PAX 2008: One hour with full version of Fallout 3
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We were given one hour with Fallout 3 at this year's PAX, and we don't mean some pared down, nerfed, demo-ized level; this was the full version. Not only that, but the Bethesda folks showed it to us in the tricked out Fallout 3 Airstream Trailer, complete with a nuclear family peering in.Lead designer Emil Pagliarulo started us out roughly an hour into the game, when you exit the vault for the very first time. We missed the whole "growing up" phase in order to rush right into the action. We didn't mind. but what of our first 18 or so years? Maybe you start out on the cellular level, and fight your way out in a glorious Spore/Fallout hybrid. Your guess is as good as ours.
"I tried to stop fighting everyone and just follow the quest portion of the game, but it is very, very hard not to pull that (right) trigger" |
After exiting Vault 101, we headed to Megaton, considered by Pagliarulo to be one of the smaller cities, with Rivet City being the biggest. Immediately I was struck with the fact that "Hey. this ain't Oblivion." Now, it's true that Oblivion has tons of fans, but it just never got its hooks into me.
The VATS targeting system makes it fun (and addictive) to jump into combat. I tried to stop fighting everyone and just follow the quest portion of the game, but it is very, very hard not to pull that (right) trigger. Luckily, holding X will put your weapon away. Not only does that curtail the killing fever, but it also makes you move faster.
The rest of our time was much like what we've seen since as far back as E3 2007. In a nutshell: We can disarm the nuclear bomb stuck in the middle of the city or we can blow it up. This time we destroyed it. In fact, we were quite evil the entire time, killing enough civilians pre-bomb that our Pip-Boy deemed us "Evil." No children, however, as they'll run away while every nearby adult friendly to them will come after you.
Gallery: Fallout 3
That said, you don't have to kill anything to beat the game. Almost. Said Pagliarulo, "I don't want to make a blanket statement and say entire game, but a good part of it, several portions." He said one tester beat the game by killing only the rat roach at the beginning. Protip: If you go this route, raise your sneak and science skills -- let other people fight for you and hire mercenaries.
Some other notes from our talk with Pagliarulo:
- The team went back and forth on the concept of karma (i.e. the measure of good vs. evil), ultimately deciding to consider it a universal force, meaning no one has to see you be evil to affect your karma. You can still commit crimes without getting caught, however.
- We were able to try picking locks using a bobby pin and a screwdriver. Unlike Oblivion, you can't pick every lock with a low-skilled character. According to Pagliarulo, a higher skill level is required for some of the necessary tools.
- While you can wear any clothes you find in the game, they will not serve as disguises (i.e. no one will confuse you for a doctor while dressed in a lab coat). Pagliarulo explained there would be too much extra dialogue to record.
- Kudos for the indulgent use of Vault Boy when and wherever possible, especially with the item icons and perks.
- You can choose your characters' race (i.e. African-American, Asian, Caucasion, Spanish, etc.); it will have no effect on the skill set.
- In addition to Liam Neeson and Ron Perlman, you can expect to enjoy Malcolm MacDowell's voice as the President. Not including written text, there are over 40,000 lines of dialogue.
- On the topic of sex. "We haven't pushed the limits with sex," said Pagliarulo. "We found that the whole adult content thing, we knew we'd have crazy over-the-top violence and have kids in the game, and dealing with attacking them." Pagliarulo cited Mass Effect as a game where it was important to the story. In Fallout 3, he said, he didn't want to make sex "a joke and cheesy," much like excessive profanity (a lot was cut out, apparently). "The closest you come to any of that is renting a room and [a woman] sleeps next to you. It's implication." That happens for either gender.
- There are characters you can infer are gay. "We don't make a big deal out of it," he said. "To us, they're people."
- Here's an SAT analogy. Computers : Fallout 3 :: Books : Oblivion.
- For more, check out our interview with Executive Producer Todd Howard.
Kevin Kelly contributed hands-on impressions for this feature.











Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)
SuperGayParade @ Sep 4th 2008 10:08AM
By the time I "finish" Oblivion this game will be cheap!
Professor Lario @ Sep 4th 2008 10:31AM
As much as I want Fallout, I guess I feel the same way. I have a great game, Oblivion, that I haven't finished yet. I need to get crack'n!
Microswirl (MKWii:1676- 4270-3674) @ Sep 4th 2008 3:34PM
Not sure it's even possible to "finish" Oblivion. I already did all the Guild Quests, Main Quest, and Shivering Isles... still gotta do that Knights of the Nine thing, but even after that there's like 80 bajillion little quests. I quess I'll quit once I reach level 50.
Mr.ESC @ Sep 4th 2008 4:31PM
I haven't even finished the main quest.
I just beat the Arena.
t_m @ Sep 4th 2008 10:48PM
I still haven't finished Morrowind!!
I've had oblivion for almost 2 years now, and haven't even gotten around to installing it yet. sigh.
Drago Dracini @ Sep 12th 2008 8:44PM
Actually, once you even get halfway to "finishing" Oblivion you'll realize "Wow... Why is this game so bad?"
Gombard @ Sep 4th 2008 10:11AM
I guess if he was shown to be born it could be a mini game or something. Fallout of the vagina? ;) Shoot me.
Titanium_Orchid @ Sep 4th 2008 1:43PM
Nicely played sir. +1
AwesomeTown @ Sep 4th 2008 10:18AM
This game cannot come fast enough.
WRE @ Sep 4th 2008 10:35AM
After reading this preview, neither can I.
Doug @ Sep 6th 2008 11:34PM
It's here. THE ORIGINAL Fallout 3 http://www.nma-fallout.com/forum/dload.php?action=file&file_id=892
Enjoy.
Stockpile @ Sep 4th 2008 10:28AM
So, what is the game like? You said what you do but are we looking at a game like oblivion just set in a different time, or maybe something completely all together? For playing a whole hour you did a lot of bullet points on what was known, not enough on actual gameplay...
Jody Anthony (gamertag and psn: JodyAnthony) @ Sep 4th 2008 10:30AM
i have been replaying fallout 2 in preperation.
i cannot wait for this game.
Bad Mojo @ Sep 4th 2008 10:38AM
So initially, I dismissed this as another FPS (Resistance/GOW) clone and skipped all the press on it.
For those keeping up, is this more along the lines of Oblivion (note: I skipped the current gen version)then?
If it is, sign me the hell up!!! I'd love something with the scope and scale of Oblivion, but fresher.
What say the anticipating fans?
Amoveo @ Sep 4th 2008 5:31PM
Fallout 3 is not a first person shooter, but rather a first person RPG like Oblivion. It will have guns and you can play it in real-time, but you can also use VATS to stop time and play it more like a turn-based RPG. Think Kotor where you can pause things and choose actions, but sometimes you have to run around and hit buttons.
Looks like GotY to me.
Fenix @ Sep 4th 2008 10:38AM
Ross
Did you get to play it on 360 or PC? Any bugs? I'm very excited about this game. Ever since the onstage live E3 demo.
Ross Miller @ Sep 4th 2008 11:44AM
I personally didn't play it this time, it was Kevin Kelly (note the contribution clause at the end of the post). He took the controller while I interviewed Emil and watched Kevin play. However, I have played it before (all times we've seen it have been on Xbox 360) and the controllers are a smarter variant of Oblivion. Everything's mapped out the same, and then you've got the VATS system triggered with a click. The improvements over Oblivion are really gameplay-wise and atmosphere-wise.
Fenix @ Sep 4th 2008 11:55AM
Sweet, thanks!
http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn190/kazukamichan/dowant.gif
XLM @ Sep 4th 2008 10:39AM
"Kudos for the indulgent use of Vault Boy when and wherever possible, especially with the item icons and perks."
Over indulgent if you ask me...
They seem intent on slapping him here, there and everywhere, almost as if he was some sort of artwork that they acquired the rights to to say "hey look, we're still Fallout"....
Oh wait.
Bertz @ Sep 4th 2008 11:29AM
Well considering that Vault Boy was used quite a bit in Fallout 1 and 2, I'd say they are keeping the tradition alive. So the "Oh look, we're still fallout" comment is pretty weak. But you are entitled to your opinion.
XLM @ Sep 4th 2008 12:51PM
there's quite a bit, and then there is overused...
and quite a bit in F1 and F2? when using the Pip and picking perks and that, not plastered on every inch of the website, bobbleheaded, lunch boxed (yes please), puppeted, etc.
Trust me I'm all over this, there's just a overload of VB and I do think that Bethesda has pimped him too much.
and you're right... it is nothing more than my opinion. Thanks for the level headed response. +1
XLM @ Sep 4th 2008 12:51PM
there's quite a bit, and then there is overused...
and quite a bit in F1 and F2? when using the Pip and picking perks and that, not plastered on every inch of the website, bobbleheaded, lunch boxed (yes please), puppeted, etc.
Trust me I'm all over this, there's just a overload of VB and I do think that Bethesda has pimped him too much.
and you're right... it is nothing more than my opinion. Thanks for the level headed response. +1
Ranus Studios @ Sep 4th 2008 10:46AM
This has piqued my interest. I never played Oblivion, and this seems intriguing enough for me to invest in. Probably the first of a few games I'll be buying this season.
Vegnagun bwf @ Sep 4th 2008 11:17AM
Obvious first day buy.
Kevin @ Sep 4th 2008 11:23AM
The games seem to have perfect timing (for me at least):
- Spore on Sunday
- Fallout 3 on October 28th
- Mirror's Edge on November 11th
- Left 4 Dead on November 18th
Hooray for personal preferences lining up perfectly with release dates.
DudeRed @ Sep 4th 2008 1:55PM
I think Left 4 Dead is coming out on the 20th, a Thursday, instead of that Tuesday.
Doug @ Sep 6th 2008 11:34PM
You forgot Bioshock, August 29, 2009. CONFIRMED.
emagius @ Sep 4th 2008 11:24AM
So, in Fallout 3 "African-American" and "Spanish" are "ethnicities" the same way "Asian" and "Caucasian" are?
Ninjakamster (PS360 FTW!) @ Sep 4th 2008 12:54PM
Too bad the game has no connections to the previous games storywise like Fallout 2 did to the original, I hope Bethesda does a good job on this IP! : )
Game dude @ Sep 4th 2008 12:59PM
I don't know why you didn't put the PS3 in the "filed under" tags. It's obviously coming out for the PS3 too. I thought there was no bias here? xD
Zach S @ Sep 4th 2008 1:41PM
Awkward typos: "Caucasion" is spelled "caucaSIAN" and generally, the term isn't "Spanish" it's "Hispanic." Just figured I'd, uh, point out those corrections.
Also, the notes at bottom were fantastic!! Actually better than some of the walkthroughs I've read.
jhrf89 @ Sep 4th 2008 1:44PM
I can feel my hype sensors tingling....
colin @ Sep 4th 2008 8:07PM
i'm getting a raging clue
Jesse @ Sep 4th 2008 3:14PM
Computers are to Fallout 3 as books are to Oblivion? With this kind of reasoning, I think someone scored less than 400 on their verbals...
Carlos @ Sep 4th 2008 7:24PM
I read to this to mean you will get skill increases by using computers, as we got skill increases by reading books in Oblivion. 1370 SAT score for me! lol.. Just a guess tho.
riaden @ Sep 4th 2008 5:42PM
explain to me wat do u mean are African Americans and Hispanics the same as Asians and Caucasian wat kind of question is that why would they me any differnt
TheKingpin @ Sep 4th 2008 6:00PM
Has anyone heard of the system requirement specs yet?
I'm not sure my processor (of all things) will make the cut, it already won't work for Far Cry 2... =\
Miller @ Sep 4th 2008 7:11PM
One Xbox360 or PS3. *scnr*
JohnHeist @ Sep 6th 2008 3:06AM
What's a "system spec"?
Paul @ Sep 7th 2008 5:00PM
I was watching the gamplay videos from the marketplace and the first video was the very beginning of the game and you were leaving the vault, no little kid-ness. Then you customized your character and so on. So my guess is that you are never a kid in this game, sorry all you zelda fans.
True Valk @ Sep 9th 2008 5:29AM
Im down for this game, come out already.