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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 7:57PM (Unverified) said

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so...IT'S A COOKBOOK!






(Neat)
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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 8:00PM (Unverified) said

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I wasn't sure if this was a joke or not when I read the headline. I'm still not sure.

I have to ask, what with all this (hard)core vs casual gamer furore, where Joystiq stands in it all?

Considering myself a hardcore gamer I sure as hell don't care about a Jamie Oliver interactive cookbook for the DS and I don't imagine most of the rest of the people who read or comment on Joystiq do either. This kind of application certainly has a place in the DS market, and I'm sure it will sell more than a lot of 'proper' games but is it really necessary or desirable for Joystiq to report on this sort of stuff (however much your tongues may be in your cheeks)?
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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 8:15PM (Unverified) said

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Actually I play whatever I think is cool and I can see myself playing this as long as the gameplay is good. At the end I just want to play a good game.

Also at some point everyone should at least learn how to make a decent meal .I just hope the recipes are actually good and none of that overrated pseudo-fancy food, fusion, Zen or tex-mex dishes. I hate those.

I really hope they include classic French, Italian and some Mexican recipes. Maybe Chinese and Japanese recipes and some from Spain, that would be good.

If you ask me most players are actually mid-core.

(I know it as Zen but is like a mix between Japanese and Chinese food that is really expensive and the flavor is nothing especial and at the end is a rip-off)


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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 8:20PM jorojoserojas said

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I don't know about all this hardcore/casual/midcore stuff. I play what interests me.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 9:15PM (Unverified) said

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Jorojoserojas: I respect that you are a free thinking individual that will not bow to peer pressure on the matter. However the point I was trying to get at, and it's not necessarily related to Jamie Oliver, is that the the video game market is a very different beast to what it was even a few years back.

We are seeing a diversification of the demographics who enjoy video games hand in hand with a vastly different array of styles of video games/interactive entrainment and by all estimations this is only going to intensify. I have no immediate problem with this, the diversification can only be good and it shows that video games are moving toward the same kind of acceptance that cinema, books, television and music have achieved.

Within these mediums there is something for everyone. There are plentiful supplies of books aimed solely at children, books for people who like cooking, books for people who like to read about the lives of others, book for intellectuals etc etc. There will inevitably be an overlap between some of these distinctions but for the most part each carries a particular identity. Again, this is how the games industry will continue to develop, with something for everyone. In 5 years time I imagine every celebrity chef will have his or her own DS (or whatever) game in the same way that they have their own cookbooks. Similarly there will be many more games aimed solely at children, games for older people, games for girls, games for child girls, games for people who want to learn to sew or speak French. The video game system will become almost ubiquitous, little different from a DVD player now (though I don't imagine it will be single format) we won't be defined by being video game players but by what type of video games we play in the same way that film preferences define us now.

As such (online) communities will be built up around these vastly different game style preferences. Joystiq at this time can certainly be considered a 'core gamer' blog/community, I'm fairly sure that is not a contested comment. What I wonder is whether it is necessary for Joystiq now or in the future to be reporting on Jamie Oliver, Dora the Explorer, Barbie Hairdresser or Knitting Warrior 2 games. This type (of largely made up but inevitable games) aren't really relevant to the community or our interests. In the same way that I wouldn't expect a review of the latest Vin Diesel film when I'm on a world cinema discussion site I don't really need to read about casual gaming on a core gamer blog. I'm not trying to define what Joystiq is or does and I'm certainly not trying to be an elitist hardcore gaming snob, I'm just curious.

I'm going to stop right there because I'm pretty sure I'm descended into incoherency and lost sight of whatever point I'm trying to make, but that's generally how I feel and you can call me whatever you want because of it, as I'm pretty sure I've been called much worse.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 8:10PM KaneRobot said

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I saw Jamie Oliver on TV once at 4 am when I was home late from a concert and drunk out of my gourd. I've never seen him on TV since. And now he has a DS game.

There's no point to this story. Just sharing.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 9:51PM Korova Pamplona said

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lol, thanks.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 8:11PM (Unverified) said

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Fork off.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 8:33PM (Unverified) said

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The fact it actually has the actual recipes and whatnot is actually interesting. Now if only it came with someone who got angry at me when I failed making said recipes in real life.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 8:37PM (Unverified) said

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I consider myself a hardcore gamer and i'm also a huge cooking fanatic. Its an important life skill. Gook well and you eat well, not to mention the impressiveness factor when the ladies are 'round.

I think that it would be great to see a game like this take off with the same gusto as brain training did. Brain training only really helps the user, this game could end up benefitting not only the user but their children, perhaps with the cooking skills and knowledge being passed down the line, resulting in a richer food culture and healthier lifestyles.

None of what I have just said is forced to come true but I think the potential is a huge and I believe that Jamie Oliver is one of the most deserving chefs to have fronting this game considering the work he's done already.

Personally, i'd like to see a Gordon Ramsay version, though I imagine that one may have a hard time getting through the BBFC ;)
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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 8:42PM Porygandrew said

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What about "Cooking Guide" to be released in November? Sure it's not as fancy with a 'game' part, but as an 'interactive cookbook' it looks pretty schnazzy.

And for those who complain about titles like these for the DS, I actually really like these things because not only does it expand the DS's use, but for those non-male, non-13-30-year-olds, this provides some utility to an entertainment device. Plus look at all the uses the DS is getting in Japan whereas it's still just a 'game device' everywhere else.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 8:47PM (Unverified) said

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It came out over here (UK) a while ago, and got quite a lot of marketing. Seems pretty good, though I hear the voice recognition can be a little wobbly.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 8:45PM Sora said

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I agree with this article; Nintendo of Europe execs ARE useless.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 8:48PM (Unverified) said

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Will the recipe for Turkey Twizzlers be included?
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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 8:50PM Cal said

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Turkey Twizzlers.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 9:09PM (Unverified) said

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Honestly, this really fixes what I always hated about Cooking Mama: no translation to real life. When I first saw that game I was stoked to be able to practice through complicated recipes before trying them in the kitchen. As silly as this seems, it is the first real evolution in the way recipes are presented since somebody figured out how to number the steps.

And those of who you leave your basements 1 day a week to get more Hot Pockets and Mountain Dew might think that toting your DS to the market sounds absurd, it's not nearly as ridiculous for daily commuters who have stuff like with them all the time.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 9:45PM enReturns said

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i like pie
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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 9:55PM Korova Pamplona said

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That actually sounds pretty good: You play through making it, go shopping list in hand, make it and ...

that's where the real game starts:

do you eat it?
do you chuck it?
do you give it to the cat? neighbor?

hmmm.. .
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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 10:02PM (Unverified) said

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Or shove it in your ass to stimulate your prostate.
The possibilities are endless.




(This is the worst reply I have ever post but I just returned from /b/ )
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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 10:51PM Supermanisdead said

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Mr. ESC get out of /b/ it will ruin your life!
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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 11:01PM (Unverified) said

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It already did son,it already did.

Now to draw some delicious cake and fap to whatever is on in the front page.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 11:44AM (Unverified) said

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An Alton Brown cooking-related game would sell absolute bajillions. Makes ya wonder why there's not one already.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 1:27PM Korova Pamplona said

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Every time someone says "it will sell bajillions", it really means they will buy one and they dont think its weird to buy it, so everyone else will think so too.

But it may very well BE weird and then:

bajillion = 1

But it this case, since I agree with you, it will sell 2 bajillions.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 11:50PM (Unverified) said

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Hey...that sounds like a lot of bajillions.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 11:17PM ThornedVenom said

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I'm not a casual gamer, but the fact that you can learn real-life experience from it makes this game very appealing. They should really market on that.
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Posted: Jul 21st 2008 11:24PM gankit said

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what's cooking? with gordon ramsay.
make it "M" rated, pl0x.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 1:19AM (Unverified) said

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Hmmmm. Since this is a shamless rip-off of something Nintendo already did (Cooking Navi: Cant decide what to Eat?), this game has to be published by Ubisoft.

*Checks article* ATARI?!?!?!! What. The. Fuck. I thought Harrison was going to bring all these new and fresh ideas to Atari. Apparently, the only idea he has is "lets do what Ubisoft failed at doing, and somehow cock it up even more". I understand they're all that separates you from Euro 3rd Party dominance, but give me a fucking break. A few more of this and Alone in the Dark and he is officialy going to sink the SS ATARI.

Maybe this is all part of Sony Europe's secret plan to dominate the market?
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 10:15AM (Unverified) said

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Unless it gives an option for killing Jamie Oliver with random kitchen devices then this game deserves the zero sales its going to receive.

His most well known saying: "pucker", close to what comes to my mind whenever i see him...just one letter off...
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