Sony doubtful about future exclusivity with publishers

That's it! MGS4 is so confirmed for 360.

Uh-oh?

Good thing Sony has been cultivating their internal studios then.

Some companies do things differently and they remind me of goverments selling real estate and buildings only to hire them right back at astronomical prices, just to be in the black at the end of the year, not giving a shit about a few years later down the line.

But then some companies have deep, deep pockets.

"You all are abuot to get f*cked by the long dick of the law."

Uhoh as in Uhoh Joystiq is using the old uncanny screenshots which means 25% of the people who saw this post have gone insane by the time I type this.

*sob* I was too late.

If anyone were to snap up Level-5, it would be Square Enix, since they make the new Dragon Quests

Level-5 also did Nintendo's Professor Layton for the DS

I don't think Sony can snap up Level-5, because believe it or not, they have been a lot more succesful on Nintendo platforms than with Sony.

Just watch the high reviews and sales of Professor Layton and the Curious Village, Pandora's Box and Inazuma Eleven. And they are currently developing another entry in the P. Layton series...

... and of course, Dragon Quest IX. All those games for the Nintendo DS.

"Level-5 also did Nintendo's Professor Layton for the DS"

Professor Layton is a Level-5 IP...they have the rights, and they were the ones that published it on Japan, Nintendo is only publishing it in NA

Fernando,

"I don't think Sony can snap up Level-5, because believe it or not, they have been a lot more succesful on Nintendo platforms than with Sony."

Its not that they were more successful, its just that those titles themselves were already famous series (aside from Professor Layton)

Also out of all their new IPs, most of them are Sony funded ones...

White Knight Chronicles
Professor Layton Series
Rogue Galaxy
Dark Cloud series
Jeanne d'Arc

You want to note their success with Nintendo, I want to note the freedom that they have been given with Sony

If Sony doesn't already own them, how would they have been given more freedom from Sony? As long as none of the console manufacturers own them, they are free to do whatever they want, and put games on whatever platform works for them.

fair enough Fernando. to be honest, Sony doesn't really need to acquire Level-5, since they have a solid enough working relationship as it is. i just don't want Microsoft getting its hands on Level-5 (kinda tired of Microsoft buying up everything); but given the animosity the two have with each other over True Fantasy Live Online, i seriously doubt we'll ever see Microsoft and Level-5 working together.

so, here's to Sony snapping up Quantic Dreams and Media Molecule ;-)

They have had more success on nintendo systems, but the better games were on sony systems. Now make Dark Cloud 3 please.

Well... Dragon Quest IX will be enough to surpass any Sony game that they have done.

Nope, sorry.

Sorry, but yes.

are you talking sales, or quality Fernando? DQVIII still holds the crown as the highest-selling launch in Japan to date (if i'm not mistaking). DS' install base isn't quite where PS2's was when DQVIII released. now, if you're talking quality, well then, views of quality are subjective. personally i'm looking forward to WKC more than DQIX, but that's me. Dark Cloud 3 would also trump DQIX in my book...but again, that's just me. i'm sure neither of these games would sell more than DQIX, but i don't care about sales.

Fernando, you're only excited because it's on the N6...I mean DS. You weren't nearly as excited for 8 I bet, seeing as it was on ps2 and whatnot.

It's just another mediocre handheld game, yawn. Move along.

Ah, I apologize Marty, I should have been more specific, what I meant by freedom is the fact that Sony has been funding their projects yet has not put any sort of restriction over their content or tried to impose anything.

That is something hard to come by, but lately many companies have been following that trend such as EA, but previously to me it seemed only 2 companies did, Capcom and after some time, Sony.

Giving devs who make exclusive games preferential treatment is the same thing as straight-up paying for exclusives themselves.

Indeed. It's just kind of hilarious to see "we don't pay for 3rd party exclusives" followed by "we're going to have less 3rd party exclusives because it's getting too expensive to keep them exclusive".

What they really should have said from the get-go, instead of "we don't pay for 3rd party exclusives" is "we do a sly job of hiding the way we pay for 3rd party exclusives".

Wait...

How did you spin what he said into what you spun it into?

Personally, I don't see how you go from the lead designer completely denying it to a virtual confirmation, but... I guess I've seen stranger things.

I'm not spinning anything. It's straight from the man's mouth.

He's saying that exclusivity from publishers is a thing of the past right?

Well my question is why does he think that? Furthermore I disagree with him.

There are plenty of companies who are willing to make 360 exclusives because MS has a system that the masses enjoy unlike sony.

Bottom line is that if the ps3 were doing as good as it should be doing given the ridiculous success of the ps2 then sony wouldn't be bitching about exclusive this and exclusive that.

I think FFXIII was pretty much the nail in the coffin for sony this generation. sony fanboys can scream all they want to about Uncharted, preach to the high heavens how LBP is the 2nd Coming of Jesus Christ but the truth of the matter is that there are some core sony franchises that people associate with sony that have steadily defected to the 360 (and in some cases the Wii as well) over the last few years.

Games like R&C, MGS4, FFXIII, and God of War are the main staples of the playstation brand.

Now of course God of War isn't going anywhere and ultimately I might get a ps3 just for that game depending of it ps2 backwards compatibility is magically worked back into the system. And FFXIII is already CONFIRMED for the 360 so that's not a compelling reason to get a ps3 anymore for me.

In short what I'm trying to say is that when people say the ps3 has "no games" it's nto really that big a stretch. Yeah there a few decent titles on the system but nothing that screams, "DO WANT"

That's just my opinion on the whole thing though. I've got a Wii and Brawl is in itself worthy of the money I put down for it but even up to this VERY MOMENT I haven't found a single game on ps3 that makes me want to go out and spend money for it.

"There are plenty of companies who are willing to make 360 exclusives because MS has a system that the masses enjoy unlike sony."
What the hell? Plenty of people enjoy PS3's, myself included. I also enjoy my xbox 360 and my wii, but I play my PS3 the most. If you want to be taken seriously, it helps not to say dumb stuff like that.

"Now of course God of War isn't going anywhere"
God of War 3 was announced at E3. For more information, Wikipedia is your friend:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_of_War_III

"I think FFXIII was pretty much the nail in the coffin for sony this generation."

Only time will tell, but I doubt it. I wasn't planning on buying FFXIII, and I still won't. I'm just not that into JRPGs. I know a lot of people who have XBOX 360s, and they don't even know anything about FFXIII, and they won't buy it. I don't think that the announcement of FFXIII going multiplatform will have too much lasting effects on anything but the hardcore crowd.

For a second there, I thought you said "defecated over to the 360."

@Azure
I'm going to start this by saying that this is a gaming site. The purpose is to give your opinions. So you are entitled to yours. And any opinion, if you can back it up is, to me, valid. But you have to do the same. You say there is nothing on PS3 that makes it really worth you going out and getting the system. But, for you, Smash Bros makes a Wii worth the price of admission. And that's fine. But me and others would disagree. Smash never was for me. And while the idea of innovation was enough to get me into the Wii craze at first, I've since sold it and the 10 games I had for it, as none of them were worth keeping the system, and my family got tired of it pretty fast. But for me, some of the games you mentioned-R&C, Uncharted, MGS4, and Mass Effect, Lost Odyssey for 360 make those systems worthwhile--again, for me. But to say that publishers make games for 360 because it appeals to the masses is not entirely true. In the end, these are businesses. They go where the money is at, and Microsoft is more willing to compensate for exclusives than Sony. Sony took the route of trying to develop more in house to maintain exlusives in that aspect rather than pay. Time will tell if that was a good move, but it makes some amount of sense to me. Nintendo doesn't really have to pay for the exclusives because the Wii is so popular and the specs are so much lower than the other 2 systems that developers still have to really seperate development for Wii games. What's the point of this rambling post? Only that all the consoles have different things to offer for different people depending on tastes, and it's foolish of you to say Sony bitches about exclusivity because it has a bad system.

You don't know when to give up huh? How many times have you been banned already?

"There are plenty of companies who are willing to make 360 exclusives because MS has a system that the masses enjoy unlike sony"

Unlike? so you mean that over 10 million customers is nothing?...ok

There are 2 reasons why I would see a company willing to make a 360 exclusive

a) they want money and MS has deep pockets...
b) the company wants to focus on just one game and their concept is with the 360 in mind

"Christ but the truth of the matter is that there are some core sony franchises that people associate with sony that have steadily defected to the 360 (and in some cases the Wii as well) over the last few years."

Most of the franchises that people associate to PS still with PS...yes, I know that some have gone exclusively to other systems, but you also make it seem as that those that are multiplatform are not available for the PS3, which isn't true (e.g. FFXIII, GTA4, etc)

its just premature asshat ... move along nothing to see here ... you can always tell by his anti ps3 tirades and the fact his screen names never have spaces ... idiot

actually , sony would trump MS ..... easily , if every other department helped .

@Phantom

Afraid not. MS has a lot more cash on hand than Sony. The electronics market often has thin profit margins whereas MS and their OS and office software business has fat profit margins with all the ridulously priced software and bank breaking licensing.

Microsoft by far.. has more money than SONY.. hell, the whole thing where they went to court was funny as hell.. They have more money than the Government, and were going to outlast them until the Govt. went broke.

hmm, this was meant as a reply to AlterEgo's comment.

Caught it, and I believe that may have been the case.

"This, coming from the company who just flushed all their PS2 profits down the drain with the PS3."

You mean a company reinvested it's profits...wow.

Also, how about you go back and read that article again because your statement is incorrect. http://www.joystiq.com/2008/08/19/the-sony-reciprocal-ps3-losses-surpass-ps2-profits/

Reinvesting - converting profits into a new product line for additional future profits. Doesn't involve generating negative company value.

Losses - Selling what you just reinvested into for less than what it costs to make.

Big difference in reinvesting and what Sony does.

Orly? So the whole 3DO concept was a great idea after all?

You mean like the 3DO?