Cammie: Nintendo 'disappointed' with E3 performance

Instead of casual games they should have had pictures of nekkid peach.


just sayin'

Super Princess Peach 2: Samfish Edition?

If samfish made SPP2, it would be the first Nintendo game to get an AO rating

And parents think GTAIV is bad *shudders*

Feeling Peach's vibes would have a whole new meaning!

Samfish Edition, you say? I'd hit it.

uh oh, samfish. It looks like some early gameplay footage leaked onto the interwebz

http://pimpmario1up.ytmnd.com/

Damned hackers! At least they didn't reveal the new things you can do with her parasol.

As long as it'll use touch screen then it'll be awesome...

I do to, she was over excited about everything. Also, what is so great about WArio? That wouldn't please us, Metroid and Zelda would.

It's been only one year after the last Metroid game, and less than that since the last proper Zelda (the first handheld Zelda to be made by EAD Group 3, the Zelda team)

Why people seem to expect them to announce games from those franchises this year is beyond me, frankly.

Question: How is a new Zelda game better than a new Wario game? Is it just your preference in franchises/genres, or is there some pecking order I should know about?

"Also, what is so great about WArio? That wouldn't please us, Metroid and Zelda would."

This comment disturbs me. Even IF they had Metroid and Zelda where the hell would the innovation or orignality be? It would just be like any other E3.

I want something ORIGINAL from Nintendo that isn't waggle ware.

Mr. Khan, it's probably because they don't have much else (especially 3rd party) to appease the hardcore type.

If AAA 3rd party games were coming out as frequently as they are on the other systems then that wouldn't be the case.

There's a reason xbox owners can go years without hearing about a new Halo and playstation owners can go years without hearing about a new Metal Gear Solid, but Nintendo fans have to hear about a new Zelda/Mario each and every year. There are fewer guaranteed triple A franchises, so the fans are adament about getting their fill of the few franchises that represent that.

Bu..but what about Captain Rainbow?


They should start develop a new Star Fox already.

No, it wouldn't have made YOU any happier.
A new Pikmin wouldn't have made the conference AWESOME, but it would have solved the primary problem of 'No New Core Games'.

I see the phrase tossed around a lot with regards to the Nintendo presser..."they still don't get 'it'". At this point, I would LOOOVE to know what 'it' is, too.

"It" is quite simple. It is making games/peripherals for more than just making money. "It" is not entirely leaning on hype and demand and your battered fans that will bite at any crappy bait you throw on your hook. "It" is integrity. "It" is not lowest common denominator. Shipping another Pikmin wouldn't fix "it," but at least it will show that they are listening to at least someone.

Put simply - "It" is quality for quality's sake.
See: Braid.
See: TF2 STILL being updated for free with quality updates.
See: Banjo Kazooie deal
See: Microsoft and Sony constantly competing amongst themselves to keep quality at it's highest levels.

Mario Galaxy had "it." And that was the trick card in nintendo's deck on the wii.

Pikmin would certainly have "it," then, as it's likely being made by one of the EAD teams, and they all do excellent work.

But acting like the other companies have more integrity? Foolishness. Nintendo may be bad, but when you're competitors are Sony and Microsoft of all companies, you'd have to be pretty poor indeed to lack integrity when compared to the two of them

""It" is quite simple. It is making games/peripherals for more than just making money."

Do you think this applies to Nintendo? Are you referring to the balance board? Mario Kart? Those arguably add something to the game, depending on who you ask.

"It" is not entirely leaning on hype and demand and your battered fans that will bite at any crappy bait you throw on your hook."

It's PRETTY misleading and blind-sighted to think Nintendo's FANS are battered, seeing as they're coming off of a new Zelda, Metroid, Mario, Smash, Kart, Fire Emblem and more since the Wii's launch. The 'Casual' players are more battered and starving by a longshot than the core players.


"It" is integrity. "It" is not lowest common denominator."

This applies to Nintendo...how? What have they done that can honestly be considered lowest common denominator?

"Shipping another Pikmin wouldn't fix "it," but at least it will show that they are listening to at least someone."

Again, how are they not listening? They've already released a ton of they biggest games. Voice chat is coming. They've said a storage solution is in the works. You're asking for an unrealistic output from them for the core side of things, especially when that core output already dwarfs the casual output.


"Put simply - "It" is quality for quality's sake.
See: Braid.
See: TF2 STILL being updated for free with quality updates.
See: Banjo Kazooie deal
See: Microsoft and Sony constantly competing amongst themselves to keep quality at it's highest levels.

Mario Galaxy had "it." And that was the trick card in nintendo's deck on the wii."

Are you REALLY trying to say Nintendo's games aren't quality? REALLY?? Do you have any idea what you're saying? Nintendo is KNOWN for their absolute top notch quality. It's what got them through the N64 and Gamecube years almost single-handedly!

"It" is not entirely leaning on hype and demand and your battered fans that will bite at any crappy bait you throw on your hook."

sup, HALO3 and GOW2?

"See: Braid."

Bah, that's nothing more than a Mario clone :D

"See: Banjo Kazooie deal"

Did Microsoft/Rare say that they were updating the graphics? Cause B&K didn't age well at all

Ah gad people stop saying "it". "it" is bothering me. That's what "it" is.

Suffice to say is one of the words the Knights of Ni cannot hear!

"B&K didn't age well at all"

Leave the internet and never return, even after 10 years, I still love that game and its sequel.

And will still be getting it on XBLA simply because of Stop 'n' Swop. Because after ten years, we're finally getting THAT, too.

A new Banjo game has always been the reason I was going to buy an Xbox 360. Sure, it might be sub-par, but if it enhances the original masterpiece that was Banjo-Kazooie, I'm in.

[/rantaboutachildren'sgame]

I was talking graffics wise. The gameplay is still good

@ Jfk_Aok "See: Microsoft and Sony constantly competing amongst themselves to keep quality at it's highest levels." You have to be kidding, right? You mean by seeing how many shades of brown they can shove into a FPS? Don't get me wrong, both systems have good games, but "quality at it's highest"? give me a break.

Like Disney Nintendo injects all their employees with Dopamine.

The comment she said in Gametrailers was pretty much “F*ck off you are not our main market anymore” but in a happy way.

She mentioned something about bringing more smiles to more faces when she was speaking at the E3 conference. Utterly terrible.

Thank you Mr. Esc... you seem to be the only one who caught this. Frankly, I think it's an NOA clusterfuck in general. The company has always been clueless but they haven't been market leader in a long time so they know fuck all of what they're doing there (example, not only was Wario and Rhythm Heaven completely missing from their press conference... both were missing from the showroom floor and only available in their private booth which was invite only).

I mean, hell... you want examples?

The day after the E3 backlash, Itawa apologized to the core gamers. NOJ apologized... He said their feelings of disappointment should not be ignored.

Reggie? After saying "what's not hardcore about animal crossing" went on to further push the notion that E3 isn't the place to show off to gamers. Wait, WHAT?!? What the fuck kind of peace pipe has this meat man been smoking on? Let's go over this well... a vast majority of the press gathered at that event was gaming press. The industry folks their from retail side of things were... game buyers for stores, mostly hardcore gamercentric outlets. The companies represented there was... core game developers. Frankly, Nintendo saying E3 isn't for game announcements is like saying a KKK meeting is a wonderful place to deliver an MLK speech.

Cammie? Start out defensive. "This is how I am." Curiously doesn't understand why gamers weren't happy while pointing at Wii Music and Wii Resort. Constantly prattled on about how her kids are sooo proud of her working at Nintendo (a big step up from Doritos). And then, when asked what to say to the core gamers, rather than mention two very hot Nintendo titles (Wario and Rhythm Heaven), went on to say "Keep playing smash brothers, keep playing mario kart." Hell, evidence of ineptitude? During an E3 interview, in their booth, one person asked what that Rhythm Heaven game was about (note: the machine was apparently very close to her) and she answered with a "We're focusing on our own software rather than our competitors." And NOW she's apologizing? But wait, the FULL interview includes nuggets like how she adoooores Brain Training and Zelda is tooooo hard.

Aye. Even if she wasn't totally clueless, she's still just a bad speaker altogether.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/10333/saturday-night-live-mom-jeans

With Cammy cameo!

They just changed the entry box. Your messages still vanish and reappear like they have for a while.

Well you know, that and have miyamoto retract the statement concerning Zelda's difficulty.

I'm sorry, but if there's one game that needs to be kept sacred, it's that. All Zelda games, in my opinion, have either had a steady climb in difficulty in the past, or a jump from easy to hard over the period of a couple dungeons. Twilight Princess... NEVER really got hard. It just had long dungeons.

I think maybe Nintendo should try and take a page from their own franchise, pokemon, and make the two games again. Make an action and combat oriented game like Oracle of Seasons and then a Puzzle/Difficulty oriented game like Oracle of Ages.

Except apply it in a new format. Make an easy, more guiding kind of game and then make one where it's open, complex and gives you more freedom.

I don't want Zelda games to be difficult in the "oops, you're dead!" sense. It takes too much of a commitment to start over as it is when you die.
I think that games like Zelda and Okami SHOULD be easy because they want you to go through the game and experience it. We should get away from the idea that you have to potentially die in a game. I agree that TP could have been a little harder, if only to make you fear that you're about to die, but still...

That said, a ramping up of the puzzle difficulty in Zelda would be much appreciated.

Harder, less formulaic bosses is really what I want to make the games more difficult.

I would like a harder Zelda, and a Zelda funner to play than TP.

A little from column A, a little from column B!

Don't forget column C: rule 34. That was invoked too.

oh man, do we REALLY need to invoke rule 34 for Cammie Dunaway? Let's just pass on that >_