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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 5:36PM Thief said

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I heard Valve said that Microsoft required the update to cost MSPoints. Is this true?

Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 6:27PM (Unverified) said

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Yes it is. Gabe Newell of Valve was interviewed at the Games Convention in Germany.

Question: "Do you feel comfortable with doing console versions? To be absolutely blunt, is it purely a money thing? Or, aesthetically, does it make you happy to be able to deliver 360 versions?"

Answer: "Or we can do the Pyro updates, and the Medic updates [and so on]. On the consoles, they want us to charge money for them, because that’s in their model, and our model is very much more to grow the community by giving out free updates. That’s harder for us."

Source: http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/08/21/gc08-one-on-one-with-valves-gabe-newell/
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 5:39PM Zertoss said

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This reminds me, the internet is at it again with the Heavy update. They've made a replacement model for the sandvich that is a baby.

And I'm going straight to hell for laughing at it.

Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 5:46PM (Unverified) said

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It would be a lot more funny with Scout's stiff body.

Also, you forgot to add "Naked Peach Brigade" to your name.Mess up again and Samfish will have you killed...and raped...in that order....
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 5:49PM Thief said

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she's wearing a ballgag and rope... so she's not naked... right?
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 5:56PM (Unverified) said

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It appears to be tied round her tits so the rest is completely naked.Zertoss, can you provide a reference picture for us to decide?
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 5:57PM Thief said

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yes... this is for science!
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 5:57PM Zertoss said

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I didn't forget to add it. I'm just not going to.
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 7:04PM Zertoss said

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Damn, those two replies weren't there when I last posted. My last post was aimed at Jakka's first reply.

As for the second, yes, I have a pic, and yes, she is quite naked. If you really want to see it, I suggest you pay Google a visit.

Rule 34, my friends.
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 5:42PM (Unverified) said

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Where as the PC gaming community hasn't stopped playing.

Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 5:43PM (Unverified) said

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http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time

Sorry to break it for ya, but by the time Valve is read, this will become a mega-update that includes unlocks for each class.

Oh, and WOOT! for all 360 TF2 Players!

Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 6:01PM (Unverified) said

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Now if only they didn't hate the PS3 so much.

Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 6:02PM (Unverified) said

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They don't have any control over the PS3 Version of TF2.
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 6:04PM (Unverified) said

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This game is stupid. The people who play it are stupid. Valve fans are members of a brainless cult, and nothing proves it more than this idiotic update. I thought the rave over the completely mediocre, boring Portal was the lowest Valve fanboys could go ... but now we have online sandwich eating.

Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 6:07PM Thief said

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Awww, aren't you just the cutest little thing!
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 6:10PM Vegeta has a ps3 said

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What Vegeta heard:

YEAH MAN EVERYTHING IS STUPID!!!! I'm an edgy and totally in your face 12 year old who hates that game you like. Now excuse me, it's tiime to get back to mah Haloz.
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 6:14PM Shmil said

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make sure to drink your milk and eat your veggies
that way you can grow up to be a big strong troll
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 6:17PM (Unverified) said

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I'd like to retract my previous statement.

Current Count of People Who Dislike TF2: 1

Also guys and especially Vegeta, why the fuck are you feeding him? Report,-1 and move on instead of giving this whore attention.
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 6:27PM WiNGSPANTT from TopTierTacticsco said

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People with Naked Peach avatars don't get to call other people "attention WHORES."
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 6:31PM (Unverified) said

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...shap
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 6:57PM (Unverified) said

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Now tell us how you really feel.
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 7:22PM Obienator said

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Going for another ban, eh? Some children never learn...
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 8:49PM Haggard said

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Oh man, I feel your pain. I too despise completely free content.

Why aren't they charging us $10 for packs of 4 maps? It's damned outrageous.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2008 12:55AM Gwr said

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Succes!

Oh and btw...I hate MS.Valve wants content to be free and could just deliver now but because of MS they have to charge and cant work correctly.

I am a console gamer overall but I love the freedom developers have on the PC.
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 7:02PM (Unverified) said

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A little too late Valve I mean me and my 8 friends keep playing it but you have to admit that if you don't keep things Fresh they all rot especially in consoles.Communities die in an accelerating rate in consoles especially with Gears 2 coming.

I would pay for it yeah but what is the point if the place is empty.I might move on to the PC version but as the time passes that idea seems more and more unlikely.

Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 8:02PM (Unverified) said

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It's much easier to update things on the PC because Microsoft doesn't have a big hand in it; Valve can update TF2 whenever they're ready and don't have to deal with any kind of certification process.

Also, keep in mind Valve has a tendency to take a long time doing anything, whether it's patches or games. It's a small company with a large attention to quality and detail.
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 8:50PM Haggard said

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You also have no idea how much fun you're missing without the ability to play custom maps. There's some ridiculous yet usually amazing gameplay to be had; and every time I boot up TF2 I can play a map I've never seen before.
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2008 3:39PM (Unverified) said

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Now would be the time to check it out - free TF2 weekend on Steam.
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 7:03PM (Unverified) said

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What's this about? Don't they release free updates sometimes? Burnout for example.

"Valve Bringing Team Fortress 2 Updates to Xbox 360, Being Forced to Charge Gamers"

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/54351

Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 7:14PM (Unverified) said

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I could be wrong but maybe is for all the space it will take to host it I mean we are talking about all the updates.

Now that they could do it in small chunks then update the game more often.

I don’t know if they are being forced or they are trying to get in to the wonderful world of the Microtransactions but hey at least is there.

Now that what should I do? Buy the update to play it with probably a handful of people? or play the PC version in which I doubt I could get the Medic and Pyro achievements now that everyone is doing the Heavy achievements and it gets worst for the newbies the older it gets. The PC version could probably last years but it will become more and more unfriendly for newcomers.
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 7:06PM (Unverified) said

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Maybe you aren't a good Spy, I backstabbed 14 in a row once.

Everyone was so paranoid half their team went Pyro and needless to say the soldiers in my team were pretty thankful for my services to the team.

Now that I rarely sap sentries, some people can pull off the whole stab sap thing but with me is random luck to the point I rather hunt down the Engineer and then sap the sentry or I just go Sniper/Medic/Heavy hunting.

Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 7:16PM Ringot said

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Well it's good and all that they will do this, but, tbh, its always gonna be best played on a PC.

Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 8:21PM (Unverified) said

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TBH?
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 8:22PM (Unverified) said

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Nevermind,To be Honest right?

I don't know why I keep forgeting the meaning of certain Acronyms.
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Posted: Aug 22nd 2008 9:01PM alexmlowgmailcom said

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I thought the publisher decides the price of DLC, not Microsoft? Isn't that why Gears of War's DLC whas 10 bucks?

Posted: Aug 23rd 2008 10:51AM Starcade said

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FINALLY!

Regarding this is better played on the PC, I would have to disagree. I'm a huge fan on the console version, and had never played the PC version. I picked up the PC version after the medic update and although the maps were different (Which is cool), I felt the control just wasn't as tight. Not to mention those playing snipers were ridiciously good at picking me off and soon as I spawned (NOT FUN). Some maps are a little too open. Anyway, I much prefer the console version and welcome the updates there. Having played that version first and gotten used to the controls, for some reason it just feels better. And as far as players there, I've yet to never find anyone online to play a game. It's always busy anytime of the day.

Posted: Aug 23rd 2008 9:19PM (Unverified) said

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nick, I agree with you 100%.

I'd like to add, the tf2 360 community is great. COD4 by comparison, is full of whiney English twats who seem to always be drunk and shout abuse at you at every occasion.

I like the Americans, in general, I have a great online time talking to my USA friends.

GO USA!!!!
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Posted: Aug 23rd 2008 9:17PM (Unverified) said

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FUCK YEAH!!!!

At last.

1600 points? I'd pay it!!!!

16000 points? Yeah. I'd pay that too.

For me, tf2 is THE best online multiplayer fps there is. Yeah, the 360 version is nerf'd somewhat but hey, I'd rather play it on my 50" lcd than my 24" pc lcd screen.

GO VALVE!

Posted: Aug 24th 2008 4:19AM (Unverified) said

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You can hook a PC up to your 50" LCD..
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Posted: Sep 9th 2008 9:31PM (Unverified) said

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I love the console version because the controls feel more natural than the PC... Not to mention you would have to shell out some serious cash for an UBER-PC to run tf 2 well.

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