Ubisoft director: Red Steel 2 to support Wii MotionPlus

hopefully this will make techniques easier to pull off too. My wii couldnt tell what I was doing with the wiimote very accurately. Also, I don't know about everyone else, but my aiming reticule also centered itself every once in a while, so I hope they have handled aiming better. I won't put up with the crappy gun combat just to get to more accurate swordplay

People who hated the game either didn't play it or didn't give it a chance.

Then again, a game shouldn't require playing for four hours into it for things to really get going.

This was the first game I played on the Wii. Yeah the graphics weren't pretty but it was an okay game. I never bought it though. Hopefully the second one is good.

Well, great! This translates to: it might not actually mean that much to gameplay, since Ubi can't really count on a customer having 'MotionPlus.'

I have mixed feelings on this...

Will it support not sucking?

Red Steel was the first game I ever gave away. Ever. The chances of me suffering sufficient brain damage, to actually want to play RS2, are minimal.

I enjoyed the original, and felt that the graphics were far from universally bad. It felt like they focused on making certain rooms/arenas shine, and then left everything else in the game go to pot, and the only time the controls ever went crazy on me was in the transition from Sword mode back to shoot mode, where my guy would spin around in circles for 30 seconds before i could regain control

The general education of Wii developers, as well as MotionPlus, should make the next one worthwhile

Wait a second! Whatever happened to the, "We play tested one-to-one and found it was too difficult for the average gamer" line?

The first red steel was a lot better than everyone gave it credit for. It was the first game to try to use the wiimote for FPS control, so it obviously wasn't optimised... but it was far from horrible.

(go back to a few of the early analogue console FPS games and you'll find their controls were terrible, it took a long time for devs to figure out how to get them right).

Heck, Red Steel gets major bonus points simply for not being a sci-fi / ww2 / modern combat setting. Its a great setting for a game, i don't know why more devs don't use it.

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As for 1:1 swings... it can't EVER work, so i don't know why people keep expecting it. 1:1 swing is great until your in-game blade is blocked... but your wiimote keeps swinging... then you are all out of sync.

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I for one am really glad RS2 is in the works.. I was worried it'd get canned after so many people bitched about the first one. A more polished and slightly graphically updated game, with Metroid Prime 3 controls, and I'd be more than happy.

Will the Wii Motion Plus make me understand why I choose to fight with a sword when I have a gun in my pocket?

I didn't know Spock was in Red Steel 2. Dude is sporting some crazy gang tats.

Ok, now add online multiplayer support, fix the aiming, and we might have an actual game on our hands. I remember actually having fun with the original's local multiplayer because it reminded me of Goldeneye... although the only reason it reminded me of Goldeneye was that certain things felt less responsive than they should have been, but when you're playing with the right people it was pretty fun.

I'm probably going to get downvoted for this, but I still think that, aside from the swordfighting and sniper rifle, Red Steel 1 still has by far the best controls of any Wii FPS - *including* Metroid Prime 3.

(The problem with Metroid Prime 3's controls were 1. Lock-on systems are great for when you *lack* an actual pointing device like with the GC controller, but *with* a pointing like the Wiimote it *really* gets in the way, and 2. The only sensitivity settings are "insanely insensitive", "still not nearly sensitive enough", and "dammit, I can't keep this stupid screen still")

Well, ok, so Red Steel is really tied for "best Wii FPS controls" with Call of Duty, but unlike Call of Duty it's based on a theme that shows more originality than "Hey, let's make another War-themed FPS!". (Not that "Japan" is a highly creative theme, but it's still one hell of an improvement.)

Plus, I ended up getting used to the sword stuff. Sure it's not remotely what was promised, and it could have been more accurate using button presses, but it really wasn't all that bad one I got used too it. As for "why not just shoot them"? Who cares? You've played games like Mario or Doom 1&2, haven't you? How realistic are those?

The voice acting is bad, but that's true of a lot of games, and why the hell are you paying that much attention to cutscenes in a *videogame*, anyway?

The cutscenes are unskippable - and that is a major problem - but there's a hell of a lot of other games with unskippable cutscenes that people don't complain so much about.

Also related to cutscenes, a lot of people have complained about the sort-of-like-Max-Payne-but-not-quite cutscenes. Sure, they're not *as good* as the ones in Max Payne, but at least they show a hell of a lot more originality than all those millions of games that just use in-engine scripting.

Here's my concern though: When they say Red Steel 2 will "support" the Wii MotionPlus, do they really mean that the game just *put up with* the thing being attached and not complain "that's not supported, unplug it"? Or maybe do they mean "It's still going to be gesture based, we'll just take the extra data into account into the gesture processing"?

Hopefully without rushed development and with everything we've come to know about Wii FPS controls, Ubisoft can make this a good game. It certainly has potential. I'll be keeping an eye on it. Of course, I'll be sure to read several reviews before I decide to purchase. I did that with the first one, and from what I've heard it's a good thing I did.

Maybe it won't suck so bad this time. Swordfights were awful in the first one.

Red Steel was a terrible game.

The controls did NOT work, to this day, the aiming reticle jumps around making it near impossible to shoot anything. The game rarely registered my "sword technique" inputs, making boss battles near impossible. And no, this has nothing to do with my setup because this does NOT happen with any other good Wii titles that I've played (i.e. Boom Blox, Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, Metroid Prime 3, Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles, etc...)

Plus, it didn't help that both Ubisoft and Nintendo hyped Red Steel up so much. It's hard to take either companies hype seriously after games like this. Which might be why we don't here much about Red Steel 2 (unless it's still over a year away.)

I will not be buying Red Steel 2. In fact, aside from maybe the new Rabbids game that uses the balance board (gotta get some use out of that accessory!), I will not be buying anymore Ubisoft games for the Wii.

So, it's a sequel to a dreadful Wii game with added features (see: motion control that doesn't suck) that it should have had right out of the box.
It's like dropping a steak in the toilet, pouring some A-1 on it and saying "Eat this now, it's way better!"