Kaz Hirai, Sony Computer Entertainment's "Big Boss," tells MCV that the company is taking its sweet time to make Home. Hirai explains that if Home is good, it won't matter when it launches, "so long as it's in a reasonable time frame." By our estimates, "reasonable time frame" left a while ago on a trip around the world and, if we think in a circular fashion, should bang back around sometime soon.
Hirai goes on to say that if the competitors decide to follow what the company is doing with Home, it would be their prerogative -- we're sure Linden Labs is thinking the same thing about Home. Anyway, Hirai is "confident" that the Home open beat is something that'll "resonate" with consumers.
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Posted: Jul 24th 2008 12:20PM (Unverified) said
Who cares about Home and why? And yes that is a very serious question that Id like answered?
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Posted: Jul 24th 2008 12:30PM MarkezJM said
Duh. It's a virtual courtyard where people stand around and look at advertisements, just look at the picture.
Maybe since the PS3 will have a 10 year life cycle this means they'll have it in year 5 or 6? Ziiiiiiiing! Sorry, couldn't resist the cheap potshot.
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Maybe since the PS3 will have a 10 year life cycle this means they'll have it in year 5 or 6? Ziiiiiiiing! Sorry, couldn't resist the cheap potshot.
Posted: Jul 24th 2008 1:14PM BananaBoat said
Home will come out after the announcement of the PS4, and the second generation version of home (scheduled to release alongside the PS5)
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Posted: Jul 24th 2008 1:38PM Korova Pamplona said
Because otherwise all those PS3 owners would be homeless. Sony is just trying to shelter, feed and clothes its peoples.
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Posted: Jul 24th 2008 2:08PM Kodros said
Here's why I care about and like the idea of Home. You log in, find a group of players standing around. It seems that they are looking for more people to play Warhawk. So you join them. You start up a game of Warhawk directly from Home which in turn creates a server just for you and the people in your party.
You play a few rounds, have some fun. But now a few of the people in the party don't feel like playing Warhawk anymore, so you all exit back to Home. You then chat about what game we should play next. They decide on Motorstorm. So, they start the game right from Home which will drop you in your own Motorstorm server that just has the people in your party.
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You play a few rounds, have some fun. But now a few of the people in the party don't feel like playing Warhawk anymore, so you all exit back to Home. You then chat about what game we should play next. They decide on Motorstorm. So, they start the game right from Home which will drop you in your own Motorstorm server that just has the people in your party.
Posted: Jul 24th 2008 2:29PM BananaBoat said
I don't see how that's different than loading warhawk, refreshing the server list, and joining the fullest room with the lowest ping. After that's over, you load Motorstorm, and play that. It's not as if all the people you meet in Home are magically going to own every single PS3 game that you do, and be willing to switch between games whenever you feel like it.
In that respect, home is a very poor substitute for making real, living friends that own PS3's, that will play games with you. If I'm going to play with strangers, I could care less if I meet those strangers in avatar form, or in-game.
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In that respect, home is a very poor substitute for making real, living friends that own PS3's, that will play games with you. If I'm going to play with strangers, I could care less if I meet those strangers in avatar form, or in-game.
Posted: Jul 24th 2008 2:35PM rsmith4321 said
Yea, what he is describing is called Xbox Live, except you don't have to use a stupid Avatar, well you will soon I guess.
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Posted: Jul 24th 2008 3:25PM (Unverified) said
Because I'm cold....and there's wolves after me. (distant howl)
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Posted: Jul 24th 2008 3:52PM Kodros said
"It's not as if all the people you meet in Home are magically going to own every single PS3 game that you do"
You're absolutely right. But it's a hell of a lot easier to meet people that you like and have the same taste in games using Home then the current method of making friends online.
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You're absolutely right. But it's a hell of a lot easier to meet people that you like and have the same taste in games using Home then the current method of making friends online.
Posted: Jul 24th 2008 4:08PM (Unverified) said
Your question is silly, do you ask the same of Menu?
Think of Home like a game, it's as valid as a home in GTA. It's something to play with and something to play in.
Think Menu to the Nth degree.
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Think of Home like a game, it's as valid as a home in GTA. It's something to play with and something to play in.
Think Menu to the Nth degree.
Posted: Jul 24th 2008 3:27PM (Unverified) said
So what you're saying is that Sony (like Tom Cruise) shouldn't come out of the closet?
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Posted: Jul 24th 2008 12:24PM (Unverified) said
My guess is hes thinking --"Why bother releasing it when you can milk it at another E3 or two?"
Ugh...I'm really starting to hate this waiting game.
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Ugh...I'm really starting to hate this waiting game.
Posted: Jul 24th 2008 12:25PM John Z said
Good luck with that.
I mean it. Home is an interesting concept, even though I riff on it once in a while, and I'm interested to see how it turns out. I certainly am not silly enough to declare it a reason to have a PS3, but neither am I willing to say its delay is a reason NOT to have it. And neither do I expect to sink hours upon hours into it. It's just, well, there. (Well, not yet. I could make the inevitable "are we there yet?" gag but I don't want to piss off any more people than I already am.)
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I mean it. Home is an interesting concept, even though I riff on it once in a while, and I'm interested to see how it turns out. I certainly am not silly enough to declare it a reason to have a PS3, but neither am I willing to say its delay is a reason NOT to have it. And neither do I expect to sink hours upon hours into it. It's just, well, there. (Well, not yet. I could make the inevitable "are we there yet?" gag but I don't want to piss off any more people than I already am.)
Posted: Jul 24th 2008 3:35PM (Unverified) said
If you've ever played an MMO that is attractive to kids, you'll realize why Home may end up a good reason not to own a ps3.
You can say the same for people that play xbox live. If someone said to me "Hey, i want a xbox 360 but i don't want to deal with the idiots online." I would partially agree (only partially because you can ignore people that aren't friends...but that sucks and shouldn't be necessary.)
One day people are going to say "I want a PS3 but god, i don't want to deal with the idiots on Home," and I'll nod my head and agree.
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You can say the same for people that play xbox live. If someone said to me "Hey, i want a xbox 360 but i don't want to deal with the idiots online." I would partially agree (only partially because you can ignore people that aren't friends...but that sucks and shouldn't be necessary.)
One day people are going to say "I want a PS3 but god, i don't want to deal with the idiots on Home," and I'll nod my head and agree.
Posted: Jul 24th 2008 6:11PM Kodros said
"you'll realize why Home may end up a good reason not to own a ps3. "
Yeah, that makes sense...not buy a console because of its optional software that won't affect your gaming experience if you choose not to use it. I guess Folding@Home is another good reason to not own a PS3 also right?
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Yeah, that makes sense...not buy a console because of its optional software that won't affect your gaming experience if you choose not to use it. I guess Folding@Home is another good reason to not own a PS3 also right?
Posted: Jul 24th 2008 12:31PM (Unverified) said
Not rushing Home? Wow...what a statement of the BLATANTLY obvious Ken.
I still am excited for Home and the fall open beta. When they revealed Home, they thought they knew what they were doing...having no idea how MASSIVE a project this really is. I still do believe that Home will be a Huge success and that every console next generation will have a ripoff of Home.
Community is the future of online gaming.
Now Sony....git er dun.
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I still am excited for Home and the fall open beta. When they revealed Home, they thought they knew what they were doing...having no idea how MASSIVE a project this really is. I still do believe that Home will be a Huge success and that every console next generation will have a ripoff of Home.
Community is the future of online gaming.
Now Sony....git er dun.
Posted: Jul 24th 2008 1:01PM Duke said
Personally, I don't think that it will have that big of an impact on consoles as a whole. From what I have seen, it will be a diversion for some people, but not likely something that they will spend a lot of time using. That being said, they did say they wanted to place some nice features in it (like the trophies and war rooms), which should add some reason for people to give it a go.
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Posted: Jul 24th 2008 1:28PM Snowblind said
I personally don't see this as being all that big. Community is one thing, but as the above poster said, this feels like more of a diversion. Xbox Live allows you to easily chat with other members, either text or voice based, and you can even use Windows Live Messenger (MSN). And you can do all that WHILE playing games. In my opinion, that's more than enough, I don't really see the need to do that in a 3D environment, it seems like it will be there as a distraction, rather than providing any sort of useful features. I'd rather be able to do things like chat, and check my email quickly, rather than going through this whole virtual environment.
I'll no doubt use it a couple of times.. but I imagine the novelty will wear off very quick. This is basically just Second Life, or Habbo Hotel. I wouldn't call it anything new, or revolutionary, and I very much doubt we'll see Microsoft copying it anytime soon. Their current system works fine, and with the avatars it makes it at least a little more personal, instead of just talking to a generic picture. And I certainly don't see Nintendo going for something like this.
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I'll no doubt use it a couple of times.. but I imagine the novelty will wear off very quick. This is basically just Second Life, or Habbo Hotel. I wouldn't call it anything new, or revolutionary, and I very much doubt we'll see Microsoft copying it anytime soon. Their current system works fine, and with the avatars it makes it at least a little more personal, instead of just talking to a generic picture. And I certainly don't see Nintendo going for something like this.
Posted: Jul 25th 2008 9:52AM jumpshot said
I have no problem with people innovating and trying to find new ways to bring a gaming community together. I just haven't seen anything about Home that will help much in that regard. It's neat, it's a novel concept, but only time and effort will tell if it has any wings.
Hey Duke, just wonderin', didn't you used to be NATO_Duke? Why the change?
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Hey Duke, just wonderin', didn't you used to be NATO_Duke? Why the change?
Posted: Jul 26th 2008 8:12PM (Unverified) said
I seriously wish I could have voted you all the way down for continuing touse that stupid Larry the Cable Guy catchphrase that was never funny to begin with.
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Posted: Jul 24th 2008 12:36PM seishino said
Home could have been system-selling two years ago. Last year it would have been highly relevant. Beta this year? Interesting.
Basically, Home was Sony's answer to integrated and polished Xbox live. It kind of looks like Microsoft's answer to Home might ship before Home does.
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Basically, Home was Sony's answer to integrated and polished Xbox live. It kind of looks like Microsoft's answer to Home might ship before Home does.
Posted: Jul 24th 2008 1:25PM (Unverified) said
Yeah Im def more excited to play around with the new xbox dash then this third life shit.
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Posted: Jul 24th 2008 3:33PM (Unverified) said
@deaftly
who are you kidding; you more excited about bashing sony.
With HOME sony is trying to bring the sims element into the PS3.
also for those that dont know... MS Charges you for live; SONY DOES NoT. How can you expect something that is basically free to have the same standards as something that cost your parents 50 bones?!? in 4 years thats $200 on top of your parents ISP.
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who are you kidding; you more excited about bashing sony.
With HOME sony is trying to bring the sims element into the PS3.
also for those that dont know... MS Charges you for live; SONY DOES NoT. How can you expect something that is basically free to have the same standards as something that cost your parents 50 bones?!? in 4 years thats $200 on top of your parents ISP.
Posted: Jul 24th 2008 4:01PM (Unverified) said
@ naxe
I doubt any of this will be very relevant in four years and that was a bit of a stretch with the $200 over 4 years example. (7.3 cents a day) If you don't want to pay for XBL or prefer Home, that's totally cool. Just keep in mind that the odds are that it will be more of an interactive commercial and product placement vehicle than anything else. I seriously doubt Sony is investing all the time and assets for "free."
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I doubt any of this will be very relevant in four years and that was a bit of a stretch with the $200 over 4 years example. (7.3 cents a day) If you don't want to pay for XBL or prefer Home, that's totally cool. Just keep in mind that the odds are that it will be more of an interactive commercial and product placement vehicle than anything else. I seriously doubt Sony is investing all the time and assets for "free."
Posted: Jul 24th 2008 5:03PM Duke said
"also for those that dont know... MS Charges you for live; SONY DOES NoT. How can you expect something that is basically free to have the same standards as something that cost your parents 50 bones?!? in 4 years thats $200 on top of your parents ISP."
You know, its cute how you need to say parents mutiple times to belittle people. Yes, we are all little children. Thanks for babysitting us.
Btw, you posted this in a previous thread and I never got a chance to respond:
"hey Nato_Duke you know as well as i do that ms is all about money and bullying smaller companies. Shit thats how they were concieved; Throwing bags of money to devs. for exclusive this and DLC that. ive yet to see what makes your GTAIV so much better than mine. but thats old news. I dont have a problem with FF screwing over its loyal fans but i do have a problem with people pointing the finger at sony. how is this sony's fault? how did they drop the ball? Its called bribery.
Like it's been said before MONEY TALKS and BS WALKS. i dont see how this one game can be the death of sony but if it makes you feel better to say it then go ahead. Most of you are full of &hit anyway, "now i have no reason to buy a ps3" like MGS4 doesnt have more appeal than FF. GET the ^uck out of here. RPG's are a japanese thing. FFXIII isnt a FPS you guys do know that right? "
Here is my response: You're a moron.
I never said one version of GTA was better than another. Lie much?
I also never said I didn't have a reason to buy a PS3 now, I already have one you tool! Using quotes for something I didn't say - that takes being a real prick! Also, what is with you talking about fault with Sony? Who cares if it is or isn't their fault, it husts them to lose an exclusive - no matter what one lame fanboy like you says. Money lost hurts companies.
As always, you talk down to us like you have a damn clue who the hell we are. Shove it. I know wtf FF is, and have played them for a long time now, so save the holier than thou shit for someone else. Crawl back into your hole and continue typing M$ for giggles and saying the 360 is only for FPS like the twit you are.
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You know, its cute how you need to say parents mutiple times to belittle people. Yes, we are all little children. Thanks for babysitting us.
Btw, you posted this in a previous thread and I never got a chance to respond:
"hey Nato_Duke you know as well as i do that ms is all about money and bullying smaller companies. Shit thats how they were concieved; Throwing bags of money to devs. for exclusive this and DLC that. ive yet to see what makes your GTAIV so much better than mine. but thats old news. I dont have a problem with FF screwing over its loyal fans but i do have a problem with people pointing the finger at sony. how is this sony's fault? how did they drop the ball? Its called bribery.
Like it's been said before MONEY TALKS and BS WALKS. i dont see how this one game can be the death of sony but if it makes you feel better to say it then go ahead. Most of you are full of &hit anyway, "now i have no reason to buy a ps3" like MGS4 doesnt have more appeal than FF. GET the ^uck out of here. RPG's are a japanese thing. FFXIII isnt a FPS you guys do know that right? "
Here is my response: You're a moron.
I never said one version of GTA was better than another. Lie much?
I also never said I didn't have a reason to buy a PS3 now, I already have one you tool! Using quotes for something I didn't say - that takes being a real prick! Also, what is with you talking about fault with Sony? Who cares if it is or isn't their fault, it husts them to lose an exclusive - no matter what one lame fanboy like you says. Money lost hurts companies.
As always, you talk down to us like you have a damn clue who the hell we are. Shove it. I know wtf FF is, and have played them for a long time now, so save the holier than thou shit for someone else. Crawl back into your hole and continue typing M$ for giggles and saying the 360 is only for FPS like the twit you are.
Posted: Jul 24th 2008 12:37PM (Unverified) said
Oh yay a 3D version of Habbo Hotel with less people and more advertisements.
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Posted: Jul 24th 2008 12:37PM (Unverified) said
I'm sure like the majority of users I will download it and have a gander. If it's good and useful then I will use it, if not then I will just leave it be and assume it will become useful at some point.
It's free, there's no shortage of HDD space and so it's no skin off my nose if it sinks or swims.
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It's free, there's no shortage of HDD space and so it's no skin off my nose if it sinks or swims.
Posted: Jul 24th 2008 12:45PM (Unverified) said
maybe it will make it into ps4...lol doesn't home look exactly like second life
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Posted: Jul 24th 2008 12:51PM BlackIceJoe said
I am so glad that Sony is taking there time with Home. Because let me say I am in the Beta and well there is nothing to do in it. All it feels like is a hub with no thing to do you have the theater which no one uses because there are big tvs out side that show the same trailers. I still have not felt a reason to make my Home. I have nothing in it. Because I just do not feel like I need to do it.
So to me this is good news. Because if Sony was to launch it today so many people would be like why waste on Home at all. But I will say there are some really cool things Sony is working on for Home but I can't say because of an NDA. But I will say this if Sony can add them in without making it feel rushed thoughs features will be great.
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So to me this is good news. Because if Sony was to launch it today so many people would be like why waste on Home at all. But I will say there are some really cool things Sony is working on for Home but I can't say because of an NDA. But I will say this if Sony can add them in without making it feel rushed thoughs features will be great.
Posted: Jul 24th 2008 12:52PM (Unverified) said
Home is starting to sound like the next Duke Nukem Forever.
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Posted: Jul 24th 2008 1:09PM (Unverified) said
An ex-Sony creative designer wrote an article for us on this:
http://www.gamestooge.com/2008/07/15/microsoft-on-the-move-while-sony-continues-to-flounder/
From the article:
"Having worked at Sony as a Creative Designer two years ago, it doesn’t surprise me that they have still yet to release Home. While there, I was working on their Station Launcher application which was supposed to be released in late 2006. However, the Launcher app is still only in Beta to this day. The problem for Sony is that they simply aren’t a very good software company and in today’s world of software driven products, they are getting their clocks cleaned by Microsoft."
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http://www.gamestooge.com/2008/07/15/microsoft-on-the-move-while-sony-continues-to-flounder/
From the article:
"Having worked at Sony as a Creative Designer two years ago, it doesn’t surprise me that they have still yet to release Home. While there, I was working on their Station Launcher application which was supposed to be released in late 2006. However, the Launcher app is still only in Beta to this day. The problem for Sony is that they simply aren’t a very good software company and in today’s world of software driven products, they are getting their clocks cleaned by Microsoft."
Posted: Jul 24th 2008 3:31PM (Unverified) said
gmail is a service, not software.
The software they created was GoogleEarth, and yeah they did well, but man... what a horrible comparison.
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The software they created was GoogleEarth, and yeah they did well, but man... what a horrible comparison.
Posted: Jul 24th 2008 3:40PM (Unverified) said
Krodos...playing dumb to prove a point is not profitable to your argument. Why don't you try being intelligent. Give it a try sometime. If it doesn't work out for you I guess you can return to form.
Seriously, comparing Gmail with Home is the dumbest thing I read on the internet today.
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Seriously, comparing Gmail with Home is the dumbest thing I read on the internet today.
Posted: Jul 24th 2008 4:03PM Kodros said
I didn't compare Home with GMail. I compared Sony's ability to make software to Google's ability to make software. I see GMail as software, at least on the their end. Their GMail specific code is still being tested. We can use GTalk if you want, that's Google software that's been in beta for years also.
How about you call out the dumb comparison of two different Sony Departments making two completely different types of software that the dude in the article is making.
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How about you call out the dumb comparison of two different Sony Departments making two completely different types of software that the dude in the article is making.
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