Are these some teasing tidbits about a possible Map Editor? Check out that last shot when our soldier pal lobs a plasma grenade towards the camera. Verrrrrrrry interesting. It's definitely a lot more robust-looking than Halo 3's Forge editor. Also, those look like new AI models of past cast members ... including Cortana. Playable models? In-game NPCs that'll be on your squad? Cats and dogs, living together? Who knows. What's for sure is that Bungie is saying "the ride isn't over yet."
Are these some teasing tidbits about a possible Map Editor? Check out that last shot when our soldier pal lobs a plasma grenade towards the camera. Verrrrrrrry interesting. It's definitely a lot more robust-looking than Halo 3's Forge editor. Also, those look like new AI models of past cast members ... including Cortana. Playable models? In-game NPCs that'll be on your squad? Cats and dogs, living together? Who knows. What's for sure is that Bungie is saying "the ride isn't over yet."
Reader Comments (44)
Posted: Aug 12th 2008 5:18PM modifiedbears said
I think there are going to be a lot of heart broken people if they reveal this is just for the PC version.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2008 3:38PM (Unverified) said
Could it possibly hint at Forge-spawned Enemies and Survival-like gametypes?
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Posted: Aug 12th 2008 3:50PM (Unverified) said
REALLY!? A game's full fledged map editor is better than Halo 3's FORGE!?!?! INCONCEIVABLE!
But in all seriousness, a full map editor with bots would definitely make me dust off Halo 3.
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But in all seriousness, a full map editor with bots would definitely make me dust off Halo 3.
Posted: Aug 12th 2008 4:00PM (Unverified) said
Touché.
Bots make everything more awesome.Me and my mates still dust-off UT2004 to play Invasion every once in a while.
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Bots make everything more awesome.Me and my mates still dust-off UT2004 to play Invasion every once in a while.
Posted: Aug 12th 2008 5:01PM (Unverified) said
I prefer UT, the first one, from 1999. Best bots evar.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2008 3:45PM xThePunisherx said
...or maybe they just have access to all of that cuz they....y'know....MADE THE GAME!
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Posted: Aug 12th 2008 3:58PM (Unverified) said
Of course we know that, but the fact that they did it(+ the still models on Halo 3 Modded Maps) means that there are no coded restrictions when it comes to AI and Models in MP.
Hell, if you mess long enough(risking Live Ban) you learn that you can put any object from the campaign(Shade Turrets,Pelicans or even the Giant Ship in the last mission) into the map as long as you know how to trick Forge into thinking it's "all fine".
Here are some examples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcFOwalpw2c
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Hell, if you mess long enough(risking Live Ban) you learn that you can put any object from the campaign(Shade Turrets,Pelicans or even the Giant Ship in the last mission) into the map as long as you know how to trick Forge into thinking it's "all fine".
Here are some examples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcFOwalpw2c
Posted: Aug 12th 2008 4:02PM xThePunisherx said
That's most likely how they made the campagin, but that doesn't mean they want to release it to the public. I doubt Bungie is that nice, but i've been wrong before (haha, not rly).
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Posted: Aug 13th 2008 10:22AM xThePunisherx said
They charged me $10 for 3 crappy maps and 1 decent one. I know them alright.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2008 3:50PM (Unverified) said
I'd be happy with bots. Come onnn.
Imagine a map spawning with tons of Hunters and Brutes. Good times.
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Imagine a map spawning with tons of Hunters and Brutes. Good times.
Posted: Aug 12th 2008 4:02PM (Unverified) said
Imagine retarded eight-year old making a map full of them.
I still have nightmares after that 500% Speed 10% Gravity infection game on Sandtraps.
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I still have nightmares after that 500% Speed 10% Gravity infection game on Sandtraps.
Posted: Aug 12th 2008 3:52PM SpacePenguinBot said
Clearly hinting at a more powerful version of Forge. Is it going to be multiplayer? I think people underestimate how close Bungie has come to the user created content promise of LittleBigPlanet, just without the cutesy characters. Being able to control all the geometry of a map and share it on your file share sounds like a winner. I'm not sure what's up with the NPC(?) characters, but it can't be bad. The only thing missing from all this is a more robust system of rating content and making the best of it available to everyone.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2008 4:49PM (Unverified) said
"user created content promise of LittleBigPlanet"
You're kidding, right?
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You're kidding, right?
Posted: Aug 12th 2008 4:59PM SpacePenguinBot said
I'm not really kidding. You've got a multiplayer map editor that you can play in while you create. Real time physics and all that. That's a major part of the appeal of LBP, along with it's more accessible style. The scale of what you can do isn't as grand as LBP, but if Bungie continues in this direction it's getting a lot closer. If what's hinted at here is mostly real, they just need a better (in game) way to find your way to the best stuff.
It all depends on how committed Bungie is to the idea of doing major community-based updates for Halo 3. Certainly more than the average studio, but we'll see...
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It all depends on how committed Bungie is to the idea of doing major community-based updates for Halo 3. Certainly more than the average studio, but we'll see...
Posted: Aug 12th 2008 4:01PM (Unverified) said
Maybe it could be class-based multiplayer objective based gametypes ala Team Fortress 2.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2008 4:47PM (Unverified) said
That would certainly keep with Bungies motif of making games that are merely rip-offs of other franchises.
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Posted: Aug 12th 2008 5:40PM (Unverified) said
Woah the Superintendent is in that Thank you screen...
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Posted: Aug 12th 2008 5:41PM (Unverified) said
They're making another Halo for the orignal Xbox?
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Posted: Aug 12th 2008 6:10PM (Unverified) said
Why now? Why not last year? Or, better yet, why not roll something like this out the door with the Premium version of H3 on launch? The answer is timing... See below.
As H4 nears, H3's product life cycle draws to a close. Having said this, you simply can not close the doors on 10 million + fans and expect them to shut up and go to sleep. The fans want more maps by which to p0ne m0re n00bs. Bungie needs the devs, who were previously slaving way at building NEW maps, to get involved on up and coming projects (ala H4).
No time like the present. Times a wasting.
Enter Bungie's solution. Why not give the map creation tools away to the community? Problem(s) solved. Happy masses... Key resources working on key projects... It's a win, win.
Oh, and, this answers the question of what, exactly, are the three Bungie projects..
Project 1) Halo Wars (I know, I know, Ensemble Studios is building this... Do you honestly think, for a moment, that Bungie would not be closely involved in a third party's work especially given this is their prize IP).
Project 2) H3 Level Creation Tools
Project 3) Halo 4 (Ok, they can not call it H4 since MS owns the H4 IP. It will be a spacey, futuristic, FPS.. The fourth, in fact, from Bungie... so, H4-ish)
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As H4 nears, H3's product life cycle draws to a close. Having said this, you simply can not close the doors on 10 million + fans and expect them to shut up and go to sleep. The fans want more maps by which to p0ne m0re n00bs. Bungie needs the devs, who were previously slaving way at building NEW maps, to get involved on up and coming projects (ala H4).
No time like the present. Times a wasting.
Enter Bungie's solution. Why not give the map creation tools away to the community? Problem(s) solved. Happy masses... Key resources working on key projects... It's a win, win.
Oh, and, this answers the question of what, exactly, are the three Bungie projects..
Project 1) Halo Wars (I know, I know, Ensemble Studios is building this... Do you honestly think, for a moment, that Bungie would not be closely involved in a third party's work especially given this is their prize IP).
Project 2) H3 Level Creation Tools
Project 3) Halo 4 (Ok, they can not call it H4 since MS owns the H4 IP. It will be a spacey, futuristic, FPS.. The fourth, in fact, from Bungie... so, H4-ish)
Posted: Aug 12th 2008 7:07PM (Unverified) said
1) They have already specifically pointed out that they are heavily involved with the ensemble project and that it is not one of the three projects they are working on themselves.
2) Plausible but honestly I think that something as robust as that would be wasted being released this late in the cycle. And honestly it wouldn't be a "new" project seeing as it is being added to an already existing game.
3) It has already been pointed out by many comments that Bungie is not making Halo 4. MS Studios is potentially working on Halo 4 currently (Big reason Frankie left Bungie and went to MS) Either that or just the Halo "Chronicles" Jackson project...
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2) Plausible but honestly I think that something as robust as that would be wasted being released this late in the cycle. And honestly it wouldn't be a "new" project seeing as it is being added to an already existing game.
3) It has already been pointed out by many comments that Bungie is not making Halo 4. MS Studios is potentially working on Halo 4 currently (Big reason Frankie left Bungie and went to MS) Either that or just the Halo "Chronicles" Jackson project...
Posted: Aug 14th 2008 7:02PM (Unverified) said
I think they're really making this map editor for H4, or whatever you want to call it. But they probably figured they could port it to H3 as a thank you to all the fans...and to shut them up until H4 is released. Now we can have actually Infection games. No more zombie that run at the speed of light and drop with one shot.
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Posted: Aug 13th 2008 12:39AM Misfit Toy said
Bungie is king at driving their community crazy with crumbs of information.
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Posted: Aug 17th 2008 9:07PM (Unverified) said
Look, this could very well be a small part of Halo 4 (Or whatever they'll call it... "Bionic SuperSoldiers on RingWorlds" or "Marathon 3") - why would they not put out an early version of the new map editor and take community comments on it to they can perfect it?
I'm rather cautiously excited actually. If this is a full-on map editor (Letting all those people who hacked maps do it legitemately for a change...) then this is going to change the face of Halo Machinima yet again.
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I'm rather cautiously excited actually. If this is a full-on map editor (Letting all those people who hacked maps do it legitemately for a change...) then this is going to change the face of Halo Machinima yet again.
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