmac a Sony fanboy. It is just simply not true. He does not like Nintendo but he has his reasons which he lays out pretty good actually. Now, the Premature Asshat just rails on Sony for no real reason. Thats the truth about it.
As much as Fernando and I disagree and poke at each other a little bit we are actually very civil towards each other and get along very good. He is actually not a bad guy at all in all honesty.
@Tmac
I prefer to call it Faux News ... Yeah I coined that!
The Fatass of Kickassness @ Jul 17th 2008 12:17AM
"Like I'm gonna click on that virus link tmac..."
Oh fucking god, I can't believe you just said Tmac has selective hearing when you just pulled this shit.
Here's the thing. I'm the closest thing to a rational Nintendo fanboy this site has (well, I was, before yesterday) and even I admitted to Nintendo's conference being an absolute crock of shit. Hell, Fernando even did - I was in a chat room with him the whole damn time.
Sony announced details. Sony showed games. Sony appealed to the gamer, even though their presentation was fucking boring.
Nintendo? What did they do? They smashed my hopes for the system all over the ground. The Wii had so much potential, but at this point, it doesn't have the games to back it. You could bring up a list (fuck, I own 28 games for my Wii), but the fact of the matter is that the Wii doesn't have near as much to offer to the GAMER as the other two systems on the market. Before yesterday, that could be disputed. Today, it's widely accepted as fact, and I don't see how it could possibly be disputed by anyone but those with a rose tinted facemask on.
Fernando Rocker @ Jul 17th 2008 12:20AM
My point is... there are good games for each system jordan. At least I have played the PS3, at least 4 days a week (my cousin has a PS3 and he lives a few block from here).
You need to give the Wii a chance and try some games. Yeah, there is a lot of shovelware games, but you dont need to play those games, just like any good gamer wont play those games.
tmacairjordan87 @ Jul 17th 2008 12:20AM
Wow...just wow. You are by far the dumbest person I've seen on this site and that's including curmeo, lord bowser, and name123. If you're pretending then bravo you deserve an oscar, but I don't think you are. Why am I wasting my time on someone this stupid?
If anything the way you act is reinforcing the stereotype that all 360 owners are immature pre-pubescent 12 year old foul mouths. I think my brain's going to explode if I ever bother to waste my time comprehending stupidity of this magnitude, so for my sake I won't bother anymore.
The Fatass of Kickassness @ Jul 17th 2008 12:22AM
Fernando, I'm looking forward to PLENTY of exclusives for my PS3.
There's Killzone 2, Resistance 2 (though that looked fuckin' bland and boring), Disgaea 3, FFV13, GW3, Yakuza 3, InFamous, and Wipeout HD, among others.
There are some Wii exclusives I'm looking forward to also, but not as many come to mind.
tmacairjordan87 @ Jul 17th 2008 12:24AM
That wasn't towards you fernando you're actually fun sometimes :P. I'll drop a little megaton right here since I'm in a good mood...I will give the wii a try but I'm going to wait until my friend picks one up in a couple weeks. I hated the first xbox but the I love my 360 so I at least know my opinions can be changed.
John McPoop (PSN:johnnynumber5) @ Jul 17th 2008 12:25AM
Ok Fernando right as I pay you a compliment you go and do that ... sigh ...
Can we not start a list war tonight, please?
I have all of the consoles and I think the PS3 has easily the best software lineup. I think that Nintendo has the worst lineup of all of them simply because the system is not powerful enough to run the multiplatform titles like the PS3 & 360.
I have all of the big Nintendo made Wii games and honestly for the most part they are pretty over rated ... You see we all have our opinions ...
My Favorite PS3 Exclusives
Warhawk
GT:Prologue
MGS 4
Uncharted
Heavenly Sword
Ratchet And Clank Future
Resistance
Folklore
Motorstorm
MLB 08 the Show
Hot Shots Golf Out Of Bounds
I think all of these games offer great and unique experiences and they are all exclusive to the PS3. Not to mention all of the multiplatform goodness and PSN titles.
Can we all just agree to disagree?
Remember the poll that showed Sony had the highest overall ratings in terms of all games divided by total scores? The Wii had by far the worst due to all the junk games released. In all honesty the only great games are from Nintendo. I don't want to sound like I hate Mk Wii, SSBB, MPrime & Twilight Princess but they are not my favorite games.
ThePerfectCompanion @ Jul 17th 2008 12:26AM
@ John
And I'm not civil? Tell the truth for once in your life. I only get dirty when you sony fanboys start talking shit and insulting people.
Really I try to be nice to those who are nice in return. For example Fenix is nice. While I know he has a ps3 I respect him cuz he doesn't take this shit as seriously as you and tmac do. Plus he has never insulted me for being a fan of my 360. Same goes for Fernando and other users on this blog.
But every time you respond to me you insult me. So why would I be suck up to you or even attempt to be "civil" when you're clearly not doing the same?
Just my thoughts on the matter...anyways I'm going to bed.
Goodnite folks...