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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 8:44AM (Unverified) said

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I think it was a good selection of questions that were asked, it's just a shame he didn't really give encouraging answers to any of them.

Also, please fix the 'to high' mistake in the last sentence.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 10:29AM (Unverified) said

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Nintendo would if they could...or if they cared.
Of course, we all should have seen it coming when they made a console that profits from the get go. They could have made a 350 dollar console and sold it for 250 like Microsoft and Sony does with their hardware, but ya know...it's not about the customers AT ALL, it's about profits profits profits.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 3:27PM Saria the Cat said

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Yeah, I was about to say, I'm proud of Joystiq for asking tough questions. Those were the real important ones and there wasn't any mindless beating around the bush.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 8:50AM (Unverified) said

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Bullshitchu, I choose you!
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 11:17AM (Unverified) said

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+1 Internets for you.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 1:21PM (Unverified) said

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-1 Internets for you
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 8:54AM puerrican85 said

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''If we included every single title and did demos of every single the reaction from the people at the press conference would be 'you went a little long.''

Your conference was the shortest out of the 3 system...

What a bullshit excuse... just say it... to Nintendo the only important party is the first party...
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 9:22AM baby sea tuna said

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...not to mention the *Mario* Party.


47.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 9:25AM Zombie 52086 said

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Yeah. If they wouldn't have spent 45 minutes patting themselves on the back with their sales numbers maybe they could have shown a few games. After all isn't that what E3 is about? Games? Go tell your investors about your sales numbers. We don't care. Did anyone watching the live blog of their press conference walk away saying "Oh sweet! They sold 13 million consoles in the US! I have been waiting for that announcement!"
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 10:01AM samfish said

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"After all isn't that what E3 is about? Games?"

No, not really, actually...
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 12:05PM Zombie 52086 said

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Then what is the Electronic Entertainment Expo about?
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Posted: Jul 27th 2008 6:42AM mykelsss said

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haha pwnt
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 8:56AM (Unverified) said

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Must be tough to do his job. Talking about how Nintendo still cares about teh hardcorez must be similar to a spokesperson for R J Reynolds saying they don't feel cigarettes have any adverse effects on health.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 1:40PM Vol said

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Nintendo gave up on the hard core gamer when the corporation formed. And if that didn't convince you, they gave up on the hardcore gamer when they didn't go HD for this generation.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 9:02AM (Unverified) said

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Yawn, just PR spin on all of the questions asked.

I love how he responded to the question about lack of core games on the Wii with "Well, if the casual games are good, it shouldn't matter right?". I also don't seem to understand Nintendo's insistance that Animal Crossing is somehow a "core" title. Just kind of demonstrates how out of touch Nintendo has become with the core gamer.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 9:54AM (Unverified) said

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seriously, I'm sick of add-on after add-on, gimmick after gimmck, Mii game after Mii game. A Mii is just a 3-D extremely limited avatar, get over it Nintendo, give me something to get excited about, not a bathroom scale to do yoga on or a new way to look like an idiot with my Wiimote
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 11:09AM (Unverified) said

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Hey! you stole my idea.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 11:24AM (Unverified) said

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@Samfish: Are you Samantha from Gamefaqs?
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 11:26AM (Unverified) said

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ohhhh shi-

there can be only one.. upsidedown mario
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 2:45PM (Unverified) said

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Well if you look at animal crossing it has a history of selling well to the masses. and now that every tween has a DS its easier to get into. So it would make alot of sense to release it on the wii MORE MONEY for them.

I'm sure everyone already knows that Nintendo doesnt need its core gamers to make a buck anymore. All their games are so easy to pick up and play everyone is welcome, from ages 6 to 89.

Also everything they release is quickly gobbled up..... so why not put as little effort as possible into a minigame collection as opposed to a platformer that takes alot of time and reasources to cook up.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 9:02AM McWeen said

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They can't dance around these topics forever. They are getting hammered by every website and magazine about "hardcore" games since E3. I don't need a GTA or FPS for me to think they are reaching out to the hardcore gamer, just stuff that isn't a minigame collection or new piece of plastic.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 9:02AM Nigeria said

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In my dream world, I would love for the Saturn to be placed on the VC with Panzer Dragoon Saga as a first day release. Unlikely, I know. But I'd love to see the reaction of the ebay hoarders if it did happen.

That was a cool interview, sorta. The questions were interesting but you was talking to a spokesman, people who reguritate the company line and nothing further, so no interesting information would have been extracted. Well, no interesting information if you frequent Joystiq, or some other site.

Also, chillax with the core talk.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 9:12AM (Unverified) said

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Funny, I didn't realize Animal Crossing was appealing to hardcore gamers. Something must be wrong with me.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 9:19AM easo said

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It seems that Nintendo's strategy to keep the wii experience fresh is to pump out a new gimmick every couple of months. But what's really sad, is that with the Wii, Nintendo has reached what I call "Mac status" in the gaming community. Meaning that just like apple can put an "i" in front of anything and make a fortune off it, anything Nintendo branded is worth its weight in gold. Literally.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 10:36AM (Unverified) said

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Dead on, sir. The trick to defeating this monster is TO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM THEM, and DON'T DEFEND THEIR BAD DECISIONS. I know you people like your mario because when you were 6, you played the game and it changed your life...whatever. But stop acting like a battered wife and stop making excuses for your bruised up wallet.
That Motion Plus crap...STOP IT. Don't buy it. You know it's a gimmick, you know it's not gonna have a library that can justify itself. You know the Wii Fit is a stupid idea. You know WiiMusic is a stupid idea.
And if you got kids, it's time to teach them about taste, or the outdoors. Show them FREE games like Fantastic Contraption that'll actually teach them about physics.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 11:37AM (Unverified) said

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That's why i bought a 360. I was all about Nintendo, I still love them and will still buy games, but besides the conduit, I don't see anything I want that won't be on 360. Sorry Nintendo, you had your chance, stop fucking over the hardcore.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 9:20AM DrvThruPnk said

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The only useful thing I got out of that is that Wii Speak will be sold separately and not bundled with Animal Crossing. As a prospective buyer of The Conduit, that makes me very happy.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 9:37AM (Unverified) said

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Or they could've done it like Socom for the PS3, where it comes with a free blue tooth. So that would be kind of cool, because you're pretty much getting a free game. Watch them charge $49.99 for the Wii Speak alone.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 9:24AM (Unverified) said

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Seriously, Nintendo could have done an all around good show like MS had. IMO it should have started with Reggie first.

Reggie could have kicked it off and shown quick and short on stage playable demo's of The Conduit, MadWorld, the new Madden NFL 09 All-Play, Call of Duty: W@W pleasing the hardcore who want new IP's. Then they could have just used teasers for a new Mario/Zelda/Kid Icarus/Starfox games pleasing the Nintendo franchise fanboys. They say they're working on the games right? So just give us teasers it works for Sony all the time. After that throw your Shaun White demo in there it looks decent.

Then the "Mom" aka La Smiley could have came in to demo Wii Resort, talk about DS and your typical sales numbers and statistics. Last but not least Miyamoto comes in showcasing WiiMusic but in a normal way. Maybe doing some Windwaker or Ocarina of Time music. Not that retardfest we got.

In the end you have an all around good show that catered to everyone. But NOOOO, you fucked up Nintendo.

BIG TIME!
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 9:57AM samfish said

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I agree overall that that's how it should have gone, except they shouldn't have shown Mad World, as it would have probably stolen the show, thus been counter intuitive to what Nintendo wanted to focus on.
Also, Nintendo fans take pride in knowing that Nintendo doesn't release CG demos the way Sony does. Since most of us, I think it's fair to say, put actual gameplay above other elements, the thinking is that (fanboyism aside), if you aren't going to show the game, why even bother?
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 10:01AM guttertalk said

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I don't get the complaints about the lack of attention for the core gamer (whatever that means). I assume that core gamers read and already know about all the core games like Madworld, The Conduit, Call of Duty 5, etc. It's one reason I find E3 pretty much a bore--they talk about games we already know about.

It's like the kid at the front of the class who gets called on the most but then complains when he isn't chosen.

I agree that Nintendo could have done things differently, but at the same time, hearing about things you already know about isn't news. Another clip of The Conduit? Like we need more evidence that it's the best looking Wii game?

And Call of Duty: World at War for the Wii was there at E3.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 10:09AM (Unverified) said

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@samfish,

PS3 CG demos are better than no demos, and definitely better than "real time" Wii Music footage.

face it man, Nintendonald's has dropped the core gamer faster than a hot potato.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 10:21AM (Unverified) said

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"And Call of Duty: World at War for the Wii was there at E3."

Sure, it was...on video. Notice how I said "short on stage playable demos" a la MS's Fallout 3, RE5 and GOW2 hands on demonstrations.

Samfish

You have a point, and I already knew Nintendo never does thr teasers but man, they should have this time damnit! :( I was just so hyped b4 Nintendos show but got nothing.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 10:40AM guttertalk said

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But if EA doesn't have a playable demo at their own booth, how is that Nintendo's responsibility?

But again, these are titles we all know about.

I have several complaints as others with Nintendo (storage for one), but showing demos of games we know are coming just seems so low on the list.

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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 10:41AM guttertalk said

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But if EA doesn't have a playable demo at their own booth, how is that Nintendo's responsibility?

But again, these are titles we all know about.

I have several complaints as others with Nintendo (storage for one), but showing demos of games we know are coming just seems so low on the list.

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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 10:44AM guttertalk said

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But if EA doesn't have a playable demo at their own booth, how is that Nintendo's responsibility?

Madworld had a demo (though not a hands-on demo) there.

But again, these are titles we all know about.

I have several complaints as others with Nintendo (storage for one), but showing demos of games we know are coming just seems so low on the list. It's not like anyone is going to decide on an E3 demo whether or not to buy the game.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 10:54AM (Unverified) said

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That doesnt matter, I knew RE5, Fallout3 and Gears 2 were coming yet I still got giddy with delight when I saw the on stage demonstration.

Trust me the Reginator and Nintendo would have gone over way better if the games I mentioned would have been demonstrated. Seeing cool games being used and actually showing the mechanics gets peoples hyped way more than video footage.

If you ask me Reggie was full of it when he said WiiResort-Jetski was more his speed. Dude looks like a psycho killer so MadWorld should be right up his alley.

:P
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 11:50AM puerrican85 said

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As V said in V for Vendetta.

"A man after my own heart"

You summed up it Fenix.... now if only the big N listened :-\
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 12:28PM verymetal said

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MS had a good press conference. Not great, but good. I think it is somewhat embarrissing for them to even flat out copy the Mii avatars. I mean, are they really that desperate to look like Nintendo? The Miis for the Wii have that Nintendo look and feel. For a company like MS to always state that they are true innovators, it just makes me laugh. As far as Nintendo showing something for future core games, I am glad they didnt. It pisses me off when companies announce titles at E3, and then they arent even released when the next E3 hits a year later. I would rather not know, and be surprised with less of a wait, then be told about a future game, and wait for over two years for it. It seems MS copied the eye toy from Sony as well. How about Lips? Seems like singstar to me. Also, I guess when MS stoops to the level of being followers and not leaders, they need to keep telling themselves that they are being innovators.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 3:06PM Mr Khan said

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But they haven't dropped the core gamer, they've just sort of left us in the cold, to find our own awesomeness on the platform while they promote the casual junk

It's a more accurate description, anyway. Because a show with Wario Land, the Conduit, Fatal Frame, and MadWorld would've been awesome, and wouldn't have all this doom and gloom FUD all over the place. We know it's there, they just don't care to bother to show it to us

Stupid people mistake that for them "abandoning the core gamer," but most of us are, i hope, smarter than that
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 4:11PM (Unverified) said

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"Since most of us, I think it's fair to say, put actual gameplay above other elements, the thinking is that (fanboyism aside), if you aren't going to show the game, why even bother?"

Well, I prefer having a CGI announcement a la GoW3 than just have Miyamoto say that their teams are hard at work.

Either way, I don't get why Sony only showed the stupod CGI of MAG when they had so many games to show, including Heavy Rain and such...did Nintendo and/or Microsoft had closed door conferences like Sony did? if not, why the fuck would Sony do that?...
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 9:32AM Jayslacks said

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Excellent interview. I still haven't bought a Wii, and I doubt I ever will at this point. Not because I can't find one. But because the games are butt. Dudubutt.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 9:36AM (Unverified) said

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Nintendo is obsessed with getting the hardcore gamer to accept casual games instead of turning casual gamers into, maybe not hardcore, but more interested gamers themselves

My interest in Nintendo does not include flailing like an idiot for WiiMusic, it includes flailing like an idiot for Project HAMMER and Zelda, and no amount of waggle minigames are going to change that
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 9:40AM (Unverified) said

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What's going on with the Wii? I mean I have to buy a Wii, Wii Speak for how much?, and a Wii Motion Plus for another $. When I can just buy a 360. I already have both and love them, but think about an average consumer that's trying to save. You don't want to buy "fixers" on top of the system. These things should've worked from the get go.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 9:49AM (Unverified) said

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dude just wait till MotionPlusXtreme comes out next year, you'll be able to guide a Nintendonkey in its path with accuracy never seen before.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 10:11AM (Unverified) said

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Ha ha, that's awesome. Somehow, I can totally picture this!
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 9:46AM (Unverified) said

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"The core, when they first heard about the motion sensing capabilities of the Wii remote and Wii Sports, were skeptical. But when they tried it, they liked it."

bahahaha! thats comedy right there! Nintendonald's at it again...
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 9:46AM (Unverified) said

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"The core, when they first heard about the motion sensing capabilities of the Wii remote and Wii Sports, were skeptical. But when they tried it, they liked it."

bahahaha! thats comedy right there! Nintendonald's at it again...
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 9:52AM mgarc1125 said

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I love the answer for the storage limits question.

"We hear the gamers loud and clear on that...and we're not going to do anything about it."
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 9:58AM (Unverified) said

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Joystiq: Why would a third-party developer choose to release their title over WiiWare versus alternative channels such as XBLA or PSN?

Nintendonald's: they'll choose our WiiWare because developers dont want to bother with online play, and even if a few do, they want to only offer really stripped down barebones online play, so thats why WiiWare is better than PSN and Xbox Live.
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