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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 12:33PM (Unverified) said

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Duh
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 4:40PM thund3rstruck said

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So then the Bioshock senior programmer must have been lying on XPlay last night when he stated clearly that the team was able to include extremely high-res textures that couldn't fit on the 360 and that the PS3 version looked significantly better on the PS3 thanks to "the power of Blu-Ray"
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 5:06PM arrrgh said

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it's called "BLOWING SMOKE UP YOUR ASS"

that's what he does to fanboys. it makes him money
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 11:17PM (Unverified) said

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Why would cell help the graphics... that's the job of the GRAPHICS PROCESSING UNIT
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 12:35PM DericLee said

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Oh noez!!

Sony Defense force ACTIVATE!!

The graphics ARE better because...
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 1:52PM Spunky Monkey 190906 said

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...its on PS3
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 2:07PM Vegeta has a ps3 said

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TEH BLOO-RAYS!!!
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 2:32PM Trojan said

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trofees!
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 4:49PM AUserName said

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4D!!!! FOUR DEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 12:36PM Vidikron said

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OK

/thread
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 1:43PM Roto13 said

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What thread?
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 12:38PM koehler83 said

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Every bit worth the year long delay.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 12:38PM Vol said

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Ok, before I get voted down.. I own both the 360 & PS3.

Let me state that I think that the graphical capabilities of the PS3 & 360 are identical. I have played all the big titles for both consoles.

This doesn't surprise me.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 12:50PM Dr Stabbingworth said

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Fanboys are the new audiophiles. Seeing things that aren't there.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 12:54PM (Unverified) said

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Problem is, Sony overpromised and underdelivered. PS3fanboys genuinely believe they are going to get Crysis graphics eventually. Its not. 360 and PS3 are very diff in architecture but really have the same limitations. PS3 has its advantages and 360 also has its advantages.

There is no game on PS3 that can't be on 360 even with all this junk Sony execs feed the sheep about "all games in 1080P and bluray" or "only possible on PS3" Case in point, FFXIII. MGS4 could be on 360 as well. Don't wanna flame or whatever but the truth is the truth.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 12:57PM Duke said

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I agree with Dr. Stabbingworth. Fanboys want to believe that their console of choice outperforms the main competition, whether the facts show it or not. Its annoying.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 1:02PM Vol said

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Oh yeah, I forgot I had a Wii too. Ooops.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 1:07PM Withad said

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After all the other identical comparisons, I don't think it truly surprises anyone. It just really annoys a lot of them for some reason.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 1:23PM (Unverified) said

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"Oh yeah, I forgot I had a Wii too. Ooops."

A lot of people forget they have a Wii.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 1:27PM Neebs said

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Problem is Stabbingworth, is that we audiophiles really do hear things others don't. I have friends that can't tell the difference between 128K vs. 320K. But to me the difference is huge.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 1:28PM Obienator said

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I know, can you believe there were some that paid $599 for the thing? I will buy a PS3 when it hits $299 ( which I feel will be this holiday season).
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 2:06PM (Unverified) said

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The fact that they're identical has nothing to do with the hardware. It's because the developers start out with basic groundwork to make sure that both games run efficiently on both platforms to make their large investment pay off when the game is released.

One is better than the other. But we'll never really know since it's in the developer's hands.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 2:07PM Haggard said

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I'm a PS3 owner but the stupidity of all console owners never ceases to amaze me. People keep throwing up the Cell and Blu-Ray as reasons why the PS3 is a billion times better than the 360, but the graphics of the system is determined by the GPU and both systems are quite closely matched on that; in that my PC is better than both :D
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 5:09PM arrrgh said

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well if you're going to start talking money, when it all boils down to it, ps3 is still a damn cheap, well performing blu ray player that also plays games.

I did the future shop lcdtv+stereo bundle and got them to throw in a ps3 instead of the lousy stereo...

in the end i got a 40gb PS3 for $50. Not bad for a blu ray player

considering i paid 400 for my 360 and 275 for my wii
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 12:38PM McWeen said

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It is a great game anyway. If you haven't played it you need to. No other reason for people to get the PS3 version besides they don't have a 360.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 12:40PM MC Double Def DP said

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Would you kindly wait 7 minutes for installation of Bioshock?
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 12:43PM (Unverified) said

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Oh thats low, that one hurt.

:P
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 1:18PM puerrican85 said

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Could be worse.... could be 20 minutes..

Devil May Cry.... )-;
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 1:46PM erac3rx said

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To play it on a console that doesn't have a DVD drive so loud you can hardly stand it and with load times that are better? Yes, yes I do have 7 minutes (and 2 LOUD 360 consoles)
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 1:53PM Vcize said

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As hilarious as that is, they really SHOULD put that on the install screen.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 2:20PM KaneRobot said

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crackp1pe - don't worry, in 2 or 3 months the 360 will have quicker installs than the PS3, so people can *choose* which superior 360 method they wish to use to play it.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 5:25PM AGBear said

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I think I just learned the definition of "lol".
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 12:43PM Gamer X said

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Way to start a flame blog! :-(
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 12:52PM (Unverified) said

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Installs? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

w/e
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 12:52PM (Unverified) said

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I've said this before but I think since bluray has the extra storage space that developers should use it. For example in Grand Theft Auto 4 each time I leave the gun shop I shouldn't have to hear the same couple of lines. I doubt it's insanely cost preventive to give us bit more dialogue than "so long shooter" and that it's because it would anger the XBox users, but hell... I feel a lot of games are being held back by the shortcomings of the XBox.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 1:55PM Vcize said

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No one is going to base their decision on whether or not to purchase the game based on the guy sometimes saying "see ya fella" instead of "so long shooter", so they're not going to put the time/cost into doing something that generates zero extra dollars.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 2:12PM (Unverified) said

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I know a lot of reviewers that complained about the lack of variation on the sound effects in GTA4 and I believe they cut back to fit it on XBox.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 2:19PM FredFredrickson said

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Ah, but you can't do stuff like that when you've got half as much RAM at your disposal.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 4:32PM TomCo said

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Developers are under no obligation (and rightly so) to completely fill a blu-ray disc with content just "because its there".

Thats fucking retarded beyond belief.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 5:05PM AUserName said

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Yea... It's all the 360's fault. It has nothing to do with having to pay for voice talent to add all that extra content. Nooooooo... It's all the 360's fault.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 5:36PM (Unverified) said

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LameDuck, a lot of bands would have paid to be included in the soundtrack
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 9:40PM (Unverified) said

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That is weird. They SHOULD have put extra sound in the PS3 version since they have use of a Blu-Ray disc. Also, instead of lowering the resolution on the PS3 version, they should have put extra pixels on the disc.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 12:54PM spin cycle said

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Haven't I read this somewhere before?

http://www.joystiq.com/2008/05/28/first-screens-of-bioshock-on-ps3/

Protip:
Ports are ports. They are don't for low cost, almost never would the graphics be changed. It'd just take too much effort. This was glaringly obvious on the ports to (for example) the 360 at launch. The Tiger Woods game ended up looking worse than the regular Xbox version (and costing more!).

If the game is going to exploit the capabilities of BluRay, it'll be by including some movie on the disk, like a making-of or something. Something like that is cheap to produce (is likely already on hand) and all you have to do is put a menu item in to access it.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 12:56PM hey buddy said

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Still a valid release, as many people who just joined the latest/"next" generation of machines with a PS3 purchase might not have been involved when BioShock originally melted brains on the 360.

A lot of people will likely post about how funny it is that the PS3 finally gets games like BioShock and Oblivion a year late, but that logic can be flipped too: These PS3 releases muster even less interest to buy a 360 in some people's eyes.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 1:02PM (Unverified) said

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I own both too and the reason baby jesus cries about the lack of any difference in the xbox360 and ps3 graphically is the silly ps3 installs to the harddrive for..umm no good reason.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 1:02PM (Unverified) said

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You mean the Bioshock port for the PS3 is *gasp* the same as the 360 version? This is truly earth-shattering.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 1:03PM (Unverified) said

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I think the port should cost a bit less than a real PS3 game since it's actually just an XBox game.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 1:09PM FredFredrickson said

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That's just ignorant. You should be embarrassed.

Can we end this silly notion that a "port" is just a sloppily configured emulation of the original game?
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 1:27PM (Unverified) said

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No it is not and I am not. By the way, you are the only one that has referred to ports as a sloppily configured emulation of the original game.
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Posted: Jul 22nd 2008 1:39PM Vordus said

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'Just' an Xbox game - Bioshock
A PS3 exclusive - Haze

Haze is worth paying more for than Bioshock?
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