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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 4:49PM jhowlett said

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ha, duke nukem

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 6:01PM (Unverified) said

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Duke Nukem Burger Time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqJ2vBIv130


PS.
Considering that in last 3 weeks X360 outsold by about 20-30k more consoles (weekly) PS3 shouldn't that be Nintendo and Microsoft tie with Sony in 3rd place? ;)
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 4:51PM Duke said

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"Deering arrived at these figures "by triangulating Screen Digest and IDG data. He also took into account factors such as the growth of hi-def and the grey gamer market, the emergence of new game engines and increasing ubiquity of wi-fi access"

or we could go with "He just made a bunch of crap up."

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 4:51PM Haggard said

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Making crap up is the globally-respected basis for predicting the future, duke!
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:16PM Dirty said

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He was probably using the law of sines when he triangulated, that's why he is all messed up. He also didn't take into account the blue gamers and generation Z, not to mention the fabled waggle market effect.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 4:51PM Haggard said

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Nice pic :P

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 4:52PM (Unverified) said

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Those are very high estimates. Was this posted to spill more fanboy blood?

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 7:43PM severian00 said

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You gotta love how the numbers work out. you're talking about Sony selling 230 million units between 3 systems, hell the PS3 has already sold what 150 million by itself. Nintendo selling the same amount spilt between 2 systems Wii and DS. And finally the 360 all by itself being in third place. While I don't agree on the final numbers for the 360, I would think that this would piss off Sony fanboys more than anyone as they're getting a 150mil head start. Oh and 3 against 2 against 1 isn't really a fair comparison anyway.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 8:13PM Tez said

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Nintendo has a head start, too- how many DS units have been sold so far?
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 4:52PM samfish said

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I just can't see this scenario as plausible.

I can potentially see the Wii topping out around 80 million of 3rd parties don't step it the Hell up. If the 'hardcore' gamers don't embrace the Wii, then that makes sense, I suppose.
...but I just don't see what propels the PS3 to 70 million. 50 million maybe, but no way will it hit 70 million units at the current rate.

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 6:06PM R V said

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Thank you for your professional analysis that only professional anaylsts can perform.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 4:52PM (Unverified) said

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Wow, somebody fire this guy...

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:09PM (Unverified) said

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"...according to Chris Deering (FORMER head of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe)"
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:20PM Dirty said

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and someone else give him a sweet compensation package. Corporate parachutes are the best kind.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 9:13PM gatorboi352 said

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360 in 3rd? Give that man a medal!


:) :) :)
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 4:55PM (Unverified) said

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Can he give me some lottery numbers?

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 4:54PM kinshadow said

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It is about time someone started supporting the Grey game market! They have been a repressed people for many years and will no longer be ignore!

We're here! We're Grey! And we're going to Stay!

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 4:57PM FernandoRocker said

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The PS3 outselling the 360 at this current rate, it would take almost 3 years just to catch the 360... and thats only if the PS3 keeps outselling the 360 every month (the NPD preview shows the 360 outselling the PS3 in July).

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:28PM Vegeta has a ps3 said

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But keep in mine Fern-gully, this is looking at Sony as a whole, not just the ps3.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:56PM (Unverified) said

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In the Last 3 WEEKS - WORLDWIDE

X360 SOLD MORE CONSOLES than PS3.

See vgchartz.com

This week:
X360 151k
PS3 123k

About the same 2 and 3 weeks ago.

Next week is X360 more units in Japan than PS3 :)
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:58PM (Unverified) said

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I feel like you made exactly this same comment, but in a different context not too long ago. Oh! Here it is!

"At this rate, the PSP outselling the DS for an average of 10,000, it would take almost 25 years (or 1,200 weeks) to catch the DS (currently in Japan: PSP 10 million and DS 22 million)"

Just pointing it out because I was struck how similar both comments sounded in two different articles.

Also, did Sony punch your mom or something?
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 7:02PM Haggard said

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Fernando, I appeal to you - become a PC gamer and hate all consoles in equal measure!
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 7:15PM fwacce said

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anonim, the last site I would ever trust with any numbers would be vgchartz. Quoting them only makes you look foolish on message boards.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:00PM mezzaninex said

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Wishful thinking, but whatever.

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:00PM (Unverified) said

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As long as they release a new Metal Gear game evey month, this WILL happen!

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:05PM (Unverified) said

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THIS will be the year the PS3 breaks through and takes the sales lead

/headline in 2012

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:06PM Mr Khan said

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The only figure there that sounds plausible is 40 million for 360 by the "end" of it's lifespan (calling the end to be when they release it's successor)

At the current rate, 40-50 million lifetime seems about right. PS3 seems very bloated, and it's very hard to predict where Wii will land at this point

And the thing is, the high-def penetration doesn't really help either PS3 or 360 as much as they would hope. Because while one would perhaps purchase a Blu-Ray player in lieu of a DVD player for their new High-def TV, video games are still thankfully defined more by the games themselves than by what sort of video technology they can support. You will find instances of people who buy a PS360 over a Wii strictly because they have a better TV, but mostly that choice still hinges on the actual games for the platform

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:08PM (Unverified) said

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Is this guy on crack?

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:13PM (Unverified) said

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Crack is a bit 90's, its meth.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 10:30PM (Unverified) said

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Is there's any way for XFresh to gain 5 stars?
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:11PM Oldtaku said

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> took into account factors

So that's what they're calling 'pulling stuff out of your ass that you desperately hope is true' these days, eh?

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:13PM Dirty said

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THE FUTURE IS NOW!!!!!

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:18PM Roto13 said

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Considering we know almost nothing about what's going to happen past mid 2009, I'm going to have to call BS.

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:21PM FredFredrickson said

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What significance does 2011 hold?

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:24PM Mr Khan said

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Most likely the year that the next generation will premier, given a general 5-year-generation
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:24PM Duke said

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Its when "the future" actually begins.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:28PM samfish said

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It shall be the precursor to the end times.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 7:22PM jake11 said

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flying cars, finally
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 10:13PM (Unverified) said

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We need those BTTF Auto adjustable shoes, I'm tired of shoelaces.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:22PM Starcade said

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I like the new math where you count past generation consoles and current hand helds to boost your prediction. Even then it's pretty wild.

There's no way the PS3 achieves the same sales as the PS2 at it's current price point. And even lowered, I'm not sure it'll be enough. Gotta remember the PS2 is selling for practically nothing compared to everyone else. I'm not sure the PS3 will ever make that price point.

But I guess if you want to live in a bubble and manipulate the numbers, then perhaps in Sony's mind they've already sold more than anyone else.

Posted: Aug 12th 2008 2:06AM (Unverified) said

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Apparently the Wii isn't the "winner" either because now it's either attach rate or PC+360+PS3>Wii.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:22PM (Unverified) said

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heh heh, Duke Nukem Forever woot! now when it comes out, I will guess 2150, but even then that is still not enough time for them to finish it.....BALLS OF STEEL.

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:24PM Jensonb said

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Has anyone else noticed that if you take the PS2 out of that (As is fair given that he's only including Wii and DS for Nintendo), Nintendo is in the lead by well over a 100 million units? Talk about spinning your own math

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:28PM pohatu771 said

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They have to include PlayStation 2 because not all PlayStation 3 owners can play their old games... Wii owners can use their GameCube games, still.

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:29PM Rask said

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Woawoawoa.. Waitaminute..

So this guy is saying that my 2011, the PS2, PS3 and PSP combined will have sold ~230 million units? Breaking that down, the PS2 is at something like 130-140 mil easy and PSP is currently at what... 40 million??

So his prediction is that the PS3 will sell 40-60 million consoles in 6 years.

He's also saying that the PS3 and the Xbox 360 will be nose to nose this gen, a long way behind the Wii in terms of sales.

Bad analyst using SDF tomfoolery!

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:36PM (Unverified) said

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I was about to post something akin to what you just said, nearly verbatim. I'm glad someone else caught Deering's nearly clever slight of hand.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 11:31PM JCDoe said

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Hah, that was my thought exactly. Sure, if you compare the sales of all consoles with the word 'playstation' in them to the xbox 360, Sony comes out way on top!

The ps3 has a long way to go before it catches up with the 360, and both have a HUGE uphill trek before they can touch the wii. And don't give me any of the same old 'yeah, but the wii can't maintain' or 'things are trending toward' blah blah BS. The wii is kicking butt, even if you don't like it.
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Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:29PM (Unverified) said

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By then I will be playing my Xbox NEXT, so who gives a hoot. I would think the big N will have something ready by then too, but we will see.

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:32PM erh said

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"He predicted the installed base for PS3 will be 70 million, and said for PS2 it will be 90 million and PSP will be 70 million"

Where does 90 million PS2s come from? It's already sold 140 million. And there's no way the PS2 will outsell the Wii if you start counting at or after the Wii's launch date. It seems like he predicted the PS3 and PSP sales, and fudged an arbitrary way of measuring PS2s to make up the difference.

Posted: Aug 11th 2008 5:50PM (Unverified) said

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230 million? I think that's a little high for anyone. I would say its some what possible for the Sony, because this guy is including the ps2 "why is he including it? Why not throw in Sony flat screen tv's in the equation while he is at it."..... Even so, 230 million in three years? Sure The wii and DS are still selling well, but 115 million apiece in five years? When it took the ps2 8 years just to get 140 million?

I just don't see it possible, for anyone, I would be glad if some does though. Good for video games as a whole, right????

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