You mean like these two?

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/Sora267/joystiq-playstation-achieve.gif

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y81/Sora267/joystiq-playstation-achivem.gif

I take full credit for each.

heh, nice!

Its 6 min and 1000 points total for 360 games...

Every game should require a massive damage achievement and a crab trophy. This is what Sony needs to win the console wars.

It would be Microsoft's weak spot'

Achievement unlocked: found the weakspot
100000000000000000000000000000g damage

Not really. After my 5th console failure (sans accurate acronym) I stopped buying any multiplatform exclusives for the 360. I will probably get Madden for the 360 but thats only if the PS3 version suffers from the same frame rate issues as before. I suspect I am more the exception than the rule in terms of my bad luck but the only 360 titles I buy are exclusives.

I have just grown to loathe the console. In the majority of cases the differences in the versions are very insignificant.

spoken like a true Fanboy

John, you're an asshole, nobody cares about your console failures.

Funny you were claiming 9 about 4 months ago.

You are a hater, we get it.

LOL... you guys are tools. I'd probably be bitter too if I lost that many consoles. Fortunately, my original system didn't RRoD until after I sold it and bought an Elite.

Its a different number every time he friggin posts, we get it McPoop.

Yes, yes Mcpoop....you've gone through 465,899,932 xbox360's, they burned your house down, made advances towards your wife and molested you as a child in another life.

Did I forget anything?

If I had a nickel for everytime I heard the tripe Mcpoop says about giving up on the console on the internet I'd be a millionaire. I have sent my console in twice. One week of no 360 gaming didn't make me want to hurl it in the trash and scream obscenities at it.

I'd hate to see when someone close in your life drops the ball every once in a while. "Hey Richie you showed up late so we can go check out The Dark Knight, later brah I don't know you!"

OK, McPoop may complain about the 360 quite often, but you guys act like dying consoles isn't a good reason to choose to buy the same games for a different console. I mean, WOW, that's a very legit reason and to say otherwise is, quite frankly, stupid. And it's not like he just dropped this comment out of the blue, he was responding to a comment that was very trollish in nature to begin with.

Go look up my posting history. I have always said I had 5 console failures because I have. 3 of them were natural RRODs and two of them I had to force a RROD with a towel because of the disc read error.

I have never said anything other than I have had 5 console failures.

I do not even count the last time they sent it back and the console had a different regions DVD drive thus not allowing me access to my American games and movies. That would be 6 but like I said I DON'T EVEN COUNT THAT ONE.

I have always been consistent in what I have said in regards to the 360. The truth of the matter is I have had extremely bad luck with the console. As I even said in first post in this reply chain I am more the exception than the rule. If you guys want to take it personal or try and spread FUD about what I have said in the past it just shows your feeble attempts to silence me. You can't handle the truth when it comes and smacks you in the face.

@Knight Marquise

Anytime I post you come and spat off your typical rhetoric and hyperbole. I have come to expect this type of behavior from you. Judging from your post you must have some unresolved issues related to your childhood.

I will pray that your daughter does not have to suffer the same injustices you had to as a small boy. Its not your fault. Let it go.

@Deaftly

Keep making up arguments to suit your own bias. I guess if you believe something enough times in your own head it might just come true. Let me know how that works out for you.

@Leobebes

If everything I say is so predictable simply do not waste your time reading or responding. The truth is the truth. I loathe the 360 because I have had extremely bad luck with it. My opinion is based off of experience and not just a blind hate. If you can't accept that or if you are tired of hearing about it just skip over my post's.

You should be more upset about the trollish post I responded to in the first place.

@John

Go through my post history and show everyone where I was claiming 9. You are the one hating here not me. Keep on drinking your haterade. Whatever makes you feel better.

I should start calling you Mr.Faux News for distorting the facts with lies and exaggerations.

@Vidikron

I appreciate the kind words. Whether they want to believe it or not it is the truth. Attempts to marginalize my opinion and suppress the truth and are all to common on this blog. The real injustice hear is the extremely trollish post I responded to in the first place has gone unnoticed to these attackers. Its pretty par for the course on here for people to shit on the PS3 for no good reason. I have a reason to hate the 360. If they do not want to listen to reality and distort the facts because of a preference they have then they can live in denial.

Again, thanks for the kind words.

Here, Poop, have a cool drink. You must be tired from doing all that bitch-slapping...

Wow, John, Deaftly, Knight Marcheese, AND Leobabies all in one place.

It's like the Rat Pack of stupid.

dude, you need to find a way to summarize your comments, have you ever had a comment on Joystiq that is less than 400 characters?...

Don't read it. I am just expressing my opinion. I do not try to make them long on purpose.

Sorta like how Valve has it where you unlock so many achievments you get a new weapon. And the rest are left up to you to do it.

Oh, and...

"There needs to be incentive to earn the trophies other than just to bag or for gamer credibility."

Gamer credibility? Achievements/Trophies just prove that you accomplished certain challenges set by the developer, it doesn't really give you any kind of cred, for some reason people think that the higher your gamescore is, the better gamer you are

Noshino

Don't know if this is a double post but here it goes ...

Don't read my comments if the length bothers you that much. It is not intentional on my part to make my comments extremely long. I am just voicing my opinion (you know the purpose of this website).

Quality over Quantity (I like to think so anyway but I am sure some would beg to differ)

tl;dr = your friend

@Noshino

"Gamer credibility? Achievements/Trophies just prove that you accomplished certain challenges set by the developer, it doesn't really give you any kind of cred, for some reason people think that the higher your gamescore is, the better gamer you are"


All I am trying to say is they need to give Me (the gamer) an incentive to do these accomplishments/trophies beyond for the sake of doing so. Give me some virtual content that has some value to me. I think Home is the perfect place to integrate an idea like this. I feel that I laid my idea for trophies perfectly in the first post in this reply chain.

I want something more than a number or a level. Give those numbers a value within the avatar/Home experience.

Am I alone in this thought?

@Mitsuo

Not quite what Valve did in that circumstance. More like have the trophies also function as virtual monies to spend in Home. That is in addition to them also functioning as an achievement tracker from pre set developer challenges.

oh, I do agree with you on the point of giving more incentives, I was just commenting in regards of the gamer cred part of your comment

"There needs to be incentive to earn the trophies other than just to bag or for gamer credibility."

when trophies/achievements, as of now, are just for bragging.

I don't really buy that. Even if you unlock a special item in Home for getting a certain achievement, it's still basically going to be for bragging purposes.

"Hey look at me, I have a t-shirt for completing FFXIII"

What your incentive idea fails to take in to account are the fact that games are useless. They're trivial. They're there for your own fun and enjoyment. The trophies are there as an incentive for you to persevere and try out new things (like the damn 'Late Boomer' trophy). They themselves are the incentive.

If you don't want trophies, just ignore them. Games are about having fun, and this is meant to increase the lifetime of your games.

@Karlw

I just want some sort of a value attached to the trophies/gamer score. Maybe it does not have to be items within Home. I just thought that would be an ideal place to implement something like I mentioned. Microsoft could do something similar with their Avatars.

I could also agree with letting us convert out trophies/gamer score into some sort of virtual monies to spend in the marketplace. Maybe 1,000 gamer points converts into 100 Market Place points. You still have your total tally of all points you have got since the start but they also can be converted into spendable virtual monies.

It would add something more to the entire thing.

Meh, at least this actually affects the gameplay, versus which version has more HD quality graphics than the other.

I know! I noticed that the price of Uncharted has gone up slightly on ebay too. Undoubtedly due to the incoming Trophy patch.

Yep, I bought SSHD for two main reasons. I wanted to check out the trophy system and, considering I had yet to purchase anything from the Store, I wanted to see how that went as well. Two birds, one stone.

And I don't regret it one bit. Even if SSHD didn't have trophies it would have been worth the coin.

You're right. But have you been asleep for 3 years? MS debuted this (plus the even more whorey gamerscore) in November 2005.

Something wrong with adding to the experience? Not everyone is going to care about the achievement/trophies, but the great thing about them is they can be ignored if you don't care about them. But for other people they are to the replayability of the game. They can give you extra goals to shoot for beyond what the game may normally require for completion.

Meh... surely it's not that difficult to think of a different goals to earn a trophy. You could probably have intern come up with some good ones in a single afternoon.

I doubt thinking up new goals is the hard part. You do realize that they have to build the trophies into the code, though, right? That takes more than an intern and 10 minutes.

I thought you were talking about making the trophies different from the 360 acheivements? If so, they are going to have to put trophies in there either way so I doubt changing the goal is that much work.

Now, if you're talking about trophies in general, then I also have to disagree. They should be mandatory for new games or the whole system is pretty pointless. Besides, MS makes achievements mandatory too.

I AM talking about making them different. If developers could just make PS3 trophies the same as XBL Achievements, I don't think it would put much extra pressure on developers at all since (as you mentioned) 360 games already require them anyway so developers would already have planned them out and built the "hooks" for them into the game. My point is that if Sony forces developers to put DIFFERENT goals into PS3 games for trophies than the developer was already going to put in for the 360 version's achievements, then the developer is going to have to spend extra time (and money) planning out those trophy goals and building the hooks for them into the game. I doubt it's a huge extra expenditure, but it's still extra time and money the developers are going to have to spend for a pretty lame reason.

Like I said, I disagree completely. If you're going to have to code in trophies either way, I don't see how changing the hooks is a major change. I mean, we're talking about changing an achievement that says something like, "Get 500 kills in a ranked CTF match" to "Get 750 kills in team deathmatch". Again, all you have to do is just think of a different hook. I really don't see this as all that time or resource consuming.