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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 6:50PM Nick the Hero of Canton said

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Initial reaction: I SPENT 10 FUCKING DOLLARS ON THIS.

Then the logical and reasonable side of brain stepped in and told me that I can't afford a computer capable of playing Mass Effect anyway.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 7:11PM Colonel Falafel said

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Yes you can. In fact, I'd wager that the price to upgrade your current computer would be about the same, if not less than, a 360 or PS3
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 7:16PM Eugimon said

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Really? Please, point me to the upgrades I can purchase for my laptop.

dumbass.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 7:25PM Saria the Cat said

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WHOA, my laptop would probably burn a hole through the table!
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 7:46PM (Unverified) said

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@ eugene

You would've made a fine point if you didn't decide become a childish asshole at the very end.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 7:49PM Eugimon said

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@Jakka

True, I was a childish asshole at the end, but I guess it's better then your schtick of being a childish asshole from the very start. With me, it's like, "surprise! childish asshole humor!" but with you, it's just, "meh, childish asshole."
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 8:02PM (Unverified) said

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i bought a quad core with a geforce 8500 for $500 and then upgraded to 8800 for another 100 a couple months later. i paid $450 for my xbox (granted it came with quake 4, gun, cod2, extra controller, play and charge @ sam's club bundle deal during launch) and $150 on xbox live.

so basically the PC that lets me play medieval total war, empire total war, non-watered down civ, cost the same so far :-)

Thankfully I never got the red ring stuff so I'm assuming that my xbox has a longer-than-3-year lifespan too (woo!!!)
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 8:28PM Haggard said

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Jeez Eugene, smoke a joint and listen to some Bob Marley or something.

PC gaming is cheaper than you'd think - a £2000 system necessary to run the latest games is an outright lie. Consider this - a PS3 costs £300, and a decent HDTV costs over £500. To get a killer gaming rig, you need only make a £300 upgrade to whatever PC you have at the moment, less if you already have a decent processor. Plus bear in mind that a PC game is £25 to a console's £40.

^I'm glad I have that ready to copy and paste everytime someone harps on about the PC being too expensive.

P.S. Unless you have a laptop.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 9:24PM Colonel Falafel said

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Eugene, I said "Computer," obviously not meaning laptop.

Way to be a douchenozzle, man.


Also: My computer cost me $600, and that was building it from scratch (didn't upgrade, just built anew). I could have made it cheaper by taking a hit in GPU or CPU (I have an 8800GT 512MB) and still run all modern and upcoming games fine.
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Posted: Jul 30th 2008 12:03AM engadgethead said

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A lot of people need good PCs at home for doing work on. An Xbox 360 doesn't really double as a tool ever.
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Posted: Jul 30th 2008 11:32AM (Unverified) said

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@Thatoneguy64

First of all, laptops are computers. More importantly, how can you have no trouble playing upcoming games when they aren't even out yet?
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 6:50PM Ricky Bango said

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Oh, and also how much better it looks and plays.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 10:50PM (Unverified) said

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Wow who can confuse a computer with a laptop? it's not like they're both computers....OH WAIT!!!
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 6:58PM (Unverified) said

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lol @ "frequent upgrading"
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 7:06PM Lorben said

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Swapping out parts every 3 years is frequent for console-only people. They're on a 10 year plan!
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 6:54PM (Unverified) said

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Only on Xbox 360.

Until 6 months later where it's $10 cheaper,free DLC,more content,plays smoother and has less bugs.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 8:30PM Haggard said

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As a PC gamer I'd love to agree with you, sadly the PC version has a lot of bugs. Bizarrely the free DLC came with a patch that fixed minor issues and left the major ones intact.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 10:25PM (Unverified) said

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And also, inexplicably, has terrible, terrible DRM.
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Posted: Jul 30th 2008 10:48AM arrrgh said

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drm ftl. PC version is every bit as buggy as the 360 but with some of its own. Damned if you do damned if you don't.

Choose your poison, but it's still a damn incredible game in the end
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 6:58PM Vcize said

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Lol, nicely done on the picture.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 6:59PM imurray said

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Urge to kill - RISING.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 7:13PM ForTheHuynh said

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That's got to be at least 2nd level Pun Hell.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 8:03PM ForTheHuynh said

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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 8:55PM Hyams said

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Squidi = win.

Shame he abandoned his comics. =(
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 7:28PM oteriba said

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Downloading now. Thanks for the heads up.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 7:41PM Chrisness said

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This just proves PC gaming > console gaming. ALL games are cheaper, have better graphics and higher resolution, better online play 90% of the time. Ventrilo (this advantage will be killed with mass player private chat). And keyboard + mouse is > controller for everything but driving vehicles. Plus it's nice to alt tab and have the whole internet.

The only thing that consoles have that PCs don't is matchmaking which is good for clan matches so you face equally skilled teams.

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Posted: Jul 30th 2008 2:31PM Bigboss815 said

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...Ehhh When it comes to PC v.s console Yes PC "Can" have better graphics but often times the consoles still have visual settings similar to the max setting of the pc version of said game. Resolution yes PC is often better...now to the issue of controls. Keyboard and Mouse...is incredibly overrated. I have used both gamepad and keyboad and mouse and honestly...they both do their job and I don't really enjoy one over the other...the only game series I prefer to play with keyboard and mouse would be the Half Life series and even then they still play pretty well on the console. So how about we leave at this PC gaming=Console gaming
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 7:39PM Dextro said

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And then you remember all the Mass Effect copy-protection woes and you realize that not even freebies will restore faith in the developer/distributor...
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 11:13PM 007craft said

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Building a gaming pc is around $600 and requires knowledge of how to build it (otherwise $1000 for a pre-built system). Then thats only to play the game, medium settings and medium resolution. If you want the high resolution on max settigns (ie, looking as good as a console game) your gonna need a better video card then the one you picked up for $150 off craigslist. So I would say around $1000 building the computer yourself to truly run it all just like the consoles. Not that expensive, but a farcry away from a $299 console.

Personally I own an xbox (cause i like gaming on the couch without framerate dips and crap depnding if other stuff is going on in the background of my computer). mandatory voice chat and the whole friends list also makes multiplayer gaming easier and more social. I also own a pc however. I paid around $650 for everything brand new and built it up. But its running integrated graphics so I dont really play games on it. Ill pick up a card for spore tho. I use it as a media machine mostly.

The point im trying to make is pc gaming does not = console gaming in terms of price, like so many people seem to think.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 7:44PM (Unverified) said

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Wait wait im trying to figure out the pun >
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 8:34PM Zoot Suit Jedi Grammar Hammer En said

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Asari = Sorry. Like Asari if you were only joking about not getting the pun.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 7:42PM (Unverified) said

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Not in before the PC elitists :(
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 7:53PM Vcize said

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Nice.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 7:56PM Haon said

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Dammit just bought the 360 version yesterday. Oh well.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 8:06PM whatthegeek said

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't MS come out and say no content that's free on other platforms shall be charged for on XBLM? In fact, didn't they say it in january / february of 2006? In fact, didn't major nelson have someone from $A on a podcast where they discussed exactly that???
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 8:08PM whatthegeek said

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Err - $A = EA
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 8:36PM Haggard said

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Microsoft say a lot of things. All companies do.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 8:46PM (Unverified) said

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So this will be free on the 360 soon, then? Or will MS just keep lying? Funny how Sony is always called 'arrogant' - don't see them charging you just to go online, announcing features like Netflix only to find out it's only if you pay for BOTH services, and screwing their own console base like this.

I'd kind of like to play the extra content but if I remember correctly it's not available if you beat the game, and hell if I want to play Mass Effect again. Decent game but not worth a second play - I spanked it by doing all the side quests and ended up with too powerful weapons about halfway through.
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Posted: Jul 30th 2008 1:00PM (Unverified) said

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Sorry "Ass" but arrogance and lying are two very different things.

Charging people for things and lying does not equal arrogance.

Arrogance is sitting there doing very little for your fans, thinking you own the place and can't be taken down (like sony were doing for about, what, 5 years until about 2 weeks ago?)

Also, why are you surprised that you have to pay for netflix AND live? They are two difference services that have partnered.

Mass effect is too easy is it? Then put the difficulty up, moron. Because it's obvious you weren't playing on insane.

I'm done here.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 9:09PM (Unverified) said

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Fuck Mass Effect. I eagerly installed this game and played through a good portion of the intro (just got out of that initial spaceship), only to have my character get stuck in an elevator and my latest (and consequently ONLY) auto-save spot become corrupted.

Result: This game promptly went back on Ebay. No thank you...
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 9:55PM (Unverified) said

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Tough luck, but that's BioWare for you. I'm relatively convinced they don't even test their games before release - I mean, sure all PC games have bugs, but most console games have extremely few - unless developed by BioWare.
Way back in the day, I was hugely disappointed by Baldur's Gate II, then I was hugely disappointed by KotOR, then I gave up on that company as a topic on whome I and game reviewers clearly disagree.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 9:56PM (Unverified) said

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"on which"*, not "on whom" spelled incorrectly.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 11:20PM (Unverified) said

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Honestly, I didn't encounter significant bugs in KOTOR or Mass Effect-- both of which I've played at least a couple of times on multiple PC rigs.

Every PC game has a million bugs, refuses to even start, has unbelievably draconian DRM, kills your grandma, etc if you listen to the people bitching on forums. The majority of people, who have a stable, enjoyable experiences, don't need to whine.
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Posted: Jul 30th 2008 12:24AM BigD145 said

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The bugs didn't bother me much. The item interface did. I can throw away brand new and better weapons I just picked up off dead bodies but I can't toss old gear in order to replace it with same new gear? WHAT?!
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 9:19PM Psychoplasm said

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what a kick to the nuts.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 9:56PM WiNGSPANTT from TopTierTacticsco said

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Every time this happens, it makes my $300 gaming PC upgrades seem worthwhile.

Plus a fast computer is pretty nice for general use.

Plus, mods.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 11:05PM (Unverified) said

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I haven't upgraded my proc or graphics card in over 2 years, my comp easily cost less than a PS3 and plays all modern games quite well.

I'm so tired of people propagating this bullshit about how insanely expensive PC gaming is. -_- And it constantly comes out of Joystiq writers, yawn.
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Posted: Jul 30th 2008 1:53AM Ninegauger said

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I'm more interested in seeing if there are going to be anymore of these packs... I mean, I doubt releasing stuff during the holiday rush is a great idea with so many games coming out all at once.

Is this all that we're getting as far as DLC is concerned?

How come Oblivion is still the only game that has consistently added new (single player) content? Oh well... I guess Fallout 3 is coming out soon and may do as well in that regard as Oblivion.
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Posted: Jul 31st 2008 5:26AM (Unverified) said

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I've mostly given up PC gaming for Xbox 360 - it's much more convenient. I can't be bothered with the hassle of PC gaming anymore - the installing, crashing, incompatibilities, frequent and expensive hardware upgrades, etc, etc. This free DLC for the PC verson possibly proves that they're losing PC customers. I'd much rather have free DLC for the 360 version too, but I'm sure I'm not missing much anyway.
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