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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 2:09PM OMGOMG said

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Giant Bomb is amazing. Been loving it so far.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 7:16PM (Unverified) said

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Really awesome, glad to see it go from its blog into a full fledged site.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 2:10PM silverwolf761 said

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Why does a review have to have some arbitrary number attached to it? Why not state what they like/dislike about said game (giving video "evidence" of these stances would help) and have the reader formulate a score if they absolutely need to? Isn't it time people started thinking for themselves?
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 2:34PM (Unverified) said

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I have no idea why this point has become such a rallying cry amongst pretentious blog commenters these days. A score is a simple way of expressing how good a game is in a way that is comprehensible at a glance. Have you ever tried reading one of Kotaku's no-score reviews? Half the time, you come out not even understanding whether they liked the game or not!

The best part about scores, too, is that you can ignore them! Do you wish that [insert site here] didn't put scores on their games? Then just don't look at the score! The rest of the view contains exactly what you want--what they like and don't like about the game.

God forbid someone should draw a conclusion. You can still disagree with it, it's okay.

/rant off
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 2:37PM silverwolf761 said

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It just gives people more ammunition in the "Game X got a 9.5 and this one only got 9.4! WTF?!!!" type arguments we see constantly. Letting people formulate for themselves would help alleviate this.

The only reason I can think of someone having something against such a system is if they're too lazy to read.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 2:42PM SilverFireshot said

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I totally agree, I usually just read reviews and ignore the score. A score doesn't tell me anything since it is subjective. At least a review will tell me the mechanics of the game and let me decide whether it's my type of game or not.

But a single number is just easier to argue on the internet.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 2:50PM Stink Snake said

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I believe the people who complain about sites giving scores to games are the children of parents that wanted to remove grading from schools.

"Son, how did you do on your report card"

"Three lilacs, two fuchsias and a mauve in English"

"Good job, Son! Let's celebrate with some soy McNuggets."
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 2:57PM silverwolf761 said

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@ Stink Snake:

Your method of deduction is flawed. In school, 100% is clearly defined as answering all of the provided question correctly.

But what is a 10 on the review scale? It changes from review to review, from person to person, and from game to game. The only purpose of scores is so you can compare games, but if the scale changes constantly, how can they be compared?

Unless each score on the scale is clearly defined and adhered to, it won't work
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 5:37PM aristokrat said

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I've always preferred the easy '2 thumbs' summarizing (2 up means must play, 1 = pretty good, 0 = okay/enjoyable, 1 down = fundamentally flawed, 2 down = don't play at all). This gets rid of the point system that causes so much frustration, while distilling the commentary down to what everyone basically tells their friends about games anyway ("You've got to play this," "It's really fun," "it's cool," "can be fun if you're dedicated," and " it sucks"). I know I rarely say to friends "This game is a 8.7!"

The school comparison really highlights the problem with scores, in that they imply some kind of objectivity (especially as the scale gets bigger). These are 70% subjective reviews, so why not reflect that with the grading instead of trying to nail things down? That's what EGM tried with their letter scale, and I like their approach.
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Posted: Jul 24th 2008 12:50AM (Unverified) said

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aristokrat, that is simply a 1-5 scale with different symbols. Were you arguing for or against traditional scores?
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Posted: Jul 24th 2008 5:53PM aristokrat said

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I understand that it is similar to a 1-5 scale, but without the outrage of getting a "4." "4" games are still pretty good, but people equate that with 80%, which is not good. Single thumbs up could mean great if you like this kind of game, while 2 thumbs up would mean a must-play for almost all gamers. I think attaching numerical values causes too much controversy.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 2:15PM (Unverified) said

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Giant Bomb is awesome. I encourage everyone to go register. Its a very community based website.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 2:17PM copa said

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I am very impressed with the site, and their ability to put together something compelling that feels very different from the other game sites out there.

They have placed a big emphasis on transparency, from doing behind-the-scenes features on how the site is built, to creating Wiki infrastructure where everyone can review and contribute, to highlighting individual personalities and perspectives rather than hiding behind the 'Editorial We'.

They put up a podcast last night walking through what happened when they turned the site on. They were really surprised by how quickly everything is coming together on the site, and so am I.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 2:20PM McWeen said

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Nadgers.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 2:26PM Fosssil said

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I've been there since the blog site and I must say, it is one of the most well-designed and addictive websites around. I've been making a handful of wiki edits so far, as well as working on some more major additions to certain pages, and it really is fun. I suggest that everyone who hasn't already, go and check it out.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 2:26PM (Unverified) said

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Giant Bomb nail, meet GameSpot coffin...
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 2:41PM silverwolf761 said

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Or:

Stake (Giant Bomb) through the Heart (Gamespot) of the Vampire (cNet)
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 3:10PM Tiptup300 said

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Giant Bomb blows up, kills gamestop. Comeon, that was easy!
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 3:45PM Cal said

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BOOM! Gamestop?
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 5:53PM Odog4ever said

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@silverwolf761

I think you meant
"Stake (Giant Bomb) through the Kidney (Gamespot) of the Granpa (CBS)"

CBS' buyout of all CNET properties went through a while ago...
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 2:54PM foxhoundadam said

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I really like those guys, the have a genuine love for games and a real understanding of the community bhind that. I have high hope for them.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 3:13PM Stink Snake said

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@silverwolf761

The text of a review is equally as subjective as the score at the end. The likes, dislikes, and frustrations vary from reviewer to reviewer just as the scores.

Therefore, I advocate that from now on all reviews must lack any text and are simply accompanied by soothing or alluring color that has been randomly chosen from a hat.

I called Ubisoft and they are already on board with the new system.

From now on please refer to Haze as Haz[ur]e.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 3:15PM Anticrawl said

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It's just to bad Jeff Gerstmann works on this site, otherwise it might be worthwhile. He's a bigger fanboy than most of the trolls on this site and suffers from some sort of personality disorder which becomes very apparent in his wildly personal and rabid reviews.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 3:18PM ScottG13 said

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Really? You dislike his opinions? hahahahah Nice.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 3:31PM Anticrawl said

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He was suppose to be professional. Not many of his reviews were rational or professional, and he took everything personally and lacked any objective reasoning.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 5:52PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, that was his job! REVIEWS ARE SUBJECTIVE -- HIS JOB IS WRITING REVIEWS.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 3:22PM OMGOMG said

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More proof about how awesome the community is already:

Sent Brad Shoemaker a PM about FC2 and it's framrate, and sent me a nice 300 word response. Nice to know the editors will take time out of their busy day to respond to some random pale dude.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 3:33PM (Unverified) said

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I couldn't disagree with Anticrawl more. While Jeff clearly has his likes and dislikes, he is completely upfront about them. If tells you what he truly thinks and feels about a game, just like all of the other reviewers at the site.

He doesn't have some kind of crazy, fanboy agenda like you are implying. Jeff gerstmann is as genuine as they come as far as I'm concerned. It's completely OK to disagree with his opinions on some franchises, because as he himself I'm sure would tell you, everyone has the right to judge things according to their own experience. I know one thing - I respects all of the editorial staff over at the GiantBomb and recommend their reviews to anyone looking for an honest opinion from a group of experienced commentators on the videogame world.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 3:39PM (Unverified) said

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I couldn't disagree with Anticrawl more. While Jeff clearly has his likes and dislikes, he is completely upfront about them. He tells you what he truly thinks and feels about a game, as do the other editors of the site.

He doesn't have some kind of crazy, fanboy agenda like you are implying. Jeff Gerstmann is as genuine as they come as far as I'm concerned. It's completely OK to disagree with his opinions on certain games, because as he himself I'm sure would tell you, everyone has the right to judge things according to their own experience. I know one thing - I respect all of the editorial staff over at the GiantBomb and recommend their reviews to anyone looking for an honest opinion from a group of experienced commentators on the videogame world.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 3:38PM Wubbytoes said

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Giant bomb is really awesome so far, really, everyone should check it out.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 3:40PM (Unverified) said

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As long as there are video reviews.

I would like to HEAR AN HONEST OPINION,Did you hear that GAMESPOT?! (And IGN)
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 4:25PM (Unverified) said

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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 4:29PM Seroth said

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It helps that their podcast is awesome and hilarious. Honestly, the Giant Bomb will still be awesome if all it had was that podcast.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 4:32PM CB said

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The site looks like it's coming along great.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 4:52PM (Unverified) said

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I love the bomb, great site, great reviews, and most of all, great personality. I like Giant Bomb for the same reason i like Joystiq, everything they do seeps personality. It doesn't seem like some robot giving you a text printout of a review, it feels more like a person.
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 5:12PM (Unverified) said

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Giant Bomb is the law!

Best editors, best reviews full stop!

Bring on the Bomb :o)
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Posted: Jul 25th 2008 11:57PM (Unverified) said

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its a great website beyong expectations, i left gs after the affair and this fainally gives me a game website that isn't just videos (GT) make sure to check it out guys
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 5:24PM (Unverified) said

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Giant Bomb = Awesome
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 5:34PM Jacksons said

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I like the podcast, and spent quite a bit of time browsing the encyclopedia. It's pretty slick!
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Posted: Jul 23rd 2008 7:35PM (Unverified) said

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Jeff is in no way a fanboy. I've listened to every podcast and learned so much about, not only Jeff, but about the crew. His reviewes are notorious, but he's just another dude with an opinion.
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Posted: Jul 24th 2008 2:57AM (Unverified) said

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Has Gerstmann had anything to say about where his content came from?
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