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OK, glad that you didn't mean to come off that way.

I, personally, don't agree with Obama's position. I understand the concern by many over the Bush political machine, but that doesn't drive me to agree with Obama's view.

Hey Duke thanks for understanding. I am not going to tell you to vote for Obama. One of the reasons that people stick with McCain is because they think.

A. Obama is a socialist

B. Obama is inexperienced

C. Religious reasons pro life/anti gay marriage

Lets start with point A. Raising taxes can be construed to some as being a socialist stance. Now in this current state we live in, there is no way this economy keep going unless there is re write of tax laws. We cannot keep continue to fight wars without a tax increase, it has never been done in the history of the United States. McCain has show no reservations about going to war with another Middle Eastern Country, he also shown support for the continued Bush tax cuts. How do we sustain our march towards "spreading democracy" without some type of consistent net positive revenue stream? Because the Iraq war has no paid for itself despite assurances by Bush/Cheney that it would.

B. Obama is inexperienced: Bush was a Governor of Texas. Came from a family full with ties to political history, Dick Cheney his VP worked with the Nixon administration. Will probably have an entire chapter dedicated to him in your grandchildren's history textbook...unfavorably.

C. Religious aspect: When your parents lose their home or the economy is in the shitter no amount of prayer or religious dedication will put food on your table. Religion is a personal matter not a political matter. Besides religious motivation in politics swings a little too close to a theocratic nature. You got to respect the Constitution.

@Leo

funny thing about church and state is that it was mearly a letter to one of Jefferson's advisors as opposed to something that our founding fathers wrote in the constitution or even agreed upon. It seems if you ask any person about seperation of church and state they will say it is in the constitution. Our founding fathers had the foresight to put it there. Wrong.

I think the moral decay of our society can be directly attributed to our opulent lifestyles and the fact that God has been removed from our lives for reasons of political pandering and political correctness.

I am not advocating forced religon on anyone but I am saying that America would be in better shape if the guiding principles of religon were taught in the public school system (civics wouldn't hurt either). After all, our country was founded on the premise of religous freedom and all of our laws evoloved from these same righteous edicts.

My mom always told me the two things you never discuss are religon and politics. Whoops.

@immortal

I hope I wasn't coming across as disingenuous in my attempt to establish separation of church and state.Yes you are right there is nothing in the Constitution that unequivocally states an absolute separation of church and state. The direct quote of "separation of church and state" was written like you say by Jefferson in the Treaty of Tripoli. Which had no bearing on the Constitution.

However, in the Constitution it does explicitly state that government cannot endorse a specific religion but it also states that you cannot prevent the exercise of. Which means if you want to assemble private citizens in a form of prayer or religious demonstration you can but expecting the government to endorse your prayer or even make it a mandatory implementation to all citizens would be deemed unconstitutional. You can prayer groups in school during recess or after school, you can have Christian clubs, but you cannot have teachers make everyone bow their heads in prayer at the beginning of every class.

Now some might say that religion must be protected in a public setting or in courtrooms due to majority rule or continued tradition. Now why is this unconstitutional? Of course we know its not just religion that people are defending here it is a derivative of Christian protestantism that is being advocated. In 20 years some communities in the country will have a Hispanic majority. Most of these Hispanics are Catholic. If we go by majority rule and disregard the Constitution, they can easily vote in mandatory hail mary's for everyone despite Protestantism's reservations of the Virgin Mary being a divine entity. See the conundrum this creates if we have government sanctioned religion?

I think the one class that all school systems would benefit from if it were an implemented course of the curriculum would be critical thinking. Logic based thinking I think would provide an edge to other school systems around the world. If you haven't take this class, take it. It is going to change your life and your perceptions of the world.

"Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquillity, of Mussulmen; and, as the said States never entered into any war, or act of hostility against any Mahometan nation, it is declared by the parties, that no pretext arising from religious opinions, shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."

Even though its not in the Constitution its still an extension of the founding father's intent on the reason the Constitution was written. Therefore ironing out any argued subtext associated with the initial intention of the Constitution.

Mcpoop~

I have =never= agreed with a thing you have ever written. So, I about choked on my lunch reading your post (copied below) as I agree 100%.

Also...I supported Paul, but can not, in good conscience, support Obama. I seriously dislike McCain, but will vote for him over Obama. Obviously, I am a conservative republican, and one who is not very happy with our choices this year.

Kudos to you and your post:

" think the moral decay of our society can be directly attributed to our opulent lifestyles and the fact that God has been removed from our lives for reasons of political pandering and political correctness.

I am not advocating forced religon on anyone but I am saying that America would be in better shape if the guiding principles of religon were taught in the public school system (civics wouldn't hurt either). After all, our country was founded on the premise of religous freedom and all of our laws evoloved from these same righteous edicts. "

@knightmarquise

So in your opinion what makes McCain more moral than Obama?

...and I promise I won't bite your head off.

Leo...

The other funny thing is 9 times out of 10 I +1 your post because I agree with your stance on video games, however, in politics, we're obviously polar opposites.

I'd be happy to discuss politics with you should you wish. You can reach me at silverbearpowdercoating[at]gmail[dot]com

Right...because the 4 million NEW voters he brought out at the primaries won't bother voting again in the main election. That's horrible logic.

"Go read the Rock the Vote article on Kotaku if you want some real news."

Or http://english.aljazeera.net/ like a good little terrorist!


(just kidding, but you are being kind of a jerk here, lighten up)

All I can say is that I want to elect a Republican. I don't care who he is as long as he is old, white and publicly says he loves Jesus, even if he really has no idea what he's talking about spiritually, or otherwise. Please borrow more money from China for more worthless wars based on lies so that my Grandchildren will be born in debt to those damn Commies. Please take away all of my civil liberties and right to privacy and habeus corpus for that matter. I hate poor people especially if they are disabled in any way. They shouldn't be given any kind of chance to survive. Just let me keep my guns so I can kill them if they get too close. I worked so hard to be born to rich parents who utilized countless social programs completely taken for granted as being such to gain their wealth, but I shouldn't ever have to give anything back. The Government has become bigger than any other in History under Republicans, but I like it when they talk about "smaller government". The insurance industry is so efficient and loves their profits that 43 million people without insurance don't mind that they're the one's running our healthcare and are rewarded for not doing their job. And I absolutely loath the Constitution and the separation of powers with every fibre in my body. All I need is a dictator who is a puppet of multi-national corporations to tell me who to hate. Vote for Bush... er.. McCain!