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Posted: Sep 23rd 2008 9:24AM (Unverified) said

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Wow. It's the ultimate DRM.

Now, what about bandwidth caps? What about having to basically go through TWO seperate subscription services (the game service, and your ISP) to access games that you, presumably, own?

I still think it's easier to take a disc and put it into your machine. And I think most gamers will ultimately think so too.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2008 3:32PM (Unverified) said

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I can't think of a single product that each time I use I must prove I own.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2008 9:13PM thranx said

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Sure... every MMO ever made.

I don't have a problem with DRM that requires a login, I think it's a hassle free way for users to access their software and it's a method that publishers feel confident in.

But *gasp* I have to have the internet to play my game. I would have rather have had LusacArts release Force Unleashed with a DRM that required me to login to the game than to not have it release on PC at all... piracy was thier delcared reason for not releasing on the PC.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2008 9:39PM (Unverified) said

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But with an MMO you know you're buying a game that you need to be online to play.

What happens when you start buying single player games and your Playstation won't let you play your single player game without you plugging it into the internet and allowing it to dial up and get permission?

Or what happens when it's 2 AM and your ISP is doing maitenance (mine likes to shut down for about half an hour at 2 AM every couple of days), and guess what? You can't play that game you paid for, despite the fact that it at no point requires you to be on the internet!

Or what happens in 10 years time, and you feel nostalgic and dust off your old game, but the DRM server doesn't exist anymore so you just can't play the game anymore, ever.

I think there is a fantastic argument for physical copies of games that you can just play.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2008 9:59AM copa said

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"There won't be a shift in development processes."

Bullshit.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2008 10:06AM DimensionWarped said

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They'll need more than a shit load of money to get people to actually use this stuff.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2008 10:04AM Mitochondria said

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Ha, give me 100mil and i'll make an empire, give these guys money and all they do is talk a big game. The fact is piracy is something that will be around forever. The pirates are just as smart as the people making the games and these servers, possibly smarter.
As long as people exist the problem will as well.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2008 10:06AM Haggard said

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Shoulda just invested in Steam..
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2008 1:10PM BigD145 said

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Shoulda invested in AIG.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2008 1:42PM Dahk said

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BigD, you did. Just you're not a shareholder =P.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2008 10:11AM Dale P said

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This sounds suspiciously like an update of the Phantom business model.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2008 10:27AM Vidikron said

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Wow... this sounds horrible. So now you won't even get the complete game you paid for? And what's this crap about the computing being done on their servers?? If I'm reading that correctly, that means that we would have to deal with lag in SINGLE player games. That's absurd.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2008 10:34AM (Unverified) said

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To the dumdums who comment here and the bigger dumdums who write here.

You do realize that dropping 100m on this sort of development is a risk that is not only less of a risk than say developing a game but also one that has a much higher chance of paying back 100+ fold if it does work out.

Compared to game development this is smart spending...
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2008 10:46AM Vidikron said

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Frankly, I hope they lose it all for the reasons I gave above. This is nothing more than DRM at its worst.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2008 10:36AM KeenCommander said

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Sensors indicate money loss...

Just don't crash that Ferrari this time!
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2008 10:49AM Sylver said

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you win. have a cookie.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2008 11:03AM (Unverified) said

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"To play, you'll always have to connect to Trion's servers (read: publishers can finally make money in piracy-laden markets)."

Good luck with that. What they still don't understand is that in 3rd world countries where piracy is rampant, most people can't afford the price. Take for example Argentina, a new game costs 300 pesos, which is roughly 100 dollars. But if you take into account the average salary, it's equivalent to an american having to pay 300 dollars for a game.

Please keep in mind I'm not discussing whether that justifies anything or if it's right or wrong. The point is that if they implement this, and remove the possibility of piracy, it's delusional to think that will translate in more sales. Wealthy people already use originals mostly, and the rest won't spend 10% of their salary on a game.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2008 3:35PM (Unverified) said

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Exactly. This is something that would desperately need attention. STEAM struggles with this issue in a way, trying to ensure people are actually in certain countries and paying where they live. It's very easy to use Proxies to connect to these services and "act" like you're from a particular country where the exchange works in your favor...ie..English pretending they're American, but this is basically the opposite problem.

I do think many in Asia and SA do not have the money to pay these prices, only a small percentage(and in some countries in Europe/ASIA/SA, Console gaming is way too overpriced), and bootlegs on the street are so easy to come by, that a service like this, where a broadband connection is required, might not work at all in these areas. Unless a proper and affordable infrastructure is setup in many countries, the Trion network is going to have issues.

This service would need to ensure that when they sell for example Bioshock for $1 USD to a South American or Asian customer, it's not to an American or Brit or a Euro using a Proxy to fake the address. This is why I'm told STEAM has pricing issues between countries, imposed by the Publisher. I'm guessing this will be eliminated on the Trion network, since this is essentially Cloud computing, and Proxies would essentially be impossible to use due to latency concerns...etc..Just thinking out loud.

If this takes off, we could see games being cut off from entire populations altogether, at least the titles that are released only on the Trion network.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2008 9:14PM thranx said

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Nice. And true.
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Posted: Sep 23rd 2008 9:15PM thranx said

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oops, that was in response to us having all purchased AIG :) nicely done.
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