E308: Sony 'disappointed' by FFXIII for 360

Yeah... but by the time FF 13 is out, the 360 will have the install to hard disc option. That sounds like a perfect solution to swapping discs. That is, of course if they allow you to just have disc 1 in the console at all times.

They mention that you need the disc in the drive to work, if it works for multiple discs I will be surprised. What is preventing me and my friends from just keeping one disc and copying the rest to our hard drives?

Just sayin

I am also slightly regretting my ps3 purchase, but MGS was awesome and I am a huge ratchet and clank fan.

@Dirty, they will most likely make disc 1 the playable one and disc 2 the cutscenes which you can download. You would need disc 1 to play and once you've put disc 2 on your hard drive. Who is going to want a disc of cutscenes from you if they can't do anything with it?

the only reason we copy the game to the hard drive is so that it doesent load.

I don't see how they get to make fun of us having to change discs, Final Fantasy 7 was a bunch of discs, so was Metal Gear Solid. Fear Effect. Resident Evil 2. C'mon. Changing discs is a tradition!

@Dylan That really wouldnt make sense, if you didnt have a hard drive you would have to switch discs everytime a cut scene came up. Keep in mind that there are a few poor souls out there without a hard drive still.

Installation does not take 30 minutes. >_> And it cuts down the load times. If you don't (or can't) install FF XIII on the 360 hard drive, load times will be a lot slower than the PS3 version.

Can't say swapping discs is a major issue for me, though. It's not like you have to swap them every time you go to a new area or something. I'm not that lazy.

Seeing how blue dragon was on three discs I doubt FF13 will be on 2.

Agree. I'm a PS3 owner (only came by here because I saw the post at the bottom of Engadget), and TBH, I don't really mind about FF13 going multiplatform.

Well, I don't mind so long as it doesn't push the release back too much. The fact that more gamers are able to enjoy a game doesn't lessen my enjoyment of it.

all gamers don't have to own all 3 systems these days apparently...

....Holy snot man, did you bother to read that before you posted your rant?

Those are not the words of a person who owns all three systems. Judging by the illiteracy and frantic "the PS3 is not losing" comments, I'd hazard a guess that you only have a PS3.

Even though you are wrong this article isn't talking about worldwide, we're talking about North America and Europe.

We're not saying the PS3 sucks, we're talking about being happy as a collective group of gamers that FFXIII is available on multiple consoles.

So simmer down, sunshine. Let the adults talk.

You used sunshine twice. I'm pretty sure that's illegal.

My bad wrong reply.

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Yep, given the apparent last-minute-ness of the decision, they probably don't have the 360 version up and running yet.

There may (and don't take this as fanboy bashing) be some compromises that need to be made for the 360 version. It's still up in the air, I'd imagine. They don't want to release anything until it's a proper indication of what the game will look like.

Any compromises that may be made because of space will be offset by the robust architecture and dev tools available for the 360.

PS3 = More available number-crunching power (AI, Physics, etc) and more storage (BluRay)
360 = Better architecture to better utilize its available processing power over the 3 cores, better memory footprint, better gpu, better online and system feature integration (Friends lists, chat, etc)

Each have their pros and cons, just the 360s often lead to visible and observable differences in games, where as the PS3s are more complimentary (Dont get me wrong, important, just not as front and center) differences. Take for example the better memory, sys architecture, and gpu - all of those translate into a larger environment able to be pulled off with less and faster load times (Faster DVD also helps this) with more detail and action all being rendered smoother and with higher fidelity. PS3 on the other hand while it may suffer FPS issues and such, they can offset the slower loads by mandatory installs so that while they cant handle as many textures and such in memory at once as the 360, they can at least load them quickly from the hard drive) and increase physics and AI response with less of an impact as the 360 version, granted, thats only if they arent utilizing extra GPU cycles to offset the physics and AI needs from the CPU... I dont know how far they are pushing and have pushed the 360s GPU or any of the systems architecture really... Not to mention "tricks" can be pulled to make any differences less noticable, for example on GTA4, using a blur filter instead of properly anti-aliasing the screen on the PS3 version made it less resource intensive but able to have a similar effect.

All in all I do find it humorous when people pull the "But, I dont want the PS3 version limited by the 360","The PS3 is more powerful than the 360","Untapped Potential", etc. I dont call disc space untapped potential, I call it overkill as processor speeds increase and loss-less compression improve.

According to Yōichi Wada, the game hasn't even begun PS3 development yet. Currently the engine is running on PC.

Ill be honest. DMC4 wasnt all that great. Once I got turned around and had to play all the levels as Dante I lost interest.

Also DMC is huge is Japan where the PS3 has a big install base. I would reckon that a large amount of the sales tipping point came from the land of the rising sun.

VGChartz is not accurate and is about as reliable as Wikipedia. Based on NPD numbers, DMC4 has sold more on the Xbox 360 than the PS3.

2-3 most likely. Maybe even 4 but it won't exceed 4. Lost Odyssey was 4 disks and i'm sure FFXIII will be a "bigger" game overall in terms of both content and more cut scenes. But Square stressed that they would use compression without affecting the quality of the game. Which makes sense since compression techniques have improved a lot over the years, including audio compression. Video is what will take up most of the games disk space anyhow.

Quote is actually accurate. Straight from Tretton.

If that's a comment directed to me, I don't get it.

Sorry Sora, that was for SlickRick

Because it's a first-party title. Yeah, Sony would be raking in the sales left and right, but also helping out the competition.

That exclusivity might have something to do with God of War III being developed by Sony Computer Entertainment Studios Santa Monica.

Yeah, not third-party.

Ah, I didn't know it was Sony. Makes sense now. Thanks.

God of War is Sony's IP.

As in Halo is MS's IP.

Even though they may be developed by 3rd party.

Because the game is produced by the Sony Game Division.

God of War was developed by Sony Computer Entertainment Studios Santa Monica, a division of Sony.

Halo was developed by Bungie, which prior to the release of that game was an independant developer but was acquired and became a subsidary of Microsoft. Only recently, has Bungie left the Microsoft fold, and become a private company. If I'm not mistaken, Microsoft owns the Halo IP, a minority share in Bungie, and the rights to publish certain future Bungie titles.

That's what I said in my previous post and someone said I had sand in my vagina. WTF????

Yeah it seems like a typo, hey, we all make mistakes when writing stuff, like writing the wrong word/name. I know i have. I'm sure he'll correct it later.

The quote is exactly as Mr. Tretton said to the team at Joystiq.