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Posted: Sep 18th 2008 4:24PM Softserve said

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I feel like MS mentioned something that implied this quite a while ago. Forza 2 did use a version of the PGR engine as well.

It's not unbelievable, but honestly PGR4 was decent (and did not sell well) so I don't really see the point. I'd rather hear more about Forza 3 and have them put some time into prettying it up a bit.

Posted: Sep 18th 2008 4:34PM (Unverified) said

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How did it not sell well? It sold over a million copies, it sold more than well enough.
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Posted: Sep 18th 2008 4:38PM Softserve said

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Last I had heard it underperformed, so I guess I'm wrong. I remember it popping up the first month with 30,000 or something in US sales. I didn't expect it would climb up.
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Posted: Sep 18th 2008 7:52PM FordGTGuy said

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Dude PGR and Forza did not use either the same physics or graphics engine.
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Posted: Sep 18th 2008 8:57PM AoE said

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FordGTGuy,

There was a considerable amount of code/ideas exchanged between the two companies which is probably where the confusion comes from:

http://www.msxbox-world.com/xbox360/features/article/198/X06-XCN-Forza-2-QA-with-Dan-Greenawalt-Game-Director.html

Check out the answers to the question "What can you tell us about Forza Motorsport TV, will it be anything like Project Gotham Racing TV? " and the one right below it... about 2/3 down the page.
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Posted: Sep 19th 2008 9:07PM FordGTGuy said

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They may have share some ideas but not the same engines.
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Posted: Sep 18th 2008 4:31PM stressflyer said

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well , I can't help but think the next pgr will be a launch title for the next xbox system, that said I heard Sega has a team making a sequel to thier racer , 'metropolis street racer'

how mint, think of all the kudos we will be getting.

Posted: Sep 18th 2008 5:14PM horngreen said

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PGR is going to need some new features for me to drop $60 on it. PGR3 was worth it just for the new graphics but I passed on 4 as the bikes were just lame. Toss in some figure 8 tracks and some big jumps and we'll see but just Kudos and shinier cars isn't going to do it for me at least.

Posted: Sep 18th 2008 11:33PM 7r1ck13 said

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My guess is PGR4 will be Forza3.. Turn 10 would have no reason to put out 2 racers to compete w/ each other.. So that said. I really hate to say it being I LOVE forza and Hate PGR but I think this would spell the end for Forza..

Or Hopefully, just Forza 3 in sheeps clothing..
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Posted: Sep 18th 2008 5:40PM Gronar said

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PGR4 was pure garbage.

Posted: Sep 18th 2008 9:18PM Snowman said

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Was it really? How comes, I ask cause I never played it.
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Posted: Sep 19th 2008 10:01AM badgeroverlord said

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Good PGR4 was a lost cause. Maybe the new team can actually bring something new into the series

Posted: Sep 18th 2008 8:08PM shuref00t said

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Well then PGR5 is in good hands, and now Bizarre can focus on the next Geometry Wars. Win-Win.

Posted: Sep 18th 2008 11:36PM aronmayo said

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PGR4 was AWESOMENESS in a box....it was by far the best racing game of 2007, solid in every way and obviously it has the best graphics of any videogame anyone has ever seen. If you haven't checked it out its worth it just for the graphics. Also the DLC they released was awesome and added a few extra hours...too bad there wont be any more dlc. :(

Posted: Sep 19th 2008 2:12AM meth0dical said

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pgr became irrelevant to me when they added bikes. being a wheel racer i skipped pgr4, i hope they revert to just cars in the next one.

Posted: Sep 19th 2008 3:20AM (Unverified) said

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I really hope that this is not the case. Turn10 should be focusing on Forza 3. In my opinion Forza 1 was better than all four PGR games added together, and Forza 2 was even better. And I'm really looking forward to the third one.

Posted: Sep 19th 2008 12:28PM (Unverified) said

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The only thing that impressed me about PGR4 was the sound. I've never heard such realistic car sounds when in the first-person "inside the car" view. When it rains in the game, you can hear the muffled engine and the rain hitting the windshield. And if you have surround sound and are driving a rear engine car, the engine sound actually comes from behind you, it's crazy.

Posted: Sep 19th 2008 2:14PM (Unverified) said

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PGR4 was a great game. The lack of a HUD in 1st person mode was annoying, and the restrictions on what cars could be used in certain events was slightly painful when you were stuck with a pile o' @~#* to drive, but the game was fun and gave me many hours of fun and gamerscore.

Posted: Sep 19th 2008 9:58PM (Unverified) said

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does anyone else here feel like the pgr games really lack a sense of speed? i feel like im riding a golfcart down the track

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