No curse, but Madden 09 has bugs

by James Ransom-Wiley { Sep 5th 2008 at 8:30PM }

With the NFL regular season just barely underway, there's plenty of time for the Madden Curse to sink its hooks into Mr. Favre's vulnerable ankle, but for now, EA is busy squashing a host of bugs that have crawled out of the bowels of latest edition of Madden. The major pest is a freezing issue that can crop up during play calling and highlight screens, reports IGN. Senior designer Ian Cummings has documented most, if not all known bugs on the game's Producer Blog, recommending various workarounds while the team puts together a patch. EA is targeting "less than a 3 week turnaround" from last Tuesday for the update to be released. So put a big checkmark next to the 16th and cross your fingers.

Tags: bugs, ea, ea-sports, madden, madden-09, madden-nfl-09

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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 1)

hunter @ Sep 5th 2008 8:57PM

well, thus is the piece of garbage that ea so kindly took away from the p.c. yard. now i see that we pc users should thak them for not stealing our money with a game that is exactly the same as the last ones but with more bugs, way to go e.a. i just hope console users start to think twice before they use their cash in something as crappy as this game....

Top Cat @ Sep 5th 2008 9:01PM

Grammar Monkey, I choose you!

Grammar Monkey, use Face Gnaw!

Draco @ Sep 5th 2008 9:41PM

oh my word....

you aren't joking Top Cat

Isaac @ Sep 6th 2008 12:40AM

You give a bad name to PC gamers.

We may be snobs that look down on consoles but at we have good grammar.

Also everyone knows that sports games suck with a mouse and keyboard.

KeenCommander @ Sep 5th 2008 8:43PM

I'd like to think Joystiq readers don't still buy Madden. I know damned well I'm wrong, but can't I at least dream?

Red Leader @ Sep 5th 2008 8:57PM

I can't believe people are still buying Madden.

Vcize @ Sep 6th 2008 12:55AM

To be fair, if there was one Madden game worth buying in the last 4 years, it was this year's. It is far and away the largest step up they've taken from one year to the next in a long time.

Draco @ Sep 5th 2008 8:57PM

Does this affect the PS3 and 360 versions the same?

juju187 @ Sep 5th 2008 8:57PM

A Ea game thats buggy?
No way you guyz are teh haterz...>..>

Drew @ Sep 5th 2008 9:20PM

What? The Jets aren't a part of the curse?

Ian @ Sep 5th 2008 9:58PM

For reals. I think being on the Jets is the Madden Curse for Bertt Favre. Yes Bertt. If Favre = Farve, then Bertt = Brett.

jeff @ Sep 5th 2008 10:13PM

agreed. This whole farve debacle counts in my book as a cover curse.

BigD145 @ Sep 5th 2008 9:29PM

You'd think after a bajillion of these that they would have no bugs by now.

Ralph @ Sep 5th 2008 10:17PM

Is every game released a beta test on the end users? What happened to Q/A testing? This must be why it takes Nintendo forever to release their decent games. They really test them thoroughly due to the lack of a way to patch Wii games.

Wiinterfang @ Sep 5th 2008 11:22PM

What with all those EA games with bugs, are the EA debuggers on a strike?

Anthony @ Sep 6th 2008 12:51AM

Not to give EA a excuse, but Madden has a very short production window. 11 months isn't nearly long enough to put together a checkers game much less a football game.

Aj Collins @ Sep 6th 2008 12:52AM

On Strike? More like never existed. :P

Rabidkeebler @ Sep 6th 2008 12:04AM

Is it me, or have a lot of games from EA been really buggy as of late (NCAA, Merc2, and now Madden?) C'mon EA, at least pretend like you give a sht.

Wiinterfang @ Sep 6th 2008 12:17AM

Your not the only one, you though about that while reading my post.

Virtuous @ Sep 6th 2008 12:36AM

These days gamers should hold off on buying titles until after the first patch has been released.

juju187 @ Sep 6th 2008 1:07AM

if and when...

FSK405K @ Sep 6th 2008 7:06AM

In other words, shop for console games like PC gamers do.

mj @ Sep 6th 2008 7:46AM

This year Favre cursed Madden! Out of date cover! Savvy veteran move!

btw, who thinks they change the name when Madden finally kicks it? Anyone?

glody @ Sep 6th 2008 9:09AM

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VinceMig @ Sep 6th 2008 10:39AM

Unplayable game and its the third year in a row Franchise doesn't work. This article was posted on the EA Forums
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Madden NFL 09: Glitches and freezing issues

The MADDEN NFL series is the best-selling football game series of all time, reaching a milestone of 20 years (1989-2009). Before the latest Madden NFL game was released on August 12, 2008, EA launched an advertising scheme (commercials, trailers, teasers), depicting how great the gameplay would be and how fans would be satisfied. Due to its 20th year anniversary, the publicity was robust like never before, causing many loyal fans to salivate and await its arrival. But did EA bring the goods with Madden NFL 09? Absolutely not! Not only did EA not deliver the goods, but EA delivered a game filled with glitches and freezing issues.

With many problems found by consumers during the first week of its release, consumers started venting out their frustration on many Internet video game forums and YouTube. Learning of the complaints, EA said it would investigate the issue and provide a patch (e.g., “patch 1” ).

On August 26, 2008, EA published an article-like blog by Ian Cummings (Senior Designer, Madden NFL 2010) on its site, titled “Two Weeks of Madden NFL 09,” explaining how “patch 2” will remedy some problems. This article is facetiously interesting and will be heavily quoted herein.

The most important issue (i.e., the freezing bug) will be addressed in the latter, while other glitches are addressed early on.

LOS LIMIT
The line of scrimmage (LOS) limit is useless during gameplay. The quarterback can scramble from the backfield while being pressured, pass the line of scrimmage and complete a pass to his receiver without any penalty. More devastating to the defense is this: the defensive back (DB) breaks coverage and leave the receiver wide open, causing the QB to complete a deep pass.

To combat this glitch, Senior Designer Cummings states: “We addressed this by making sure the DB will no longer break on the ball when the QB crosses the line while throwing.”

This means that the QB crossing the line of scrimmage (even though it is a violation/penalty) will remain in the gameplay, while the defensive back stay with his man and not break coverage.

USELESS PLAYER RATINGS
This glitch is perhaps the most disheartening glitch during gameplay. Players’ ratings are put in the game for a reason and expected to have an impact and mean something, but they do not mean anything. EA developers added the ratings for the hell of it and for show – knowing they will be useless on the field and hoping gamers would not realize its uselessness. There have been many instances where QBs run over defenders and dishrag them around as if the defenders are Barbie Dolls. During a game against the New York Jets, QB Chad Pennington trucks DE Jason Taylor and then MLB Channing Crowder, and was later gang tackled. Such nonsense like this does not happen in real life and never would; it’s impossible, especially against DE Taylor.

To show how useless and unrealistic the players’ ratings are, three of these players will be evaluated. Because there are so many attributes, only the important ones will be mentioned: Overall, Strength, Trucking, and Tackle.

QB Chad Pennington’s (6’3”/255 LBS) ratings: Overall: 81; Strength: 49; Trucking: 40; Tackle: 14.

DE Jason Taylor’ s (6’6”/260 LBS) ratings: Overall: 98; Strength: 77; Trucking 10; Tackle: 80.

MLB Channing Crowder’s (6’2”/242 LBS) ratings: Overall: 85; Strength: 77; Trucking: 10; Tackle: 89.

The disparity in Jason’s and Crowder’s trucking compared to Pennington’s is fickle and quite funny. How can a QB have a better trucking attribute than defensive players? Moreover, how could the strength of both Taylor and Crowder have no ability to render a tackle when their strengths are higher? Quarterbacks are not known for their trucking ability because they don’t truck. When QBs break the line of scrimmage, they run for yards and slide on the ground or run out-of-bounds to avoid a hit (that’s common), so for Pennington to have a trucking ability is fantasy; he doesn’t even have the strength to truck.

Although he rarely did, it would be believable if a former QB like Michael Vick trunks and abuses a defender because he has the speed, agility, power, elusiveness, and more. In fact, he was known for making players look silly on the gridiron, but Pennington and other present QBs? Get out of here! It’s foolish.

Strangely, there are even punters/kickers who have better trucking ratings than defensive players, which makes this glitch even more absurd: Dolphins’ B. Fields, 45; Eagles’ S. Rocca, 74; Jaguars’ A. Podlesh, 35, etc. Never have a punter truck anybody in the NFL; it if occurred, it was rare. Basically, anyone can truck and throw aside any player in this game; the difficulty levels (even on All Madden) and ratings mean nothing. The physics is severely broken and means nothing. What a con.

POOR TACKLING
The tackling ability is poor at best. There is no other way to say it, because the tackling EA implemented this year is not authentic. Everyone (especially CPU) in this game seems to have the ability to breakaway and spin away from unexplainable easy tackles like never before, even when tackled by two players simultaneously. All the players on the field appear to be on superman mode. A player such as a RB can actually get hit by a defender, fall back and lose leverage, and without even putting his hand on the ground to gain his balance, he breaks the tackle(s) and continues running. The Laws of Physics demonstrate that such occurrence can not happen. This kind of absurdity can happen with any player, from a QB to a WR, from a DB to a PR. Don’t weight, force, leverage, power, motion, and other physical mechanics matter anymore?

Hall of Fame RB Barry Sanders (the best RB in NFL’ s history) defied the laws of physics by doing some incredible things – and simply murdering and making his defenders look stupid: breaking 3 to 4 tackles at the same time; leaving his feet and landing on his feet; losing leverage and mysteriously rebounding; breaking heel tackles; trucking defenders; sniff-arming defenders with ease; escaping from two defenders while wrapped up; making defenders embarrassingly jump one way as he gained more yards or scored a touchdown; dragging defenders forward as he ran, etc. It wouldn’t be problematic if a few players had some of these abilities, but everyone on the field? Not only do players embody the Sanders’ motif, but their uniform seems to be drenched with Vaseline, which makes tackling a chore.

USER CATCH/SPIN- CATCH
In Madden NFL 08, the user catch was good and not so irritating. This year’s Madden version is a different story. Under user control, a WR can run down the field open and have a clean bomb, but once the ball is about to be caught, the WR jumps up and does a strange spin- catch, allowing defenders to gain ground and make a tackle. There is no way a WR can be running down field alone at full speed and mysteriously turn around and do a spin-catch, when he could have easily continue his stride and catch the ball by turning his head around. (At times, the WR doesn’t even react to the ball, even if it’s at arm reach, when he is guided by the user.) Maybe this happens because the QB leads the WR poorly by throwing a bad pass, which is a common problem too, but it still shouldn’t happen because receivers don’t do such a thing.

The spin-catch affects the offense tremendously and seems to be an often occurrence. Spin-catches are done in real life, but the way EA executed this feature is unrealistic. When a receiver lines up and does a slant route, he does not jump and spin, showing his back when the ball is in the air, to catch it. In a slant route, a WR runs to the ball and reach out for a catch; if the ball is thrown high (beyond his ability to catch it), then he jumps for the ball with his face focused on the position of the ball in order to catch it. A receiver never turns his back, losing the sight of the football, and catches it in slant routes. It’s not possible nor is it logical.

Moreover, there have been times when a simple screen play is done, and for some reason the RB spins and jumps and catches the ball by turning around for no reason. There is no way to explain why stuff like this occurs, and why EA implemented a dismal/impractical spin-catch feature when the game is marketed as a “real” football simulation.

ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE?
By definition, artificial intelligence (AI) is the ability of a computer to execute functions that usually require human intelligence. No one expects the AI to be perfect, because humans are not perfect. However, people don’t expect AI to lack the intelligence of common sense, and that’s what they lack in this latest installment. They don’t block nor do they care to block; they stand around and investigate the scene as if they are FBI agents; they miss easy interceptions by not putting up their hands, and more. These unresponsive issues are a headache. The user can only control one player at a time instead of his entire team, so he expects computer backup. Sometimes they act on impulse, and most of the time they don’t. When the latter occurs, it is simply a mess.

For example, when a RB play is called, an offensive lineman (OL) could be directly in front of him as he runs and for some strange reason, the OL moves out the way and just stands there, leaving his own teammate defenseless while defenders are converging. Why would an OL abandon a block and simply stand there or aid another OL hold off a defender that is irrelevant to the play, allowing his RB to be tackled? This lack of common sense is mind-boggling, and would never happen in a real life football game. This is not AI; this is what I call PD, Pure Dumbness.

In Madden NFL 04 and 05, EA added a great feature that allowed anyone running with the ball to facilitate a lead block by pointing his hand, which was great for RBs (unlike the pointless OL Lead Blocking feature). Strangely, this feature was gone in the later installment. This is what EA is known for; developers put a feature in one year and it vanishes the following year.

The AI flaws occur in every aspect of the game. For example, on offense, a WR could be the intended target and when the ball is in the air, he doesn’t even try to catch it. He doesn’t even react to the ball. Many times, the ball hits him directly in the back. Every WR knows that when the ball is in the air, he needs to react and attempt to catch it, or knock it down if the defender is in position for an interception. Therefore, why is this realism not in the game?

Another case in point occurs on defense when the DB has a clear-cut interception and doesn’t even put his hands up to catch the ball. Because of such stupidity and lack of common sense, the ball hits him directly in the face or chest. This is what gets one’s veins boiling. At least attempt to catch the ball. If things like these occurred in the NFL with a WR or DB, he would get a tongue- lashing from his coaches and probably released the following week.

EA claims to have enhanced the AI yearly, but it is slim at best because there’s really no headway. In truth, the AI in Madden has been stuck on pure dumbness for years (even when the AI slider is at its max) and it continues in the latest installment – and developers at EA haven’t done anything to address the problem which is sad.

CPU QUICK-SNAP
The offense appears to be in extreme hyperactive mode with every snap. The user barely has enough time to adjust and setup his defense because the computer hikes the ball too quickly (no more than 2 seconds majority of the time). The offense seems to be in hurry up mode every single play. It’s an annoyance. The only time this quick-snap glitch is not problematic is when the WR goes in motion or when the QB calls an audible, for it allows the user enough time to fix his defense accordingly.

WR DIRECT SNAP
This glitch has to be one of the most ridiculous glitches ever seen in a football game. It is outright fatuous, unreal, and impossible. When one is on offense, he can exploit this glitch by snapping the ball to a wide receiver, surprising the defense and getting easy yards. Such play like this does not even occur in real life football, because it is impossible to pull off such feat. There is no way a center can snap a football between his legs to a wide receiver when positioned horizontally yards away, so for a glitch of suchlike to creep its way into the game is strange.

To combat this unrealistic glitch, Cummings states: “Not only are we fixing this play (i.e. we aren't removing it)…”

Rather than eliminating this glitch altogether, he makes a clear contradictory statement by stating it will not be removed but will be fixed, which makes one wonder if it will be altered at all.

RAIN AFFECTING UNIFORM DEGRADATION
The precipitation in the game is incredible; the graphics are amazing. However, the rain affects the degradation of both teams uniform too much, causing all players on the field to look like twins, literally. What does this cause? Confusion. In fact, when players of both teams become dirty via mud, it is nearly impossible to recognize the user team from the opposing team (when the 3rd quarter begins), whether it be on offense or on defense.

The rain having influence on teams’ uniforms occurs in real life football, so it is great. But this rain issue that has everyone on the field looking similar when they are muddy is irritating and unreal. The only way one can recognize his team is by the helmets, and even that is difficult at times. For those who think this is far-fetched, play a game in the rain and it will be telling. For EA to not catch such glitch shows how pathetic their work ethic is.

OUT-OF- BOUNDS COMPLETION
Having one foot inbounds or out- of-bounds in the game is irrelevant. A QB can throw a pass to a WR and rather it being an incomplete pass, it is considered a completed catch. One foot in and one foot out is an incomplete catch, but the game does not recognize that concept. (The same nonsense occurs in Madden NFL 08.) At times, a WR can be completely out-of-bounds, come inbounds and catch the ball, and it’s completed.

One would think the Challenge Play feature would aid this problem by reversing the call, but it too seems to be broken. When an out-of-bounds catch is challenged, it fails to catch that the play was indeed incomplete and does not change the bad call. It happens all the time and nothing can be done about this glitch. What's the point of the Challenge Play feature when such fundamental concept is not recognized?

UNIFORM SIMILARITY
The NFL has a strict rule regarding uniforms. Teams must have a home uniform and away uniform. It seems that EA rejected that rule and came up with its own rules. For example, Miami Dolphins plays with the same all-white uniform in home games and road games. After playing several games, it became apparent that Miami sported only its all-white uniform, including throughout the Franchise.

Miami Dolphins’ all- white uniform is actually a default for its home and away games. It doesn’t matter which team Miami plays nor does it matter if it is a home or road game, the all-white uniform will the selected. The only way to fight this uniform issue is to select another jersey manually. Embarrassingly, developers didn’t even add Dolphins’ road uniform, its white jersey and aqua pants.

If Miami has this problem, it’s pretty evident that other teams may have the same issue as well. Yes, this may be a minor issue, but it shows that developers don’t care about details. They completely ignored the concept of home and road uniforms and did whatever they pleased, which shows how sloppy and lazy they are.

JERKS/PAUSES IN GAMEPLAY
The gameplay is uncanny and feels unreal because it has a lack of fluency. Things are not as smooth as it should be; the movement of gameplay is somewhat slow. Majority of the time after a play, the players pause for about two seconds and quickly jerk back. Another jerky issue occurs when a player breaks away and is about to score; as he runs, he pauses shortly and then gains speed. This hitch is clearly visible because the player legs start moving faster. One does not pause to gain speed while running; one continues at pace which allows acceleration.

Another issue that needs to be addressed is the hurry up offense (no huddle). Why is it that when the user uses no huddle mode, the QB lags behind while all of his players are set and ready? For instance, A QB can complete 40-yard pass down the field, and when the no huddle is used, all of his offensive linemen make it to the line of scrimmage, while he lags behind. Offensive linemen are heavy and bulky players whose job is strenuous because they have to block defenders from getting to the QB – and they can run down the field faster and get to the line of scrimmage before the QB? It’s unrealistic and uses up time. In fact, the offensive linemen should be the ones who lag behind (and not the QB) like in real life. This no huddle glitch has been a fixture in the Madden series for years and it has yet been addressed by EA developers.

The lag doesn’t only occur in gameplay but so too the play call screen when exiting the menu. To combat this glitch, Cummings state: “We found and fixed a bug that was causing a noticeable hitch when exiting the play call screen.” This fix sounds good, but the gameplay lag is much more important, and he fails to mention anything about it. People would much rather have a lag exiting the play screen rather than in gameplay, especially when the lagging issue at times causes the game to freeze.

Moreover, lagging happens when one is cycling through the menu, especially in Franchise mode. The Franchise feature is broken itself, which will be addressed shortly, and the long delay while flipping though menus and stats makes it even worse. Every stat menu takes about five seconds to appear after it is selected. That should not happen and it is ridiculously annoying. Although these lagging issues are clearly visible in gameplay and menus, EA developers failed to recognize them or didn’t bother to fix them before the game was released, which says a lot about their quality control.

There are other glitches that will not be mentioned because the most important issue must be addressed: the FREEZING issue.

FREEZE ISSUE
This glitch is the biggest killer. The freezing occurs in Play Now and in every area of the game at random, but where it happens the most is in Franchise mode. It affects the Franchise mode tremendously and happens constantly, 100% of the time.

As a Dol-fan, the team of choice in Franchise was the Miami Dolphins. In Season 1, everything was going fine (including the “Training” mode) until the latter. Around week 14, the Training mode and games being played started freezing. The freezing in Training mode happens when one leaves the menu to see their players’ earned points. When one continues to player’s two earned points, it just freezes (bringing back memories from Madden NFL 08 and 07).

Frustrating as this glitch was, the console (Xbox 360) was turned off and restarted. The Franchise was loaded and Training mode was tried again, and the same thing occurred. Again, the console was turned off and restarted. Rather than going back to Training mode, it was skipped, opting to only play the game.

From then on, only the games were being played without training any players. Subsequently, the games started to freeze up too. In fact, I played the same team three times because it was continuously freezing; one game froze in the 4th quarter, but I remained persistent with anger. With all of these difficulties, Season 1 was finally completed.

Season 2 is when things really started to act up. The game started to freeze while trades were being executed, while players were being signed, and the whole roster adjustments. After some turning off and restarting the console, my roster was finally set for pre-season. Training mode was tried again, and again it failed via freeze. Instead of wasting time trying to combat this annoying glitch, the entire pre-season was simulated. This is where it gets worse.

I enter Season 2 and play game one. The 15-minute quarter game goes well without any glitch; I return to the menu and attempt to use the Quick Save feature, and it freezes. No longer could my anger be contained. My controller nearly flew out of my hands and into the TV screen. And yes, several expletives were said, especially having difficulties prior. Trying to simulate the week thereafter with the Quick Save feature still didn’ t help because it froze.

This is when I went into troubleshooting mood. Each game was simulated one by one which worked. However, every time simulation (and Quick Save) was used to advance to week 2, the game froze. This method was tried more than ten times straight and it failed. I then tried to save the game the normal way and it froze. In other words, there is absolutely no way to advance to the following week, because it freezes in simulation and during saving.

Trying to find some answers, Training mode was selected again, and this time, the game froze while showing the NFL facts. The Training mode can not be entered, period. The game freezes in every aspect of Franchise. After trying so many things, the conclusion was simple: there is no way to fight this issue. For example, a new Franchise was started and it too froze. Moreover, the game disc was exchanged for another new one, and the same thing continued to occur, proven that the game is, in fact, broken, poorly developed, and has a major freezing bug. This is just unacceptable.

The calendar year reads 2008 and quickly moving to 2009. This is not the year of Sega Genesis and Super Nintendo when games used to freeze when someone walks by the console, when thunder strikes, when rainstorm occurs, when construction is nearby, or when one makes a subtle movement with the controller. Back then people even had to combat freezing issues by blowing into the game cartridge, and putting it into the freezer for a few minutes. Those years are gone and game discs have taken priority, so freezing issues should not be happening constantly.

This freezing issue with the Franchise is not new at all (EA knows about it), because Madden NFL 08 and 07 had the same exact problem. This is what makes the issue more troubling because EA has not addressed this ongoing glitch. How could developers not remedy an issue that was problematic in prior versions? Surprisingly, Cummings’ article-like blog says nothing promising about the freezing Franchise, nor do developers know the main culprit of the problem as the article states: “On a side note, there is also a Franchise stability issue that we have been investigating, and we are working feverishly to get this figured out.” That is pathetically horrible at best.

The way Cummings addresses the issue with “on a side note,” shows that EA doesn’t care too much about the problem. The article proves that because it touches on little issues (field problems, penalty sliders, etc.) and not the major ones.

The majority of gamers don’t care about field degradation or the ineffectiveness of penalty sliders. Those are trivial issues. Gamers want a pure game that plays without freezing. Knowing that the issues mentioned in his blog are not so important compared to others, Cummings states: “There are always going to be folks that are upset if what they felt was a top issue wasn't addressed, but I'll state again (as I have before) that we have to keep balancing this work against Madden NFL 2010.”

He is absolutely correct because people do have the right to be upset, mainly for two reasons: 1) the most important issue which is the freezing was not seriously addressed; and 2) people paid $64.19 for a game that is broken, nearly $100 if they purchased the collector’s edition. Clearly, those are grounds to be upset. To bring light to this pathetic situation, he brings up Madden NFL2010. Who cares about Madden NFL 2010 when the latest version is riddled with bugs?

His following statement is even funnier: “The longer we keep going on patches, the less we can add to the following year's product.” This statement sounds as if the customers are to blame – and not EA – for requesting a patch to remedy a situation that should have been taken care of before the game’s release. In regard to add-ons to next year’s Madden, it’ll perhaps be limited, with better graphics and an updated roster. In other words, EA will most likely not fix anything and put out a game without any major progression.

In reality, the most important and exciting feature in Madden is the Franchise, for it allows the users to play overall owner. Without Franchise, Madden would be useless and boring – and the masses would not gravitate toward the game. The Franchise feature allows people to achieve some feats with players and their team, so if it is unplayable, the game as a whole is fruitless.

What EA is doing to its loyal Madden customers is not only fraudulent, but it seems to be a purposeful act. EA doesn’ t care to fix the many ongoing problems, because there is no competition. Thus, EA continues to release lackluster games. If competitors had the opportunity to produce NFL football games, some of EA’s products would never see the day of light. It would drive developers to put out better games that are free from glitches, rather than defective trash.

Back in the day, people had the options of playing various NFL football games such as the NFL 2K series, NFL GameDay series, NFL Quarterback Club series by Acclaim (defunct in 2004). When these games were around, they obviously had their problems and some were quite terrible, but so did the Madden NFL series. Had these football series stayed alive, they would have made some advancement that EA has yet taken with the Madden series, and perhaps eclipse Madden’s superiority and popularity. However, because EA signed an exclusivity deal with the NFL, which runs until 2012, no other company can produce an NFL game.

Is that not monopoly? Why was the Sherman Act even passed in 1890 if this kind of violation can happen? The Department of Justice needs to step in and regulate EA in some form because it is breaking antitrust laws. What EA is doing is unfair to its competitions and consumers. Why do people have to suffer and have only one choice of an NFL game because of an exclusive license? People ought to have the right to have options, instead of having one option of a rehashed game.

This company is slimy. Its sliminess is evident by the harassment of Take-Two currently, a rival game company that owns 2K Games and publishes its 2K Sports titles. Take-Two also develops and publishes the famous Grand Theft Auto series. If EA does takeover Take-Two, not only will it ruin its 2K Sports games but also their other popular titles. This rapacious act is to limit competition. If that’s not an act of monopoly, then what is?

Nonetheless, after evaluating this game and finding so many glitches, it makes one wonder if EA developers even checked for problems. Doesn’t this multi- billion dollar company have a quality control department? More important, what do EA’s technicians/developers do all day? Sit on their backside and play tic-tac-toe and SOS? Check their MySpace pages and chat with girls? Spend all day on their cell phones? Reminisce about what happened over the weekend? These are some serious questions that need to be asked because the countless bugs in this game are unbelievable.

The NFL, NFL Players Association, and John Madden should be embarrassed for having their names and likeness involved with this game. The NFL should revoke their exclusive license from EA, for their name is being exploited.

All in all, this game is great in regard to graphics; the same can not be said for the players. The gameplay is okay but it needs an overhaul. However, because of so many glitches (especially the constant freezing), Madden NFL 09 is PURE REFINED GARBAGE.

EA is a multi-billion dollar company and has conned its loyal Madden supporters by constantly putting out defective products. Moreover, EA uses consumers as beta testers and later releases “patches” to remedy the problems.

The so-called patch that should be out in about 3 weeks shows how lethargic their work ethic is, and most likely will not remedy the freezing bug. If released through Xbox Live only, what will happen to those customers who have no access to the Internet? Will they be out of luck or will EA come up with a solution?

EA ought to be ashamed for such disaster. All of the employees that were involved with this game’s development should take a sock, fill it up with ice, and slap themselves in the face for releasing MADDEN-DEFECTIVE-TRASH 09. Electronics Arts should be renamed to Electronic Faults, because majority of their games are embedded with bugs.

Congratulations EA for defecating on your loyal Madden fans once again.

Alex @ Sep 6th 2008 11:09AM

I'm not reading that.

Gewurztraminer says: R.O.B. is the last Cylon! @ Sep 7th 2008 6:26PM

J-E-T-S!

Nyroska @ Sep 8th 2008 9:25AM

tl;dr

Cloaker @ Sep 6th 2008 11:41AM

This "Madden Sim Gamer" DLC pack has me GREATLY concerned--are you telling me we have to pay money to customize our controller configuration and get CPU A.I sliders? That in order to get Accelerated Cock we have to pay money!!!

Un-Frickin'-Believable.

I am beyond my ability to express my rage.

dbeth @ Sep 6th 2008 2:57PM

The "Madden Sim Gamer" DLC will be free. Ian mentioned it on the Operation Sports boards a couple of weeks ago.

According to Ian, they don't want to charge for it, and Ian is going to do what he can to make sure it's FREE.

MARQUIS @ Sep 6th 2008 12:44PM

Nickle and dime.

vidGuy @ Sep 6th 2008 3:14PM

I don't think I would pay for an Accelerated Cock feature...

vidGuy @ Sep 6th 2008 2:47PM

I laugh at your bitching and whining.

Why do I buy a new edition of Madden every year or two? Because the improvements each year are enough to make me want the new version. I play at least a few games of Madden a month, so I probably get 100 to 150 hours a year out of the franchise. I simply make a judgment call - are the new features going to enhance the next 100 hours enough to be worth $60? Often times the answer is yes.

Madden 09 and Madden 06 on the 360 are about as similar as Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario 64, or MGS4 and Metal Gear Solid. Just because they are both built around the NFL doesn't mean they are the same game.

Secondly, most games have glitches or bugs. I agree that EA needs some better quality control and testing, but I haven't experienced any of the bugs discussed so I don't think they are crippling. I've put about 30 hours into Madden 09 already, too.

Squirrel3D @ Sep 6th 2008 3:23PM

Talk about drinking the kool-aid.

Yeah, another year, another good reason for me to skip madden.

hoopty @ Sep 6th 2008 3:58PM

an EA labeled game with bugs?! NO it just aint true, EA produces top notch high quality games for the consumer to enjoy without any workarounds..... another EA quality game, hhahahahahahaa.

Bleu @ Sep 6th 2008 11:47PM

I love hoopty's comment it was perfect. And I think vidguy either works for EA or got paid off because his comments are very naiive. Its like he doesnt realize the trend with madden that has happened over the years.

Firstly their is no reason to release a new madden every year and even if you do why are they charging full price for a game that doesnt have anything new to bring. Some people just dont see that and they think that every year their is something new added to madden. NOOOOO what E freakin A does is remove features and then add them a couple of years later so that people think its new when they are really shafting a pole up your ass.

A madden game should be relased every 2-3 years with updates in between, that way the developers can have a longer time to work on it and perfect it....and may be you can $65 for it. The game will be better that way because the game of football doesnot change every year only the players.

Thank you that is all!

sarcastor @ Sep 8th 2008 4:59PM

the best quote:

"The longer we keep going on patches, the less we can add to the following year's product"

yeah and next year's product will be just as buggy, you moron! Geez, once you stop making games on fixed schedules, you'll make better games.