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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 8:40PM (Unverified) said

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She looks like a he.

Posted: Aug 6th 2008 8:42PM SheppyReturns said

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She looks like a real person... an everygirl you would see on the street. I suggest you take your eyes off your fapping material and look around and what people in europe look like when they don't have the benefit of airbrush...
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 9:12PM (Unverified) said

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The girl they used in the original trailer is actually an actress who's done a couple ALIEVE commercials. The bony face and everything? Thats actually pretty damn close to what she looks like. this was'nt just creating an actress from an inspiring real person, the pretty much just totally 3d scanned her.

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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 9:19PM jhowlett said

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i think its the short haircut and jaw line thats throwing some people, along with the years of androgenous (sp?) characters in video games. the cut is kinda girly but by todays standards is more gender neutral.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 11:29PM BananaBoat said

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Let's take a look at what the "Uncanny Valley" implies shall we. It's the theory that as you approach photo realism with CGI, the brain is always able to detect the subtle differences, and you'll hate the resulting image all the more because your brain is actively rejecting it as an imitation (yes, I know the theory predates CGI and was meant for robots etc, but for our purposes it means CGI). So the more life like a rendering looks, the more your brain says "NOT REAL!" and the worse the image looks to you. In other words, the argument that it's not subject to the uncanny valley, while at the same time arguing that it IS realistic and that it looks just like her, is contradictory and absurd.

My two cents? Uncanny Valley Ahoy Ahoy, sorry creators of Heavy Rain.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 8:38PM Hyams said

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Be sure you all view these pics in their glorius full size.

(right click -> view image; use the Ripten gallery)

Posted: Aug 7th 2008 8:14PM (Unverified) said

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"It's the theory that as you approach photo realism with CGI, the brain is always able to detect the subtle differences [... blah blah something made up about how brains work]"

As you attempt to make something more realistic, you end up tolerating deviations from "normal" less and less. That's basically it. There's no fundamental problem with CGI, just with CGI that isn't good enough.

Moving from the center of the uncanny valley means you're fixing some of those small deviations from the norm, which should make an image more acceptable. Whether that's happening here is your opinion, but whether it's possible isn't really the question.

Anyway, the Uncanny Valley is a hypothesis, not a theory. There's a big difference (mainly the fact that it hasn't really been tested/verified). Everyone seems to have an opinion about it, though, so it's kind of a folk-science thing now. Ah well.

Anyway, Joystiq = accurately describing untested hypothesis.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 8:40PM SheppyReturns said

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They normal mapped the eyes.....

Posted: Aug 6th 2008 8:40PM (Unverified) said

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Really looking forward to this game!
Hope it has an engaging story...

Posted: Aug 6th 2008 8:42PM Hyams said

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The entire game is about the story so ... yeah.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 10:56PM Vladeon said

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Sooo... you're saying it's not about nuclear water (which is water with an unusually large amount of deuterium in it) that turns everyone into flaming zombies that it touches? With you being this androgenous chick who needs to come to grips with taking out your husband that came home one night, filthy wet... wtih Hard Rain? And then, after you've killed your husband, the aliens come... Then it turns mostly into a mixture of M. Night Shyamalan's "Signs" and Miyamoto's "Mario Sunshine."
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 8:40PM Obienator said

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Looks nice, but is this game ever coming out? So far all I see is tech-demo stuff.

Posted: Aug 6th 2008 8:44PM Hyams said

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Only a handful of reporters have been shown an actual trailer.

These new screenshots are groundbreaking (as far as news goes) as its the first stuff we've actually seen from the game, as opposed from a tech demo.

Um, my guess is that Quantic Dream is getting ready to start showing off the game now. What's the next big gaming event/show? We'll probably see more there.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 8:56PM Obienator said

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Maybe Leipzig or Tokyo game show. I do like that the game seems to show real emotion, that is what sets the Half Life series apart...you actually care about the characters.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 8:44PM (Unverified) said

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the graphics look sick!!! if this is real gameplay images, this game is gonna own in the graphics department.. the current best looking game in any console is Uncharted or MGS4 but this will own them

Posted: Aug 6th 2008 8:46PM Mr B said

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all of a sudden, giant eyes flashed on my screen.
I was not prepared for that...

Posted: Aug 6th 2008 8:47PM (Unverified) said

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It's easily one of the best looking games I've ever seen, conosole or pc, but I'd kinda like to know what it's about and what we do in the game. Even a hint would be nice.

Posted: Aug 6th 2008 8:52PM Hyams said

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Posted: Aug 7th 2008 12:43AM (Unverified) said

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Typical tmac comment.
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Posted: Aug 7th 2008 1:01AM (Unverified) said

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That's it? That's all you have this time?? Dare I ask you to reach back into that empty space in your head and try to elaborate?
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 8:48PM (Unverified) said

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It's working title was "The Invasion of the Androgynous People."

Posted: Aug 6th 2008 8:51PM Hyams said

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Because all women in videogames need to have EE breasts?
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 9:05PM Geebs said

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Seriously. It's ridiculous that some people don't think she looks feminine enough.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 9:22PM original fred said

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No because generally people tend to look their gender.
Breasts have nothing to do with it and I find it odd you would even bring that up.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 9:29PM (Unverified) said

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"Because all women in videogames need to have EE breasts?"

No because she has a manly face. At least in that particular picture she does...
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 9:43PM Hyams said

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Really? I think her face looks plenty feminine.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 9:51PM Saria the Cat said

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To be honest she does look like she could go either way. It's tough to capture graphically the subtle features that would normally completely define a person's gender in real life.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 10:03PM jhowlett said

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having been mistaken for female because of my long hair and been witness to females with short hair mistaken for young men, i have to say that because humans are basically the same, hair styles can be confusing without well developed secondary sexual characteristics.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 10:23PM (Unverified) said

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Yeah, I'm pretty androgynous myself (see: JPAG). So, I think I am a good judge as to whether she is a bit too undefined.

And it's not because of her tits. What a silly comment.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 9:05PM Mr Khan said

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Certainly the best looking real time character model i've seen. But this game is still very enigmatic as a whole

So, Sony's entry in the "Vapor 3" of E3 2006 is certainly looking good. (Vapor 3 being Sony's Heavy Rain, Microsoft's Alan Wake, and Nintendo's Disaster: Day of Crisis)

Posted: Aug 6th 2008 11:07PM (Unverified) said

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with the only difference that Heavy Rain has actually been shown? (close doors to a few people from the media)
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Posted: Aug 7th 2008 4:29AM MrXBob said

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Uhh... Alan Wake has been shown in realtime demos many times. Don't you remember the hurricaine? The day-night cycles?
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 9:06PM Geebs said

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I'm very excited for this. And that's saying a lot since I'm not even a PS3 owner (or plan on being one).

Posted: Aug 6th 2008 9:08PM iHavePants said

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Fahrenheit was awesome, and all the problems with that game they seem to have removed with this, according to them. Eg: Super Powers.

Still, Fahrenheit WAS amazing and innovative, and as I said this can only be better.

Posted: Aug 7th 2008 7:50AM (Unverified) said

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I prefer "Chubby Rain"

Posted: Aug 6th 2008 9:23PM ObiBen8 said

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Wow, this looks like another reason for me to get a PS3.

Posted: Aug 6th 2008 9:25PM (Unverified) said

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este juego va a estar en pc,ps3,xbox 360 and psp http://www.gamepro.com/microsoft/xbox360/29215/info.shtml

Posted: Aug 6th 2008 9:30PM Obienator said

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It seems so, probably next year then.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 9:37PM Hyams said

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Sony bought it. It's only coming to the PS3.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 9:27PM (Unverified) said

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I noticed that most of the publicity surrounding this game seems to focus on the 'virtual actor' aspect.
At this point, I get that it looks cool.
Dilating pupils and rain soaked faces are great.
I'd like some gameplay details.

Posted: Aug 6th 2008 9:40PM Hyams said

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It'll play similiar to Farenheit/Indigo Prophecy.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 11:05PM (Unverified) said

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"It'll play similiar to Farenheit/Indigo Prophecy."

Annoying Quick Time Events (GET READY!!) every two minutes and a plot that starts off pretty well and then becomes laughably stupid the further you go?

Where do I sign up?
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Posted: Aug 7th 2008 7:48AM Hyams said

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Well, they've removed/fixed a lot of things people didn't like about Indigo Prophecy. Eg. there'll be no supernatural element to Heavy Rain's story.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 9:34PM modifiedbears said

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Hope the animation is on the same level.

Posted: Aug 6th 2008 9:38PM Hyams said

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Well, they're using the best motion capture technology they can get their hands on, so I wouldn't worry about the animations.
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Posted: Aug 6th 2008 10:07PM F1 Basu Gasu Bakuhatsu said

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Damn those are fine screen shots. Those definitely show what a PS3 can dish out.

Posted: Aug 6th 2008 10:23PM samfish said

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It looks pretty, but I'm not really impressed, insomuch as you can tell it's a character model. The skin in particular still has that plastic mannequin look about it.
Artistically, it looks like they're trying to cover the uncanny valley effect by giving it a sort of painterly feel. It kind of reminds me of Norman Rockwell, really. But the backgrounds are so...hard edged and static that they break the illusion.

At any rate, the animation is what will make or break it in the end. It'll mask the flaws to some extent or expose them. I'm personally not really impressed by realistic graphics until they can actually nail a real looking person and movies will obviously do that, first.

Posted: Aug 6th 2008 11:09PM SoCoolCurt said

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wow. that looks dammed good. this is one game that ive been interested in since first seeing it. i still have that tech demo on my PS3 lol.

i do have one question though.....in the Ripten gallery.....is that.....John Goodman?

Posted: Aug 7th 2008 5:30PM Deadpool said

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I think they're finally hitting the "Final Fantasy Spirits Within" level of detail. It's got the same amount of detail as Final Fantasy, but it's not as smooth yet. It's still a little rough around the edges but I have to say it wouldn't take much to get there. Other than that it's looking really great so far.

I just hope the story isn't as bad as Final Fantasy Spirits Within. It looked great but it was so disappointing.

Posted: Aug 7th 2008 9:26AM MemphisLeak said

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eh hi...
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