Good riddance, you worthless, clacking agent of spongy misdirection. Oh, and tell The Duke we said "Hi."
Update: Curses! The pad is a "limited edition, promotional item" for now.
[Thanks, Fenix]
Good riddance, you worthless, clacking agent of spongy misdirection. Oh, and tell The Duke we said "Hi."
Update: Curses! The pad is a "limited edition, promotional item" for now.
[Thanks, Fenix]
Reader Comments (99)
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 11:15AM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said
@Wiinterfang:
If you're going to bring up DS Lite, why not bring up EVERY system that's been redesigned? NES, Super NES, Game Boy, Game Boy Advance, Genesis, PlayStation, PlayStation 2, PlayStation Portable...
@Jack:
Get back to your bridge, man.
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If you're going to bring up DS Lite, why not bring up EVERY system that's been redesigned? NES, Super NES, Game Boy, Game Boy Advance, Genesis, PlayStation, PlayStation 2, PlayStation Portable...
@Jack:
Get back to your bridge, man.
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 11:21AM JACKOFNOTRADES85 said
@BPM
"Get back to your bridge, man."
It looks like you didn't have anything to counter my point. Your just mad because I was right.
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"Get back to your bridge, man."
It looks like you didn't have anything to counter my point. Your just mad because I was right.
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 11:46AM (Unverified) said
@Jack:heres the point
Fans: WE WANT RUMBLE
Sony: Okay, you can have rumble, but you need to pay $55 for a brand new controller.
Fans: WE WANT A BETTER D-PAD
Microsoft: Okay, but you need to buy a "limited edition" controller, which will sell for anywhere between $50-$60.
Fans: WE WANT 1:1 MOTION
Nintendo: Okay, but you need to buy this $10-15 attachment to your current controller.
If you want rumble or a better d-pad, then you "need" a new $55 controller
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Fans: WE WANT RUMBLE
Sony: Okay, you can have rumble, but you need to pay $55 for a brand new controller.
Fans: WE WANT A BETTER D-PAD
Microsoft: Okay, but you need to buy a "limited edition" controller, which will sell for anywhere between $50-$60.
Fans: WE WANT 1:1 MOTION
Nintendo: Okay, but you need to buy this $10-15 attachment to your current controller.
If you want rumble or a better d-pad, then you "need" a new $55 controller
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 11:54AM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said
I'm not "mad", just "annoyed." Because you are annoying. Not so much what you have to say, but how you say it.
Yes, if a game "requires" MotionPlus, you will need it no matter what. But, so far, the only game to require that is Wii Sports Resort... which comes bundled with a MotionPlus for $50. So far, no other title has been specified to require it, or even use it as an option (not that I'm aware of, at least).
My point being is that it is attached to existing Wii Remotes; you don't have to replace it to get the new functionality, like with the 360 controller or SIXAXIS.
Hell, what about the introduction of DualAnalog and DualShock for PS1? Any game that REQUIRED the use of the analog sticks (prime example: Ape Escape) could not be played at all with the original, analog-less PlayStation controllers.
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Yes, if a game "requires" MotionPlus, you will need it no matter what. But, so far, the only game to require that is Wii Sports Resort... which comes bundled with a MotionPlus for $50. So far, no other title has been specified to require it, or even use it as an option (not that I'm aware of, at least).
My point being is that it is attached to existing Wii Remotes; you don't have to replace it to get the new functionality, like with the 360 controller or SIXAXIS.
Hell, what about the introduction of DualAnalog and DualShock for PS1? Any game that REQUIRED the use of the analog sticks (prime example: Ape Escape) could not be played at all with the original, analog-less PlayStation controllers.
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 11:59AM (Unverified) said
"So far, no other title has been specified to require it, or even use it as an option (not that I'm aware of, at least)."
*COUGHCOUGH*Red Steel 2*COUGHCOUGH*
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*COUGHCOUGH*Red Steel 2*COUGHCOUGH*
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 12:02PM JACKOFNOTRADES85 said
@BPM
I didn't say it like smart ass. I was stating the obvious. You only think im annoying because I smash you in a internet arguement.
"So far, no other title has been specified to require it, or even use it as an option (not that I'm aware of, at least)."
Joystiq just posted an article about EA releasing a new tenis games a couple of hours ago.
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I didn't say it like smart ass. I was stating the obvious. You only think im annoying because I smash you in a internet arguement.
"So far, no other title has been specified to require it, or even use it as an option (not that I'm aware of, at least)."
Joystiq just posted an article about EA releasing a new tenis games a couple of hours ago.
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 12:04PM JACKOFNOTRADES85 said
@Moptimus Slime
Where is the Motion Plus pricing posted at?
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Where is the Motion Plus pricing posted at?
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 12:11PM (Unverified) said
@Jack: When did I post a definite price for Motion Plus? I put between $10-15, which is what its likely to retail at (sup, Wii Wheel?).
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Posted: Aug 20th 2008 10:23AM erwos said
Sounds excellent. I really have to do the sandpaper mod on my current controllers sometime.
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 10:24AM (Unverified) said
About damn time. I do agree with Vcize though, the design really is a fundamentally flawed - to take it anywhere past "actually functional" it'd need a complete redesign.
I hope they fix the buttons while they're at it too, so they're not as stiff.
I hope they fix the buttons while they're at it too, so they're not as stiff.
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 10:29AM JACKOFNOTRADES85 said
Anybody that says the 360 controller design is flawed and sucks has personal issues with MS and cannot be taken serious.
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 10:36AM (Unverified) said
Anyone who thought the old D-Pad was perfect in every way is clearly in denial.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2008 10:41AM JACKOFNOTRADES85 said
I agree that the controller's d-pad isn't that great, but if someone says the entire controller is a bad design and flawed then one might think "fanboyism"
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Posted: Aug 20th 2008 10:46AM (Unverified) said
Of course it wasn't perfect. It just took getting used to. A learning curve, if you will. But fanboys wanna act like "OH NOEZ, MY THUMB IS MELTING I CANT EVER PLAY TEH STREETFIGHTERZZZ AGAIN ARGHHHHH!!!1!"
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Posted: Aug 20th 2008 11:00AM Vcize said
The 360 controller is by far my favorite of any console I've ever played, but controller preference is just that...a preference, and I am sure there are plenty of people that don't like it.
Fenix, the 360's d-pad was far more than just "getting used to it". The whole design (of the d-pad, certainly not the whole controller) is just a bad idea from the get-go. It sits on a rocker. As such, to register a new click, it has to reset on the rocker first. So, if you want to tap 'forward, forward' you actually have to do 'forward, let go and wait for th d-pad to re-center itself, forward'. That is poor design.
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Fenix, the 360's d-pad was far more than just "getting used to it". The whole design (of the d-pad, certainly not the whole controller) is just a bad idea from the get-go. It sits on a rocker. As such, to register a new click, it has to reset on the rocker first. So, if you want to tap 'forward, forward' you actually have to do 'forward, let go and wait for th d-pad to re-center itself, forward'. That is poor design.
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 10:34AM Geebs said
I really don't see what's wrong with the controller D: I love the thing. Perfect fit for my hands and the feel's just about right.
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 10:39AM Burritoclock said
Yes, while cool this doesn't help my 9, count them, 9 controllers...
Guess I'll have 10 now.
Guess I'll have 10 now.
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 10:44AM BPMOmega XBL PSN Steam said
Looks like you have a bigger problem than Johnny Bravio up there.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2008 10:40AM ObiBen8 said
I liked using the Duke every once in awhile. Now I'm looking forward to picking up the red controller even more.
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 10:50AM Altairio said
Such good news. The dpad was really the only complaint for what is otherwise the best controller I've ever used.
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 11:19AM (Unverified) said
Yup same here, the 360 controller will pretty much be the best controller ive ever used now.
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Posted: Aug 20th 2008 10:55AM (Unverified) said
I love how the 360 fanbots trampled on Nintendo when they announced to release the Motion+ "That's what the thing should've done in the first place", "Haha you Wii owners have to buy accessories AGAIN".
And now Microsoft is offering a new controller because one of the fundamental parts of the design was flawed from the beginning (much like the graphics chip, heatsink and DVD drive). I'm amazed that a big company like that can make such essential mistakes and not even feel bad for it. But why should they, most of their obedient fans will buy this shit in an instant.
And now Microsoft is offering a new controller because one of the fundamental parts of the design was flawed from the beginning (much like the graphics chip, heatsink and DVD drive). I'm amazed that a big company like that can make such essential mistakes and not even feel bad for it. But why should they, most of their obedient fans will buy this shit in an instant.
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 11:05AM Vcize said
It's not like there aren't plenty of people complaining that this should've been done from the get-go.
The big difference though, is that the d-pad is rarely used for anything more than switching weapons or issuing squad based commands. You can't design a d-pad crappy enough to makes that stuff unfunctional. The crappy d-pad really only affects fighting games, of which there are not many.
On the other side, when you basically admit that the waggle is poorly implemented on a controller/console for which the ENTIRE selling point is said waggle, and pretty much every game out there uses it at its core, that is a much bigger deal than admitting poor design on a supplementary d-pad that is heavily used in around 6 out of 300 games.
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The big difference though, is that the d-pad is rarely used for anything more than switching weapons or issuing squad based commands. You can't design a d-pad crappy enough to makes that stuff unfunctional. The crappy d-pad really only affects fighting games, of which there are not many.
On the other side, when you basically admit that the waggle is poorly implemented on a controller/console for which the ENTIRE selling point is said waggle, and pretty much every game out there uses it at its core, that is a much bigger deal than admitting poor design on a supplementary d-pad that is heavily used in around 6 out of 300 games.
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 11:11AM JACKOFNOTRADES85 said
@meist
Wow, another person that cannot open their eyes to see the difference.
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Wow, another person that cannot open their eyes to see the difference.
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 11:22AM FireAnt360 said
What's your point, every company F*&k up (some more than others) at least their trying to improve and not staying stagnant.
Nintendo - Motion Plus
Microsoft - D-Pad
PS3 - Rumble
and all of them you have to spend more money if you don't want it don't buy it.
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Nintendo - Motion Plus
Microsoft - D-Pad
PS3 - Rumble
and all of them you have to spend more money if you don't want it don't buy it.
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 10:56AM The Kong said
Ok great, all they have to do is make the controller indestructable, because I am an angry gamer...like the hulk, and i take my anger out on my ever so expensive and colorful controllers, i broke 6 already, a white one, 2 black, and 3 blue, oh and i spilled lemonade on one of my other ones, i want ToughControllers!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 11:01AM (Unverified) said
Well... sorry to burst everyones bubble, but shacknews is reporting that this is only a limited edition controller that will NOT be hitting the states.
Said to be "optimized" for Konami's Pro Evolution Soccer series, the green controller is billed as a "a limited edition promotional item that is only available in Europe, Asia and Latin America while supplies last," the company told Eurogamer.
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/54286
Said to be "optimized" for Konami's Pro Evolution Soccer series, the green controller is billed as a "a limited edition promotional item that is only available in Europe, Asia and Latin America while supplies last," the company told Eurogamer.
http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/54286
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 11:00AM Wubbytoes said
Finally! That damn d-pad is pretty much unusable.
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 11:03AM KingBroly said
I demand pics
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 11:32AM Snowblind said
There are pics at Eurogamer. But besides the limited edition colour, it looks exactly the same as a regular controller.
http://www.eurogamer.net/gallery.php?game_id=&article_id=218838
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http://www.eurogamer.net/gallery.php?game_id=&article_id=218838
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 11:21AM (Unverified) said
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 11:08AM Dragun said
That's great, now fix the rrod issue that my bro is getting on his new 360 with the latest chipsets, etc. not refurbished. Once they have a REAL stable hardware release with the new dpad, then i'd say they're on the right track (hardware wise). They should also stop selling the system without a hard drive once and for all so that more devs will use it.
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 11:31AM PezHead said
Or...just use the analog stick.
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 11:38AM (Unverified) said
The Halo Controller D-pad also feels better than the original.I hope the Red black controller includes this fixed D-pad.
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 11:42AM ShinAntonio said
Maybe now I can play SF3: 3rd strike on the 360 instead of hooking up my original Xbox. In fact, I could conceivably throw away the original Xbox altogether. Wait, it's still too hard to hit the shoulder buttons, which doesn't work for SF's six button control scheme. I hate that adapters and 3rd party controllers have been basically eliminated this generation, my Saturn pad isn't nearly as useful as it used to be.
Posted: Aug 20th 2008 12:03PM KaneRobot said
Sounds good, even if it's limited. I modded my current 360 controller to make the D-pad better since the old one was so annoying.
Posted: Aug 21st 2008 12:55AM Zombienutz said
That's nice. MS: "Yes! We made it better! Isn't that awesome?" Us: "Can't wait!" MS: "Oh, about that...it isn't really going to be for everyone. Kinda limited. Sorry. Better luck next time."
Posted: Aug 24th 2008 3:35PM (Unverified) said
I made a little How To video on how to fix your xbox 360 d pad without taking the controller apart!
It's on the instructables site and Youtube.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Fix_your_Xbox_360_D_Pad/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sfh_ktAT8zU
It's on the instructables site and Youtube.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Fix_your_Xbox_360_D_Pad/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sfh_ktAT8zU
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