Last night's breaking rumor about a DS redesign came seemingly out of nowhere, but with the next Nintendo conference right around the corner, maybe it's not such a surprise as all that. What we did find surprising were the purported changes in the redesign. Camera? Music? Interesting, sure, but how many of us are already strapped with devices that handle those functions just fine? Is this what you would have chosen for the next DS?
Last night's breaking rumor about a DS redesign came seemingly out of nowhere, but with the next Nintendo conference right around the corner, maybe it's not such a surprise as all that. What we did find surprising were the purported changes in the redesign. Camera? Music? Interesting, sure, but how many of us are already strapped with devices that handle those functions just fine? Is this what you would have chosen for the next DS?
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Posted: Sep 28th 2008 10:41AM (Unverified) said
It needs to be more powerful, definitely. Music would be cool, but yeah, pretty much everyone has and iPod, and as far as a camera goes, it depends on the quality. If it's just basically a phone camera, it would also be something of a waste. A higher quality camera though, would be pretty awesome I think.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 4:21PM Trilancer said
Or they can go for a moduler design and everyone would be happy.
http://madiart.blogspot.com/2006/09/gameboy-omega.html
I don't like paying for what I don't need, and I really don't like paying for I don't want.
But I'd pay for a new slimmer model, just shallow I guess (I don't get those Dove ads)
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http://madiart.blogspot.com/2006/09/gameboy-omega.html
I don't like paying for what I don't need, and I really don't like paying for I don't want.
But I'd pay for a new slimmer model, just shallow I guess (I don't get those Dove ads)
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 6:48PM (Unverified) said
If you want an all in one without phone, get a PSP. There's no reason for DS to go there. The camera add on for the PSP wasn't popular and there's a reason. People already have cameras and/or camera phones. Why would they want a game system to do this?
I think GPS would be cool because you could send GPS coordinates and then meet people randomly on the street for battles, but that would never happen because Americans fear unknown people and the GPS function would be way to expensive to justify putting it in.
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I think GPS would be cool because you could send GPS coordinates and then meet people randomly on the street for battles, but that would never happen because Americans fear unknown people and the GPS function would be way to expensive to justify putting it in.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 10:45AM DonaldMick said
I would've left the multimedia stuff off. I'm at the point where I prefer my game systems to be just that - game systems.
Just equip it with a wireless-G chip and let it use higher-security routers and I'd be happy.
Just equip it with a wireless-G chip and let it use higher-security routers and I'd be happy.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 11:05AM (Unverified) said
some PDA functions would be nice, but the camera and music functions are a bit over the top. The majority of us already own a mp3 player and a digital camera, and I would much rather like Nintendo to focus on improving the DS as a gaming device, not as a multi-media gadget. Use that extra space/power to improve the CPU, add more internal memory, improve the sound quality, ect.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 11:18AM Shoyz said
The music part is pointless. The PSP can do it decently because of the easy-to-access menu and having the controls always out, but the DS with it's flip-close design and bulky menu seem less likely to work.
On the bright side, this does guarantee some sort of change in menu for the DS, as well as the possibility of like mentioned Virtual Console compatability, and maybe even synching with a computer for downloads thanks to the SD slot.
As far as the camera goes; it seems a little tacky. Isn't the DS supposed to be a Gaming Console? On second thought.. *swipes DS under passing girl's skirt*.
..I'm kidding. (:
On the bright side, this does guarantee some sort of change in menu for the DS, as well as the possibility of like mentioned Virtual Console compatability, and maybe even synching with a computer for downloads thanks to the SD slot.
As far as the camera goes; it seems a little tacky. Isn't the DS supposed to be a Gaming Console? On second thought.. *swipes DS under passing girl's skirt*.
..I'm kidding. (:
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 12:02PM (Unverified) said
On the contrary, anyone who's messed with flashcarts before will know how cool it is to play music through earphones while closing your DS. At least, it is if you disable shoulder-button controls :D
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Hmmmm. This sounds pants to me, but that's just the description so far. Its totally un-necessary... if they turn it into a PSP, i'll flip.
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Hmmmm. This sounds pants to me, but that's just the description so far. Its totally un-necessary... if they turn it into a PSP, i'll flip.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 6:53PM (Unverified) said
@ Pre-pumpkin (NOT Shoyz -- I know you were kidding)
Haha, yeah really funny. Go to jail, you little creep.
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Haha, yeah really funny. Go to jail, you little creep.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 11:19AM Shoyz said
Unless it's the DS2 (New system altogether), I won't be upgrading.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 11:34AM (Unverified) said
Camera + Music = Increased Game Functionality?
I'd be pretty cool with being able to port music into a game like EBA. There could be some interesting uses for both of them, game-wise.
Though, I want to see the redesign before I decide on it - my DS Phat is still pretty great, and I am still less than interested in the Lite.
I'd be pretty cool with being able to port music into a game like EBA. There could be some interesting uses for both of them, game-wise.
Though, I want to see the redesign before I decide on it - my DS Phat is still pretty great, and I am still less than interested in the Lite.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 11:34AM oneplus said
I don't feel like the new add-ons particularly warrant an upgrade, to be honest. Unless the DS itself is given higher specs, I probably won't be upgrading until a while after its release.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 11:37AM Covarr said
Hmm, I don't think they're going to announce a new DS. Not while the DS Lite is still going so strong. Besides which, as nice as a DS with these features would be, it doesn't seem to go along with what Nintendo's been doing lately; storage, camera, and media functionality seem to be targeted more at the core gamer than Nintendo's recent target audience of "everyone who isn't between the ages of 13 and 25".
Additionally, the timing of the rumor doesn't really tell us anything. While it's true that a rumor that isn't bogus is more likely to crop up right before a big media event, it's equally true that hoaxers know this, and are also more likely to make stuff up right before big events.
Additionally, the timing of the rumor doesn't really tell us anything. While it's true that a rumor that isn't bogus is more likely to crop up right before a big media event, it's equally true that hoaxers know this, and are also more likely to make stuff up right before big events.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 12:00PM lanadapter said
Cameras and music are core domain? when did this happen?
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Posted: Sep 28th 2008 1:35PM Covarr said
Core gamers are more likely to own PS3s and 360s, both of which have both of these features, as opposed to the Wii, which doesn't have a camera, and barely has music playing (through the Photo channel only).
Not only that, but core gamers usually fall into the same age range as the people who tend to buy (or receive as gifts) phones with cameras and MP3 capabilities.
I'm not saying that other people wouldn't appreciate these features, but it's not really a selling point for soccer moms or 4 year olds.
Then again, it might be nice to see Nintendo putting more effort into pleasing core gamers and less into minigame collections and non-games. It's such a waste to see a company that has historically made some of the best games ever, like Super Mario World and Ocarina of Time, almost completely wasting the skill and talent they've shown they have on games like Brain Age and Wii Fit.
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Not only that, but core gamers usually fall into the same age range as the people who tend to buy (or receive as gifts) phones with cameras and MP3 capabilities.
I'm not saying that other people wouldn't appreciate these features, but it's not really a selling point for soccer moms or 4 year olds.
Then again, it might be nice to see Nintendo putting more effort into pleasing core gamers and less into minigame collections and non-games. It's such a waste to see a company that has historically made some of the best games ever, like Super Mario World and Ocarina of Time, almost completely wasting the skill and talent they've shown they have on games like Brain Age and Wii Fit.
Posted: Sep 29th 2008 4:13AM lanadapter said
You forget that hardcore gamers play casual games, and that casual gamers can be interested in hardcore titles. and your usage of 'core' isn't even correct('core' means current consumers as opposed to expanded market buyers aka new consumers)
as for 'hardcore' vs. 'casual' there isn't even a universally agreed upon meaning of 'hardcore', and some can be be interpreted to mean FPSes are casual titles(the 'easy to pick up & play' theory. so many I've played don't go much beyond aim & shoot really), another could be interpreted as animal crossing being 'core', because of the hours of play and dedication it takes to earn perfect town status(which might explain the weirdness at nintendo's E3 booth..... cammie needs to be fired)
heck, some definitions exclude all but an extremely small number of games(again, the pick up and play one) one definition even states graphics define hardcore, which could include wii fit if they set it to 1080p and realism'd the crap out of it.
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as for 'hardcore' vs. 'casual' there isn't even a universally agreed upon meaning of 'hardcore', and some can be be interpreted to mean FPSes are casual titles(the 'easy to pick up & play' theory. so many I've played don't go much beyond aim & shoot really), another could be interpreted as animal crossing being 'core', because of the hours of play and dedication it takes to earn perfect town status(which might explain the weirdness at nintendo's E3 booth..... cammie needs to be fired)
heck, some definitions exclude all but an extremely small number of games(again, the pick up and play one) one definition even states graphics define hardcore, which could include wii fit if they set it to 1080p and realism'd the crap out of it.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 12:29PM Roto13 said
It's not a rumour any more. Nikkei's website confirmed it. It's like if the Wallstreet Journal had written an article about it.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 12:32PM Jacksons said
I'm more interested in software, honestly. But if we're going the hardware route, I'd like an analog stick. Playing 3d games with a dpad is terrible.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 12:33PM Mr Khan said
Remember this will be the DS's 4th birthday this November, which makes it 1 year longer than either the Game Boy Color OR the highly successful Game Boy Advance survived without a replacement
GBA was also replaced while it was still going strong, GBC not as much (successful, but not on GBA levels), but GBC was still a very viable platform when they swapped it out
The case for this being a new "console" is rather strong.
If it isn't, though, i won't be getting it. I never use the camera in my cell phone, and i don't listen to music. The Wii-DS swapping capabilities might be nice
Finally, it almost feels kinda like Nintendo would be copying the PSP doing this move, which is a bad thing on a few levels. Nintendo's the game company that keeps it real, about the games, not the hardware features, and i wouldn't really want to see them leave that route.
GBA was also replaced while it was still going strong, GBC not as much (successful, but not on GBA levels), but GBC was still a very viable platform when they swapped it out
The case for this being a new "console" is rather strong.
If it isn't, though, i won't be getting it. I never use the camera in my cell phone, and i don't listen to music. The Wii-DS swapping capabilities might be nice
Finally, it almost feels kinda like Nintendo would be copying the PSP doing this move, which is a bad thing on a few levels. Nintendo's the game company that keeps it real, about the games, not the hardware features, and i wouldn't really want to see them leave that route.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 12:59PM (Unverified) said
well, IMO the only thing the DS is missing is the power thet PSP for exaple have .
going a bit off topic the main thing id improve in nintendo is stop making remakes .
going a bit off topic the main thing id improve in nintendo is stop making remakes .
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 1:26PM (Unverified) said
To be honest, I'm really, really sick of everyone trying to take the gadgets I already have and combine them into one Super-I-Can-Do-It-All-Gadget.
First of all, it took me a long time just to be able to afford a DS (my first child), my iPod (2nd child), and then my Digital Camera (3rd child).
All of these things are awesome gadgets that do their job just fine. Sure, they take up a little extra space being individual gadgets, but personally, I sort of prefer that. Not that they take up more space, but the fact that they're separate.
One, have you people seen the learning curve on some of the "smart phones" out there?
Two, when I want to play my DS, I don't want to have to click 58 times to access my DS's DS features. Do we seriously need to have a handheld gaming system that's also an MP3 players and camera? Not really. It's nice, but seriously, completely unnecessary.
I'm from the school of "if it ain't broken, don't fix it."
The Lite, from my perspective, isn't broken, nor has it stopped printing money. Personally, I think releasing a new model is going to cause more trouble than not. But what do I know?
Regardless, back to the original question, what would I have done?
I'd have improved upon the DS's gaming features and left the other crap out of it. MP3's? That's what homebrew is for. Camera? WHY!?
So, what would I have done? At this point in time, absolutely nothing. I'd release more colors worldwide, especially in America, and I'd leave it the hell alone at least until 2010.
First of all, it took me a long time just to be able to afford a DS (my first child), my iPod (2nd child), and then my Digital Camera (3rd child).
All of these things are awesome gadgets that do their job just fine. Sure, they take up a little extra space being individual gadgets, but personally, I sort of prefer that. Not that they take up more space, but the fact that they're separate.
One, have you people seen the learning curve on some of the "smart phones" out there?
Two, when I want to play my DS, I don't want to have to click 58 times to access my DS's DS features. Do we seriously need to have a handheld gaming system that's also an MP3 players and camera? Not really. It's nice, but seriously, completely unnecessary.
I'm from the school of "if it ain't broken, don't fix it."
The Lite, from my perspective, isn't broken, nor has it stopped printing money. Personally, I think releasing a new model is going to cause more trouble than not. But what do I know?
Regardless, back to the original question, what would I have done?
I'd have improved upon the DS's gaming features and left the other crap out of it. MP3's? That's what homebrew is for. Camera? WHY!?
So, what would I have done? At this point in time, absolutely nothing. I'd release more colors worldwide, especially in America, and I'd leave it the hell alone at least until 2010.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 2:11PM (Unverified) said
I'm with seemingly everyone else on this. Most of the people I know who have a PSP don't really care about the music player, web browser, or UMD movies (especially UMD movies). They just want good games. I think cheap and reliable GPS would be cool, but not as cool as awesome games. The old Game Boy Camera was neat because of its unique grainy quality and the printer add-on. Why does Nintendo think we want a camera and music player? Who told them this?
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 2:06PM ducky said
It's probably a bit early to be discussing whether they should or shouldn't do this, especially since this whole thing is almost certainly a hoax.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 2:08PM (Unverified) said
A friendly warning for ADHD sufferers to stay away from this behemoth.
Wow, I really wouldn’t have anticipated this level of negativity following the leak of the new design. Everyone’s points about the new bells and whistles being superfluous are valid—of course they’re not going to help improve the quality of games and gameplay. I personally don’t think that a redesign, much less an entirely new device, is needed at this time, but I can see Nintendo’s reasoning.
For one thing, I think that cultural differences between Japan and the rest of the world are fueling the confusion (bordering on outrage?) toward Nintendo’s move. I assume that convergence devices go over very well there due to high reliance on mass transit and rampant technophilia that really don’t exist at the same levels in the west. The PSP has seen a huge surge in sales thanks to Monster Hunter, and it could very well be that people who bought it for that one game are recognizing its abilities as a media player and recommendations from these people to others who may benefit from such a convenience are resulting in further-increased PSP sales. I see this as an attempt for Nintendo of Japan to reclaim the spot of number one handheld by removing the last remaining feature “advantage” the PSP has over the DS.
This isn’t of any use to those of us in the west who like our electronic devices separate. I have no need for a second digital camera, a second mp3 player, or even a first PDA. In spite of this, I’m not going to be negative until I can actually see the device and decide for myself that a camera, mp3 player, etc. is excessive (admittedly, I’d still upgrade anyway because I’m using my launch-day Phat.) This move could stop the upswing in PSP development in its tracks provided that it causes the DS to reclaim the title of top-selling handheld device, though, which is an interesting prospect and would, in my opinion, make whatever drama and infighting we’re going to see over the redesign in the coming weeks and months worth it.
What I don’t want to see is anything that will hamper compatibility with current DS games, though. Resizing can be done a la toggling in the vein of GB games on the GBA, so I’m not particularly worried about that. I just don’t know what else Nintendo has in store and I don’t want something that’s going to force people to purchase the new model to play particular games if it’s not going to be an out-and-out new system, although I don’t know what, other than camera integration, could cause that. I don’t want to see Nintendo’s nickel-and-diming policies from the Wii (Balance Board, Zapper, MotionPlus, WiiSpeak, etc) translate to the DS.
Wow, I really wouldn’t have anticipated this level of negativity following the leak of the new design. Everyone’s points about the new bells and whistles being superfluous are valid—of course they’re not going to help improve the quality of games and gameplay. I personally don’t think that a redesign, much less an entirely new device, is needed at this time, but I can see Nintendo’s reasoning.
For one thing, I think that cultural differences between Japan and the rest of the world are fueling the confusion (bordering on outrage?) toward Nintendo’s move. I assume that convergence devices go over very well there due to high reliance on mass transit and rampant technophilia that really don’t exist at the same levels in the west. The PSP has seen a huge surge in sales thanks to Monster Hunter, and it could very well be that people who bought it for that one game are recognizing its abilities as a media player and recommendations from these people to others who may benefit from such a convenience are resulting in further-increased PSP sales. I see this as an attempt for Nintendo of Japan to reclaim the spot of number one handheld by removing the last remaining feature “advantage” the PSP has over the DS.
This isn’t of any use to those of us in the west who like our electronic devices separate. I have no need for a second digital camera, a second mp3 player, or even a first PDA. In spite of this, I’m not going to be negative until I can actually see the device and decide for myself that a camera, mp3 player, etc. is excessive (admittedly, I’d still upgrade anyway because I’m using my launch-day Phat.) This move could stop the upswing in PSP development in its tracks provided that it causes the DS to reclaim the title of top-selling handheld device, though, which is an interesting prospect and would, in my opinion, make whatever drama and infighting we’re going to see over the redesign in the coming weeks and months worth it.
What I don’t want to see is anything that will hamper compatibility with current DS games, though. Resizing can be done a la toggling in the vein of GB games on the GBA, so I’m not particularly worried about that. I just don’t know what else Nintendo has in store and I don’t want something that’s going to force people to purchase the new model to play particular games if it’s not going to be an out-and-out new system, although I don’t know what, other than camera integration, could cause that. I don’t want to see Nintendo’s nickel-and-diming policies from the Wii (Balance Board, Zapper, MotionPlus, WiiSpeak, etc) translate to the DS.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 2:08PM Shoyz said
I personally think Nintendo should go back to the Gameboy franchise. After finally having tried a PSP, I find the two screens to be really irritating in comparison.
Now, a Gameboy with a touch screen..
Now, a Gameboy with a touch screen..
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 4:02PM (Unverified) said
WELL WELL WELL...
What do we have here?
A multifuncional handheld that has to compete with another gadgets like what? PSP?, iphone? ipod? the next google phone gadget?, and another mp3 devices and also digicams??
Is not that too much?
First of all, what wouldd be the quality of the camera? good, bad of worst than a regular digicam? MP3? that would be cool improvement but i already an I-audio doing that(and more stufs, pics,videos etc)way better than the homebrew I tried on the DS.
I wonder if it worth it all this improvement to afford the new "DS reloaded".
IMHO, I love handhelds, i'm deeply in love of them, as such i like that any kind of handheld that do their functions at max capacity so that's why i like having gadgets doing the job on their own , and dedicated to do it well...I.E good and awesome pictures? = my fuji digicam, mp3 + videos? = no probs, my i-audio can do it, and finally and most important, the fun games? My beloved DS of course.
With this, i wanna say that i'm a person who like specific devices for specific tasks, and while i'm not against of an all-in-one function packed in just one handheld gadget such as the brand new announced "DS 2" (or 3 in this case), isn't all a bad idea at all and even sounds attractive, but I seriously doubt that the new upgrades will be super awesome and effective like the separate devices on their own.
Now,I'm just speculating about this, but i'll wait to see the quality of the news functions (specially the pictures taken with the camera) of the new handheld. If my suspicious thoughts here become rights, then i don't see any reasons for me to get the new DS.
Of course, i truly believe there will be tons of ppl who gonna get it and won't really care about the points that i mentioned above. Some will find out that is really cool carrying all the stuff in one pack and feel very comfy with it, I think it'll be okay for them.
But as for me, I'm a pretty picky and demanding guy when it comes to the quality of the functions. Lack of quality in any of the aspects that I wrote, i just can't accept and take it. I don't care if carry on with the devices separately but at least, i won't be never disappointed of their performances.
If i'm gonna give my money (and a good amount) for some gadget , i demand good quality doing what they were made for. So that's why I like devices working alone.
What do we have here?
A multifuncional handheld that has to compete with another gadgets like what? PSP?, iphone? ipod? the next google phone gadget?, and another mp3 devices and also digicams??
Is not that too much?
First of all, what wouldd be the quality of the camera? good, bad of worst than a regular digicam? MP3? that would be cool improvement but i already an I-audio doing that(and more stufs, pics,videos etc)way better than the homebrew I tried on the DS.
I wonder if it worth it all this improvement to afford the new "DS reloaded".
IMHO, I love handhelds, i'm deeply in love of them, as such i like that any kind of handheld that do their functions at max capacity so that's why i like having gadgets doing the job on their own , and dedicated to do it well...I.E good and awesome pictures? = my fuji digicam, mp3 + videos? = no probs, my i-audio can do it, and finally and most important, the fun games? My beloved DS of course.
With this, i wanna say that i'm a person who like specific devices for specific tasks, and while i'm not against of an all-in-one function packed in just one handheld gadget such as the brand new announced "DS 2" (or 3 in this case), isn't all a bad idea at all and even sounds attractive, but I seriously doubt that the new upgrades will be super awesome and effective like the separate devices on their own.
Now,I'm just speculating about this, but i'll wait to see the quality of the news functions (specially the pictures taken with the camera) of the new handheld. If my suspicious thoughts here become rights, then i don't see any reasons for me to get the new DS.
Of course, i truly believe there will be tons of ppl who gonna get it and won't really care about the points that i mentioned above. Some will find out that is really cool carrying all the stuff in one pack and feel very comfy with it, I think it'll be okay for them.
But as for me, I'm a pretty picky and demanding guy when it comes to the quality of the functions. Lack of quality in any of the aspects that I wrote, i just can't accept and take it. I don't care if carry on with the devices separately but at least, i won't be never disappointed of their performances.
If i'm gonna give my money (and a good amount) for some gadget , i demand good quality doing what they were made for. So that's why I like devices working alone.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 2:49PM Ninbrendo said
Wow! I can take pictures, listen to music, play NSMB, all while cleaning my oven! No thanks.
If a redesign is in order I'd much rather a slimmer, lighter Lite.
If a redesign is in order I'd much rather a slimmer, lighter Lite.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 3:38PM (Unverified) said
I don't really care about extras like a camera and/or music playing abilities for a gaming system. I would prefer that Nintendo leave all of that stuff off, and just make the actual gaming experience more powerful.
For me, it is all about the games and nothing else.
For me, it is all about the games and nothing else.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 4:46PM LocalToast said
I will admit, I think a lot of you are freaking out about a roughly translated newspaper clipping. A *lot*.
Still, a camera and music functionality is kinda cool. Nobody's forcing you to buy it, and your games won't suddenly become obsolete. Did I hear a bigger screen? I think the GBA had a bigger screen than the GBC, and nobody complained. I don't think Nintendo will screw up something they already nailed down.
If they can add WPA support to the DS, I will definitely buy one. That way I can finally have a secure network and enjoy my DS WiFi games. Sure, I can take pictures with my digital camera and listen to music on my iPod. But I can also take pictures and listen to music on my phone. And on my computer. Even on my 360. Multimedia is huge, and I can see why Nintendo wants to board the train.
You have to remember, this is coming from Japan. Yes, Japan. Japan is also the place where you buy things using your face, and your cell phone. Japan is all about innovative technology and integration. So I wouldn't be surprised if any country outside of Japan never got to see one of these systems localized for their region. It almost seems like a cultural thing to me.
But I adore Japan's technology and I love the DS, so I would definitely buy one, given I knew more about the system. Camera, music, DS-to-Wii connectivity, and bigger screens? Yes please, I'll take one.
Still, a camera and music functionality is kinda cool. Nobody's forcing you to buy it, and your games won't suddenly become obsolete. Did I hear a bigger screen? I think the GBA had a bigger screen than the GBC, and nobody complained. I don't think Nintendo will screw up something they already nailed down.
If they can add WPA support to the DS, I will definitely buy one. That way I can finally have a secure network and enjoy my DS WiFi games. Sure, I can take pictures with my digital camera and listen to music on my iPod. But I can also take pictures and listen to music on my phone. And on my computer. Even on my 360. Multimedia is huge, and I can see why Nintendo wants to board the train.
You have to remember, this is coming from Japan. Yes, Japan. Japan is also the place where you buy things using your face, and your cell phone. Japan is all about innovative technology and integration. So I wouldn't be surprised if any country outside of Japan never got to see one of these systems localized for their region. It almost seems like a cultural thing to me.
But I adore Japan's technology and I love the DS, so I would definitely buy one, given I knew more about the system. Camera, music, DS-to-Wii connectivity, and bigger screens? Yes please, I'll take one.
Posted: Sep 30th 2008 2:58AM (Unverified) said
wow this was the first comment worth reading.
no need to rant about the new product (if it is real), there is one simple solution, if it ain't worth your money.. don't buy it.
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no need to rant about the new product (if it is real), there is one simple solution, if it ain't worth your money.. don't buy it.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 4:58PM TJF588 said
Give me a SONG SUMMONER port and iTunes file types compatability, and I'd be fine, I guess.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 5:17PM (Unverified) said
Nintendo's thought process behind DS:
DS = Win
iPhone = Win
DS + iPhone = Win Win?
I think so; i dont need a camera or music, but i dont mind having them.
DS = Win
iPhone = Win
DS + iPhone = Win Win?
I think so; i dont need a camera or music, but i dont mind having them.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 5:30PM (Unverified) said
Next features:
- Faster cpu
- Camera
- MP3 player
- Accelerometer
- Vibrator
- Build-in Win & Mac remote desktop.
These things, and I couldn't be happier.
- Faster cpu
- Camera
- MP3 player
- Accelerometer
- Vibrator
- Build-in Win & Mac remote desktop.
These things, and I couldn't be happier.
Posted: Oct 1st 2008 12:00PM (Unverified) said
Camera and music playing, to me, implies a change of heart re: storing stuff on the DS. Could it be more homebrew-friendly, perhaps?
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 6:17PM (Unverified) said
What I'd like on a redesign? [and that's if it is just a redesign and not a new system altogether]
- a slimmer design
- WPA support
- touch screen like the one on the iphone
- I guess the sd slot is kinda nice too...
- a slimmer design
- WPA support
- touch screen like the one on the iphone
- I guess the sd slot is kinda nice too...
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 7:00PM (Unverified) said
I don't know why anyone would want to be able to take pictures with their DS. I can see the music playback being viable for those that don't already have an MP3 player but other then that I don't see much use for that as well. I think what they need to do is get rid of the irritating gap between the screens and make the screens wider and taller. If they could figure out a way to eliminate the gap in the middle of the two screens I would be happy.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 7:02PM Risingsun said
Well many of us just wanted a thinner DS with larger screens, thats what a lot of the old rumors were anyway. So if this new Media DS still does that plus all of it new features it seems like a worthy upgrade. Better than a gameboy micro at least.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 7:08PM (Unverified) said
If this means the DS will *FINALLY* support WPA -- something it should have done AT LAUNCH, ffs -- I might actually trade in my existing system.
I'm not interested in any of the other features even if this isn't just a photoshop/rumor being reported as fact (it's happened before).
I'm not interested in any of the other features even if this isn't just a photoshop/rumor being reported as fact (it's happened before).
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 8:25PM (Unverified) said
I'd like to see a new DS with all the hardware of a Wiimote: more RAM, accelerometers, and a rumble function. I want Bluetooth that works with existing Bluetooth stereo headsets, like the iPhone's. Replace the existing power connector with a USB port and give me an SD slot. I want a video-out port that works with video goggles (http://www.thinkgeek.com/computing/mp3/98d3/); I also want dual 3D graphics hardware to support true stereoscopic output to those goggles. Finally, I want the firmware to include full PDA functionality, so I'll know to stop playing Ace Attorney in time to make it to court.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 8:38PM chispito said
I'll buck the trend here and say I actually think it sounds like a decent alternative to the Lite. As long as they keep the Lite around for the more budget-conscious, gadget-weary gamer, then I see no problem. The added camera has some interesting gameplay opportunities, especially if Nintendo gives us some kind of online photo communities.
What I'd really like is GPS, and a homebrew war-walking program to compliment it.
What I'd really like is GPS, and a homebrew war-walking program to compliment it.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 8:39PM chispito said
Most games, especially sidescrollers, compensate for the gap. If it were eliminated, they would all be screwed up.
See: Contra IV.
See: Contra IV.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 8:59PM (Unverified) said
I wouldn't diss the camera equipped DS this early. If I know Nintendo, the camera will have a huge role in gameplay. One example of camera integrated gameplay is that old Nokia cellphone game "mosquito." That was quite a fun game and all it needed was one button and a camera. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ1-M4TEorM
Now imagine the mosquitoes replaced with outerspace zombies from hell...
Nintendo will exploit the camera the way they did the touch screen. That's a huge certainty.
Camera and touch-screen? This should be good.
If the camera's just there for taking pictures though, that would really suck.
Now imagine the mosquitoes replaced with outerspace zombies from hell...
Nintendo will exploit the camera the way they did the touch screen. That's a huge certainty.
Camera and touch-screen? This should be good.
If the camera's just there for taking pictures though, that would really suck.
Posted: Sep 29th 2008 12:48AM LocalToast said
Have you used a Gameboy Camera before?
I bought one used (including box, manual) for $4 last year, and I read through the entire manual and I still couldn't figure out all of the features. It's such a vast piece of hardware, and there's a TON of stuff you can do with it.
It's got games, an animator, music sequencer, and there's a bunch of paint/stamp options, too. It's also got some panoramic options and of course, printing.
So considering the not-so-innovative hardware of the Gameboy, and yet the depth of the Gameboy Camera, I'm hopeful that Nintendo will be able to pull something off WAY better with the DS's features.
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I bought one used (including box, manual) for $4 last year, and I read through the entire manual and I still couldn't figure out all of the features. It's such a vast piece of hardware, and there's a TON of stuff you can do with it.
It's got games, an animator, music sequencer, and there's a bunch of paint/stamp options, too. It's also got some panoramic options and of course, printing.
So considering the not-so-innovative hardware of the Gameboy, and yet the depth of the Gameboy Camera, I'm hopeful that Nintendo will be able to pull something off WAY better with the DS's features.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 9:05PM (Unverified) said
With the addition of the camera, Nintendo has given Shigeru Miyamoto another toy to play with.
Doesn't sound so bad huh?
Doesn't sound so bad huh?
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 10:42PM RupeeClock said
I'm becoming very wary of Nintendo trying to innovate new methods of gameplay.
Because of it, the DS had far too many touch-only games at launch, and the Wii has been plagued with sub-par motion controls, with few games offering traditional controls.
If the camera thing is real, we may be facing an onslaught of portable eye toy minigames, do not want.
Because of it, the DS had far too many touch-only games at launch, and the Wii has been plagued with sub-par motion controls, with few games offering traditional controls.
If the camera thing is real, we may be facing an onslaught of portable eye toy minigames, do not want.
Posted: Sep 28th 2008 10:45PM (Unverified) said
It NEEDS to NOT have any more design flaws (cracked hinge, I'm looking at you).
The DS Lite (some say the phat too) has been plagued by cracked hinges. On Google, ds lite crack hinge returns 22,000 results.
Nintendo used to make very durable hardware, they need to return to their roots and make something that will not break under normal use.
The next DS Lite should not be built like something disposable, if I pay over $100 for a piece of electronics, I expect it to last longer than a year or two.
Peace.
The DS Lite (some say the phat too) has been plagued by cracked hinges. On Google, ds lite crack hinge returns 22,000 results.
Nintendo used to make very durable hardware, they need to return to their roots and make something that will not break under normal use.
The next DS Lite should not be built like something disposable, if I pay over $100 for a piece of electronics, I expect it to last longer than a year or two.
Peace.
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