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Posted: Sep 4th 2008 10:17AM Endjin said

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Have they made it possible to transfer data from one hard drive to another yet?
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:10PM xThePunisherx said

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Not without completely erasing the other's memory.

This cut seems pretty desperate to be honest. I wonder if it will work.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:14PM Vidikron said

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That's always been possible. There's a transfer kit that allows this. The problem is that I think the transfer kit only comes with the 120 GB upgrade. So if you're actually buying an Elite to replace another system you won't get the kit and will have to find it elsewhere(eBay, forum, etc...).
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:16PM Dirty said

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the 120 hard drive comes with a cable...
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:18PM Vidikron said

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I think MS may also provide the kit online (for free, I think), but IIRC they ask for information about both your new and old system, so you'll have to have both systems before you can get one. Which kind of sucks since you'll lkely want to transfer right away when you get the new system. In that case you're better off just buying the kit from someone else in advance.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:27PM Vcize said

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That is correct Vid. If you provide them with the serial # of both the old console and the new one they'll send you the transfer kit for free.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:48PM Dirty said

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Is it the console or just the hard drive that you need the serials from.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 6:04PM (Unverified) said

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it's possible if you're technically inclined. Do some searches, you'll find plenty of info and the tools needed.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 6:05PM Vidikron said

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If you want the free transfer kit I think you need the serials from both systems, not the hard drives.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 6:06PM Anticrawl said

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Worthy to note Microsoft will send out data cables to anyone who does not already have one. One can only transfer from a drive of the same size or up to a larger one. So 20-20, 20-120, and 120-120 work just fine. There is a small chance of data corruption, but when it does happen it is usually of game data from early games or older gamer pictures. You will need to reset all your console settings and if you opted out of ads when making the switch to the 360 you will now recieve ads on your dashboard, but only half of the time. Each drive is only able to transfer once as well until there is a hack available to remove the tiny security file embeded on the old drive/new drive after the transfer.

That is all.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 6:53PM (Unverified) said

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The_Punisher

How is it desperate if their main console is still $299.00, 3 years after its launch?

This is a very good move by MS and WILL indeed get 360's flying off the shlf again. Especially once Gears2 and this years Holiday gets in full swing.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 7:30PM (Unverified) said

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@ Vidikron (FU)

I like your avatar.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 7:48PM (Unverified) said

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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:09PM Keithustus said

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Nice...a new price cut every month or two? By Xmas '09 they might be affordable.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:18PM Huey2k2 said

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You can't afford $300?

And you play video games?

You need to find a new hobby.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:23PM PezHead said

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If you really can't afford it, just get Gov. Palin to earmark a little for you :P
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:25PM Duke said

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If those are not affordable than I think you are asking for too much. The cheapest console of this generation is the Arcade above, then the Wii. So I doubt you will see one at a price point you like for a long time.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 6:17PM Keithustus said

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By affordable, I mean I want to connect four or five of them in the same house. Kind of annoying to attempt at $300 or more per box.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 6:56PM Otimus said

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"Affordable" is $200 for the "real" version of a system.

That's how it's always been, and the overpriced consoles of this gen (Save for the Wii) is why this gen is such a slum. Well, one of the reasons.

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1) Should have only been SKU for everyone
2) The PS3 and 360 both should have launched at $300, and the 360 should have hit $250 a year or so after launch, and should only now be hitting $200. The PS3 would also have to follow a similiar time scale.
3) With those things, we'd have ended up with more variety in games, more actual variations of gamers gaming, and a faster adoption of consoles in the next gen. Instead, what we have now is massively devided bases, a ton of people sticking with the old systems, and a decently high amount, but not NEARLY as high as last gen, people going with the current gen
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 7:23PM GewurztraminerX said

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After zero interest in Microsoft's consoles since the first XBox I suddenly find myself wondering if I should go for the Arcade + a Hard Drive or go straight for the 60G.

hm. odd.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 7:39PM Gamer X said

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@ Otimus

Are you kidding? In an ideal world that would be nice... but you can't have it both ways. New technology costs lots of money. These consoles (aside from wii) were already losing money out of the gate. How are you suggesting such cheap prices. Price is not ALL about the consumer.. companies have to make money as well in order to fund better hardware down the line. That's like asking for a lamborghini for under $15,000. Good luck with that logic.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:10PM The Fuzz 53 said

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Now, do I still buy a Linksys Media Center extender like I planned for my basement TV, or go ahead and get a 60GB Xbox, transfer all my data off my 20GB drive, and put that in the basement as a media center extender?
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:13PM 343 Guilty Fart said

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Yes.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:24PM (Unverified) said

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Agreed. That one.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 6:13PM (Unverified) said

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I wouldn't get any other extender, not when you can get a 360 for $199. That's what I was planning on doing before I decided to go with SageTV. Being able to use an old laptop as an extender is hard to touch. It's also nice having a company that works to keep up with the times, unlike MS with media center.

And if you do some searching you can find out how to copy your HD and retain all the data on the old one. It's not that difficult if you're somewhat technically inclinded and patient.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 7:07PM Courtney said

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I'm certainly thinking about a second one now, though I would probably just go with an Arcade. I always end up with some BB gift cards at Christmas...hmmmm...
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Posted: Sep 4th 2008 12:15PM Ridgecity said

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There's one called popcorn or something like that. It' way better that the linksys and you can easily change the hard drive with a little door on back.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:16PM philmcfail said

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Finally! Microsoft is moving into Nintendo's territory. Then again, it makes you wonder, will this provoke Nintendo to dropping the Wii's Price? (cuz hen it will be IMPOSSIBLE to get!)
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:18PM Dirty said

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Hope they sell the 60 separately. Or just drop the prices on their ridiculously priced hard drives. That would be nice. I mean the 120 drive is about the price of the whole system now.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:24PM dabamf said

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I think the hard drive pricing needs to be resolved pronto, especially if MS wants to promote all of the downloadable titles that they now offer.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:24PM philmcfail said

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LOL Yeah, I mean they can do another price drop but cannot lower the price of the damn harddrives?!!?!?
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:35PM mirage said

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That is my question too. As much as I love my 360, I am tired of early adopters getting screwed. Hook me up with a discounted 60 GB or 120 GB because I am NOT paying the same price for a HD as I would for a Wii or an Arcade 360.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:40PM Obienator said

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+1 Agreed 100%, why the hell does the 120GB cost almost as much as the hardware itself? Freakin' retarded!
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 10:41PM Deezul AwT said

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One Target near me had the 20GB on "clearance" for $70. If it dropped to $50, I'd just assume save the $50 from the 60GB one, get the Arcade and memory card, and put this one in the bedroom as the 3rd 360.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:20PM MC Double Def DP said

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$199 price tag will look a lot better to xmas shopping parents who don't follow which consoles have harddrives, little kids who can't wait to save up more money for more feature rich systems and to those who just want another 360 for video streaming & occasional gaming for their other TV sets.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:20PM (Unverified) said

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Just the thing for me to buy a new Xbox- gonna' get teh 1337... Next thing after that is a PS3.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:27PM Duke said

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What's this "1337" you speak of. I'm surely not elite enough to understand. Damn, you are so cool!
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:47PM Dirty said

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Are shortly after duke was struck by "teh lighnings!"
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:58PM Dirty said

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I dont know where that "are" came from... should have read

Shortly after Duke was struck by "teh lighnings"
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 6:06PM isOmetriC said

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PS3 should be first. :(
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 10:04PM (Unverified) said

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WOAH! How did I get ranked low?

I said I was going to get the Elite and next up the PS3. Sorry, but I have games for the 360 from my last one- it takes precidence... Jesus...
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:22PM Brucie B said

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Well now might be the time to upgrade to the elite since my refurb just took a dump this monday.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:22PM oteriba said

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So now is the time to buy a 360. I'm just not sure if I should get the 60 gig or the 120 one.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:28PM Haggard said

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I don't understand how the elite is twice the price. All it has is a bigger hard drive and a couple of extra A/V features?

*correct me if wrong, I know nothing about 360's*
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:39PM Vidikron said

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It also has a headset and... it's black!

Actually, it doesn't even really have any extra AV features. All the systems in store now have HDMI output, but the bigher end systems come swith more cables. Really, the pricing is rather absurd. It's all based around their ridiculous pricing for the hard drives.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/compare101.htm?WT.svl=nav
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:40PM dabamf said

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According to Amazon you get a headset, w00t! All kidding aside, the hard drive alone sells for $150...I think that's where most of the money goes.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:44PM dabamf said

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@Vidikron

1 minute faster than me with the joke...+1 well done.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:45PM Vcize said

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The 60gb comes with a headset too, doesn't it (the 20gb did)?

I think it's just the hard drive and the black color. I think it might come with a play and charge kit too, not sure on that one though.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:47PM (Unverified) said

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"The 60gb comes with a headset too, doesn't it (the 20gb did)?"

But is it black? Exactly.
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Posted: Sep 3rd 2008 5:29PM Vol said

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Arcade model: $199
120 GB hard drive: $179

< rolls eyes >

Come on MS... lower the HD price points.
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