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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 10:22AM (Unverified) said

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Colors is worth the price of a flash cart alone. I have spent dozens of hours with that piece of software.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 10:22AM (Unverified) said

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that and Animanitee
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 10:24AM (Unverified) said

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it was about time the consumer treated Nintendonald's like a big fat Swiss cow as well.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 10:45AM baby sea tuna said

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Leave and don't come back.

Seriously.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 10:50AM Supermanisdead said

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Why do you call it Nintendonalds? It doesn't even make sense.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 10:53AM Vegeta has a ps3 said

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@Superstar

Because he thinks it makes him look witty comparing Nintendo to Mcdonalds.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 11:30AM Vidikron said

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Well, as annoying as it maybe, the McDonalds comparison isn't entirely without merit. McDonald's rakes in lots of cash selling cheap food to the masses. The Wii rakes in lots of cash selling shallow/cheap games to the masses.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 11:34AM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, but McDonald's "high quality" menu items still taste like shit.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 12:08PM Zertoss said

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Would you like a preorder with that?

Oh wait. Wrong company.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 1:24PM Saria the Cat said

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@Vidikron: I highly doubt he thought that deeply about it before he coined it, though.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 5:36PM (Unverified) said

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@ baby sea tuna

I was crying from laughter for 5 minutes. Thank you.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 10:26AM (Unverified) said

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Hoho! Things are deffinetly about to get interesting now between N and the Flashcard makers.

On a side note, didn't the R4 factories close down quite a while ago anyway?
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 1:01PM (Unverified) said

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They did, that's why they are going against the retailers, as stated on the article right above the comment section...

"Nintendo has filed a lawsuit in Japan against five retailers"
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 1:09PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, the R4 factory got shut down but they found another one. Doesn't matter since the R4 is kinda old, and the DSTT is far better.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 1:32PM (Unverified) said

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Are you joking? Review after countless review proves that the DSTT is terrible. Slow, clunky, and bad. The R4/M3DSSimply is amazing, and has much higher compatibility than the DSTT. Now if you want to get in to better cards, CycloDS is a tad better than R4, with the latest cards like the EDGE and SuperCard DS One v3 being far superior.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 1:35PM (Unverified) said

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To further my point...
- 99.99% compatibility (Contra 4 fails to boot)
- No file browser
- No alphabetical sorting
- Saves don't have seperate folder
- Game list lags
- Doesn't support multiple skins
- GBA support isn't built into the OS
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 10:25AM (Unverified) said

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R4 owns
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 1:25PM Saria the Cat said

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"A NEW CHALLENGER IS APPROACHING"

CycloDS 4 Life!!!
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Posted: Jul 30th 2008 1:19AM LocalToast said

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Yeah, sorry dude, but at this point, the CycloDS Evolution has the most (working) features, which are all awesome.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 10:32AM monkeyssuck said

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I think just having one of these cartridges for homebrew is very worth it. There's always interesting stuff coming out from the homebrew community, and it also lets you try your hand at programming.

By the way, you guys forgot to plug the DS Fanboy's homebrew site so people can see which one is the best and order it. =D
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 10:35AM koehler83 said

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This suit will fail. The R4 is not a copyright circumvention device. It merely runs unsigned code. There is a HUGE difference between the two. Running unsigned code on hardware you own is perfectly legal. The R4 manufacturers cannot be held accountable for the actions of the end user and any competent judge would rule in their favour.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 11:31AM (Unverified) said

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Competency of this kind is passing rare these days.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 2:48PM (Unverified) said

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The suit certainly *should* fail for exactly the reasons you mentioned, but like Ayrkain alluded to, I have very little faith that that would actually happen.

Although, it's not as if I actually knew a damn thing about the Japanese legal system anyway. (Something tells me Phoenix Wright probably isn't a very accurate representation ;) )
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 10:41AM (Unverified) said

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Sweet I ordered my R4 about 4 days ago! Considering I never really play my DS I figured it was pointless to buy games for it.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 10:52AM MC Double Def DP said

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Did I hear you right? Did I hear you sayin' that you're gonna make a copy of a game without paying?
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 3:52PM In A World said

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"I never really play my DS I figured it was pointless to buy games for it"

Circular logic FTL. Did you ever stop to consider maybe the reason you don't play your DS is because you have no games for it? Way to go, Genius!
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 10:49AM Sarge said

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Do they even have the legal right to shut them down? It's not as if the retailers are supplying the ROMs, and as stated, the card has legitimate uses in homebrew. There's some really cool stuff out there, without even dabbling in commercial games. And the cards are cheap enough that you can get your money's worth out of them just from homebrew purposes.

Not sure this'll go anywhere. I personally hope not. I have an R4 and an Acekard 2, and they're really fun to play around with, not to mention giving the DS multimedia capabilities through Moonshell.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 11:01AM (Unverified) said

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Must order mine soon and stop putting it off.
One one for the misses.
And one for the kids.

:(
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 11:03AM Tez said

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Yeah, because this will stop piracy. Idiots.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 11:05AM mykalson said

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This is rather silly. Most of these flash cards are produced in China and distributed through Hong Kong, and will continue to be produced regardless of any lawsuit.

I can't imagine this lawsuit doing anything other than making it harder for them to be purchased at retail.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 11:22AM Jacksons said

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Yeah, I don't understand. They certainly aren't available at any retail store in my neck of the woods.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 11:17AM original fred said

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STOP BEING SUCH DICKS NINTENDO I WANT DO BREW STUUUUUUFF
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 11:20AM John Z said

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I'm just hoping I can get one myself. I can't remember, does "getting copies of GBA games you own onto a flash card for convenience" count as piracy? Am I going to Hell for not wanting to carry a ton of cartridges?
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 11:35AM Zertoss said

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That's what I use my EZFlash IV Lite for, plus it means I don't accidentally drop any of my carts and lose them forever, so if you're going to hell for that, I guess we'll both be seeing Nintendo's legal team there.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 11:37AM Sarge said

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You own the games, so no. Granted, under legal technicalities, the backups you use must be dumped from your personal cartridges, but there's nothing morally wrong about that at all.

Just because something is illegal doesn't make it morally wrong. And the flipside is true as well, just because something is legal does not make it morally right.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 9:15PM Deuce said

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Actually, downloading any game ROM or ISO not in the public domain is piracy, whether you own an original or not. The whole "Fair Use" argument applies solely to backup copies made by the owner of the original, which are expressly not for distribution to any other party, nor to be used on more than one machine. There is no "24-hour rule," contrary to what some would have you believe.

The only copyrighted ROMs you could legally possess would be ones you made yourself... and since making them requires gray-market technology, it's an iffy prospect, at best.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 11:32AM (Unverified) said

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Can the R4 do anything to change the button scheme for GBA games, like use Buttons "Y" and "B" instead of the default "A" and "B"? I tried to play Mario 3 last night, and it's too hard to run and jump.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 1:11PM (Unverified) said

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The R4 can't run GBA games, period.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 1:36PM (Unverified) said

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It can run them if you have an EZ Flash 3-in-1. It has support for it.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 11:35AM Emophia said

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I prefer teh M3 really, which is the exact same thing.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 11:44AM (Unverified) said

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cyclods ftw
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 1:32PM Saria the Cat said

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Hell yeah! What-what!
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 11:54AM xz87 said

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"Nintendo files lawsuit to curb DS homebrew"

Fix'd.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 2:56PM (Unverified) said

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Yea, seriously, do people *really* think that this is *only* done to thwart piracy? Nintendo's entire 3rd party business model is based around charging people for the privilege of making a game for Nintendo's system. If people are playing games that sidestepped that channel, then Nintendo isn't getting that money. So let's stop pretending that Nintendo actually agrees with our views that homebrew is better than piracy.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 12:08PM (Unverified) said

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Dear Nintendo,

While I respect your need to protect your patients and products with this lawsuit, may I ask you this - why on earth do you charge so much for games that are only up to 128MB big? Please bare in mind that there is currently a global credit crunch and not everyone can afford to pay your "recommended retail prices".

May I suggest that you introduce a downloadable games option for the DS, that way there would be less cartridges being produced, saving money, a saving that you could pass on to loyal fans.

Just a thought
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 1:09PM (Unverified) said

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Ummm...Nintendo makes a grip from each cartridge since it's their own proprietary format (like Sony memory sticks)...that's been their basic model since the NES days. You take that away, you take away 20-30% of their revenue or more.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 1:45PM Roto13 said

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1. DS games are the cheapest games on the market that aren't digitally distributed

2. The actual size of the game means nothing. The cost of creating a game comes from the amount of work put into it.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 12:48PM (Unverified) said

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Wow, pirates, how does it feel to be a fan of these companies, yet be disliked by them?
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 10:15PM Deuce said

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I think the companies would be happier (and better off) without those fans. It's not like they're making any money from the leechers.
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Posted: Jul 29th 2008 12:43PM Deuce said

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Let's not kid ourselves, here. Perhaps 5% (at most) of the purchasers of these devices are going to be using them to run homebrew software. The primary function of such gray-market items is piracy.
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